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=== Octave stretch ===
=== Octave stretch ===
42edo’s poor 3rd and 5th harmonics can be greatly improved through [[octave stretching]] or [[octave shrinking]]. Both approaches work about equally well but in opposite directions, giving two quite different flavors of tuning to play with.
42edo’s inaccurate 3rd and 5th harmonics can be greatly improved through [[octave stretching]] or [[octave shrinking]]. Both approaches work about equally well but in opposite directions, giving two quite different flavors of tuning to play with.  


Stretched versions of 42edo include:
The following is a table comparing stretched and shrunk tunings of 42edo:
* [[Ed257/128#42ed257/128|42ed257/128]] (~41.77edo, improves harmonics 3 & 5 at the expense of harmonic 11)
* [[zpi|189zpi]] (~41.83edo) (~41.77edo, improves harmonics 3 & 5 at the expense of harmonics 7 & 11)


Compressed versions of 42edo include:
'''Key'''
* [[zpi|191zpi]] (~42.19edo, improves harmonics 3, 5 & 13 at the expense of harmonic 7)
*“Great” = <20% relative error
* [[Ed255/128#42ed255/128|42ed255/128]] (~42.24edo, improves harmonics 3, 5 & 13 at the expense of harmonic 7)
*“Good” = 20 to 30% relative error
 
*“Poor” = >30% relative error
{| class="wikitable sortable mw-collapsible"
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"
|+
|+
!Relative error of
!Tuning
!42ed257/128
![[Ed257/128#42ed257/128|42ed257/128]] <br>(~41.77edo)
!42edo
![[zpi|189zpi]] <br>(~41.83edo)
!42ed255/128
![[42edo]]
![[zpi|191zpi]] <br>(~42.19edo)
![[Ed255/128#42ed255/128|42ed255/128]] <br>(~42.24edo)
|-
|-
!2nd harmonic
!Summary
!great: 3, 5 <br>good: 2, 7 <br>poor: 11, 13
!great: 2, 5 <br>good: 3, 11, 13 <br>poor: 7
!great: 2, 7 <br>good: 11 <br>poor: 3, 5, 13
!great: 2, 3, 5, 11, 13 <br>good: - <br>poor: 7
!great: 3, 5, 11 <br>good: 2 <br>poor: 7, 13
|-
|2/1 relative error
|23.5%
|23.5%
|17.2%
|0.0%
|0.0%
|18.8%
|23.9%
|23.9%
|-
|-
!3rd harmonic
|3/1 rel. err.
|19.6%
|19.6%
|29.6%
|43.2%
|43.2%
|13.4%
|5.4%
|5.4%
|-
|-
!5th harmonic
|5/1 rel. err.
|2.4%
| 2.4%
|12.2%
|47.9%
|47.9%
| 4.3%
|7.5%
|7.5%
|-
|-
!7th harmonic
| 7/1 rel. err.
|24.9%
|24.9%
|42.6%
|9.1%
|9.1%
| 43.6%
|42.2%
|42.2%
|-
|-
!11th harmonic
|11/1 rel. err.
|48.3%
| 48.3%
|29.6%
|29.8%
| 29.6%
|5.5%
|12.1%
|12.1%
|-
|-
!13th harmonic
| 13/1 rel. err.
|45.1%
|45.1%
|21.7%
|41.8%
|41.8%
|11.3%
|30.1%
|30.1%
|}
|}


