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The 5-limit parent comma for the '''diaschismic family''' is 2048/2025, the [[diaschisma]]. The period is half an octave, and the generator is a fifth. Three periods gives 1800 cents, and decreasing this by two fifths gives the major third. [[34edo]] is a good tuning choice, with [[46edo]], [[56edo]], [[58edo]], or [[80edo]] being other possibilities. Both [[12edo]] and [[22edo]] support it, and retuning them to a MOS of diaschismic gives two scale possibilities.
The 5-limit parent comma for the '''diaschismic family''' is 2048/2025, the [[diaschisma]]. The period is half an octave, and the generator is a fifth. Three periods gives 1800 cents, and decreasing this by two fifths gives the major third. [[34edo]] is a good tuning choice, with [[46edo]], [[56edo]], [[58edo]], or [[80edo]] being other possibilities. Both [[12edo]] and [[22edo]] support it, and retuning them to a MOS of diaschismic gives two scale possibilities.


== Srutal a.k.a. diaschismic ==
== Diaschismic ==
{{Main| Diaschismic }}
{{Main| Diaschismic }}
This temperament is also known as '''srutal''' in the 5-limit, but that name more strictly speaking refers to the [[Diaschismic family#Srutal|34d&46 extension]] to the [[7-limit]] that adds [[4375/4374]] to the comma list.


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
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[[Badness]]: 0.019915
[[Badness]]: 0.019915
=== Overview to extensions ===
==== 7-limit extensions ====
To get the 7-limit extensions, we add another comma:
* Pajara derives from [[64/63]] and is a popular and well-known choice.
* Diaschismic adds [[126/125]], the starling comma, to obtain 7-limit harmony by more complex methods, but with greater accuracy.
* Srutal adds [[4375/4374]], the ragisma. It does no significant tuning damage, so we keep the 5-limit label srutal.
* Keen adds [[875/864]].
* Bidia adds [[3136/3125]], the hemimean comma.
* Echidna adds [[1728/1715]], the orwellisma.
* Shrutar adds [[245/243]], the sensamagic comma.
Pajara, diaschismic, srutal and keen keep the same half-octave period and fifth generator, but shrutar has a generator of a quarter-tone (which can be taken as [[36/35]], the septimal quarter-tone) and echidna has a generator of 9/7. Bidia has a quarter-octave period and a fifth generator.
==== Subgroup extensions ====
Since the diaschisma factors into ([[256/255]])<sup>2</sup>([[289/288]]) in the 17-limit, it extends naturally to the 2.3.5.17 subgroup, resulting in ''srutal archagall''.


=== Srutal archagall ===
=== Srutal archagall ===
{{See also | Fiventeen }}
{{See also | Fiventeen }}


The [[S-expression]]-based comma list of this temperament is {[[256/255|S16]], [[289/288|S17]]}.  
Since the diaschisma factors into ([[256/255]])<sup>2</sup>([[289/288]]) in the 17-limit, it extends naturally to the 2.3.5.17 subgroup, resulting in ''srutal archagall''. The [[S-expression]]-based comma list of this temperament is {[[256/255|S16]], [[289/288|S17]]}.  


Subgroup: 2.3.5.17
Subgroup: 2.3.5.17
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Badness: 0.00575
Badness: 0.00575
=== Overview to extensions ===
To get the 7-limit extensions, we add another comma:
* Pajara derives from [[64/63]] and is a popular and well-known choice.
* Diaschismic adds [[126/125]], the starling comma, to obtain 7-limit harmony by more complex methods, but with greater accuracy.
* Srutal adds [[4375/4374]], the ragisma. It does no significant tuning damage, so we keep the 5-limit label srutal.
* Keen adds [[875/864]].
* Bidia adds [[3136/3125]], the hemimean comma.
* Echidna adds [[1728/1715]], the orwellisma.
* Shrutar adds [[245/243]], the sensamagic comma.
Pajara, diaschismic, srutal and keen keep the same half-octave period and fifth generator, but shrutar has a generator of a quarter-tone (which can be taken as [[36/35]], the septimal quarter-tone) and echidna has a generator of 9/7. Bidia has a quarter-octave period and a fifth generator.


== Srutal ==
== Srutal ==