== Intervals ==
 
==Intervals==


{| class="wikitable center-all right-2 left-4"
{| class="wikitable center-all right-2 left-4"
|-
|-
! #
!#
! Cents
!Cents
! colspan="3" |[[Ups and Downs Notation]]
! colspan="3" |[[Ups and Downs Notation]]
|-
|-
| 0
|0
| 0.000
| 0.000
| P1
|P1
| perfect unison
|perfect unison
| D
| D
|-
|-
| 1
|1
| 28.571
|28.571
| ^1, m2
|^1, m2
| up unison, minor 2nd
| up unison, minor 2nd
| ^D, Eb
|^D, Eb
|-
|-
| 2
|2
| 57.143
|57.143
| ^^1, ^m2
|^^1, ^m2
| dup 1sn, upminor 2nd
|dup 1sn, upminor 2nd
| ^^D, ^Eb
| ^^D, ^Eb
|-
|-
| 3
|3
| 85.714
|85.714
| ^^m2
|^^m2
| dupminor 2nd
|dupminor 2nd
| ^^Eb
|^^Eb
|-
|-
| 4
| 4
| 114.286
|114.286
| ^<sup>3</sup>m
|^<sup>3</sup>m
| trupminor 2nd
|trupminor 2nd
| ^<sup>3</sup>Eb
|^<sup>3</sup>Eb
|-
|-
| 5
|5
| 143.857
|143.857
| v<sup>3</sup>M
|v<sup>3</sup>M
| trudmajor 2nd
|trudmajor 2nd
| v<sup>3</sup>E
|v<sup>3</sup>E
|-
|-
| 6
|6
| 171.429
|171.429
| vvM2
|vvM2
| dudmajor 2nd
| dudmajor 2nd
| vvE
|vvE
|-
|-
| 7
|7
| 200.000
|200.000
| vM2
|vM2
| downmajor 2nd
|downmajor 2nd
| vE
|vE
|-
|-
| 8
| 8
| 228.571
|228.571
| M2
|M2
| major 2nd
|major 2nd
| E
| E
|-
|-
| 9
|9
| 257.143
|257.143
| m3
|m3
| minor 3rd
|minor 3rd
| F
|F
|-
|-
| 10
|10
| 285.714
| 285.714
| ^m3
|^m3
| upminor 3rd
| upminor 3rd
| ^F
|^F
|-
|-
| 11
|11
| 314.286
|314.286
| ^^m3
|^^m3
| dupminor 3rd
|dupminor 3rd
| ^^F
|^^F
|-
|-
| 12
|12
| 342.857
|342.857
| ^<sup>3</sup>m3
|^<sup>3</sup>m3
| trupminor 3rd
| trupminor 3rd
| ^<sup>3</sup>F
|^<sup>3</sup>F
|-
|-
| 13
|13
| 371.429
|371.429
| v<sup>3</sup>M3
|v<sup>3</sup>M3
| trudmajor 3rd
|trudmajor 3rd
| v<sup>3</sup>F#
|v<sup>3</sup>F#
|-
|-
| 14
|14
| 400.000
|400.000
| vvM3
|vvM3
| dudmajor 3rd
|dudmajor 3rd
| vvF#
|vvF#
|-
|-
| 15
|15
| 428.571
|428.571
| vM3
|vM3
| downmajor 3rd
|downmajor 3rd
| vF#
| vF#
|-
|-
| 16
|16
| 457.143
| 457.143
| M3, v4
|M3, v4
| major 3rd, down 4th
|major 3rd, down 4th
| F#, vG
|F#, vG
|-
|-
| 17
| 17
| 485.714
|485.714
| P4
|P4
| perfect 4th
|perfect 4th
| G
|G
|-
|-
| 18
|18
| 514.286
| 514.286
| ^4
|^4
| up 4th
|up 4th
| ^G
|^G
|-
|-
| 19
|19
| 543.857
|543.857
| ^^4
| ^^4
| dup 4th
|dup 4th
| ^^G
|^^G
|-
|-
| 20
|20
| 571.429
|571.429
| ^<sup>3</sup>4, ^^d5
|^<sup>3</sup>4, ^^d5
| trup 4th, dupdim 5th
| trup 4th, dupdim 5th
| ^<sup>3</sup>G, ^^Ab
| ^<sup>3</sup>G, ^^Ab
|-
|-
| 21
|21
| 600.000
|600.000
| v<sup>3</sup>A4, ^<sup>3</sup>d5
|v<sup>3</sup>A4, ^<sup>3</sup>d5
| trudaug 4th, trupdim 5th
|trudaug 4th, trupdim 5th
| v<sup>3</sup>G#, ^<sup>3</sup>Ab
|v<sup>3</sup>G#, ^<sup>3</sup>Ab
|-
|-
| 22
|22
| 628.571
|628.571
| vvA4, v<sup>3</sup>5
|vvA4, v<sup>3</sup>5
| dudaug 4th, trud 5th
|dudaug 4th, trud 5th
| vvG#, v<sup>3</sup>A
|vvG#, v<sup>3</sup>A
|-
|-
| 23
|23
| 657.143
|657.143
| vv5
|vv5
| dud 5th
|dud 5th
| vvA
|vvA
|-
|-
| 24
|24
| 685.714
| 685.714
| v5
|v5
| down 5th
|down 5th
| vA
| vA
|-
|-
| 25
|25
| 714.286
|714.286
| P5
|P5
| perfect 5th
|perfect 5th
| A
|A
|-
|-
| 26
|26
| 742.857
|742.857
| ^5, m6
|^5, m6
| up 5th, minor 6th
|up 5th, minor 6th
| ^A, Bb
|^A, Bb
|-
|-
| 27
|27
| 771.429
|771.429
| ^m6
|^m6
| upminor 6th
|upminor 6th
| ^Bb
|^Bb
|-
|-
| 28
|28
| 800.000
|800.000
| ^^m6
|^^m6
| dupminor 6th
|dupminor 6th
| ^^Bb
|^^Bb
|-
|-
| 29
|29
| 828.571
|828.571
| ^<sup>3</sup>m6
|^<sup>3</sup>m6
| trupminor 6th
| trupminor 6th
| ^<sup>3</sup>Bb
| ^<sup>3</sup>Bb
|-
|-
| 30
|30
| 857.143
|857.143
| v<sup>3</sup>M6
|v<sup>3</sup>M6
| trudmajor 6th
|trudmajor 6th
| v<sup>3</sup>B
|v<sup>3</sup>B
|-
|-
| 31
| 31
| 885.714
|885.714
| vvM6
|vvM6
| dudmajor 6th
|dudmajor 6th
| vvB
|vvB
|-
|-
| 32
|32
| 914.286
|914.286
| vM6
|vM6
| downmajor 6th
|downmajor 6th
| vB
|vB
|-
|-
| 33
|33
| 942.857
|942.857
| M6
|M6
| major 6th
|major 6th
| B
|B
|-
|-
| 34
| 34
| 971.429
|971.429
| m7
|m7
| minor 7th
|minor 7th
| C
|C
|-
|-
| 35
|35
| 1000.000
|1000.000
| ^m7
|^m7
| upminor 7th
|upminor 7th
| ^C
|^C
|-
|-
| 36
|36
| 1028.571
|1028.571
| ^^m7
|^^m7
| dupminor 7th
| dupminor 7th
| ^^C
|^^C
|-
|-
| 37
|37
| 1057.143
|1057.143
| ^<sup>3</sup>m7
|^<sup>3</sup>m7
| trupminor 7th
|trupminor 7th
| ^<sup>3</sup>C
|^<sup>3</sup>C
|-
|-
| 38
|38
| 1085.714
|1085.714
| v<sup>3</sup>M7
|v<sup>3</sup>M7
| trudmajor 7th
|trudmajor 7th
| v<sup>3</sup>C#
| v<sup>3</sup>C#
|-
|-
| 39
|39
| 1114.286
| 1114.286
| vvM7
|vvM7
| dudmajor 7th
|dudmajor 7th
| vvC#
| vvC#
|-
|-
| 40
|40
| 1142.857
|1142.857
| vM7
|vM7
| downmajor 7th
|downmajor 7th
| vC#
|vC#
|-
|-
| 41
|41
| 1171.429
| 1171.429
| M7, v8
|M7, v8
| major 7th, down 8ve
|major 7th, down 8ve
| C#, vD
|C#, vD
|-
|-
| 42
|42
| 1200.000
| 1200.000
| P8
|P8
| perfect 8ve
| perfect 8ve
| D
|D
|}
|}


Chords can be named using ups and downs as C upminor, D downmajor seven, etc. See [[Ups and Downs Notation #Chords and Chord Progressions]].
Chords can be named using ups and downs as C upminor, D downmajor seven, etc. See [[Ups and Downs Notation #Chords and Chord Progressions]].


== Notation ==
==Notation==
Assuming the natural notes form a chain of fifths, the major 2nd is 8 edosteps and the minor 2nd is only one. The naturals create a 5edo-like scale, with two of the notes inflected by a comma-sized edostep:
Assuming the natural notes form a chain of fifths, the major 2nd is 8 edosteps and the minor 2nd is only one. The naturals create a 5edo-like scale, with two of the notes inflected by a comma-sized edostep:


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D# is next to E. The notation requires triple ups and downs, even more if chords are to be spelled correctly. For example, a 1/1 - 5/4 - 3/2 - 9/5 chord with a root on the key or fret midway between G and A would be written either as v<sup>3</sup>G# - v<sup>5</sup>B# - v<sup>3</sup>D# - vF# or as ^<sup>3</sup>Ab - ^C - ^<sup>3</sup>Eb - ^<sup>5</sup>Gb. This is a dud dup-seven chord, written either as v<sup>3</sup>G#vv,^^7 or as ^<sup>3</sup>Abvv,^^7.
D# is next to E. The notation requires triple ups and downs, even more if chords are to be spelled correctly. For example, a 1/1 - 5/4 - 3/2 - 9/5 chord with a root on the key or fret midway between G and A would be written either as v<sup>3</sup>G# - v<sup>5</sup>B# - v<sup>3</sup>D# - vF# or as ^<sup>3</sup>Ab - ^C - ^<sup>3</sup>Eb - ^<sup>5</sup>Gb. This is a dud dup-seven chord, written either as v<sup>3</sup>G#vv,^^7 or as ^<sup>3</sup>Abvv,^^7.


== Instruments ==
==Instruments==
; Lumatone
;Lumatone


See [[Lumatone mapping for 42edo]]
See [[Lumatone mapping for 42edo]]


== Music ==
==Music==
* ''[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ljaSpsQP2qc Improvisation in 42edo]'' - composed and played by [[Bryan Deister]] (May 2023), transcribed by [[Stephen Weigel]] (Sept 2024)
*''[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ljaSpsQP2qc Improvisation in 42edo]'' - composed and played by [[Bryan Deister]] (May 2023), transcribed by [[Stephen Weigel]] (Sept 2024)
* ''[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ORy7nv6SnN8 Glory of Them]'' - [[Mundoworld]] (July 2024)
*''[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ORy7nv6SnN8 Glory of Them]'' - [[Mundoworld]] (July 2024)


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[[Category:Augene]]
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[[Category:Todo:add rank 2 temperaments table]]

Revision as of 02:18, 6 December 2024

← 41edo 42edo 43edo →
Prime factorization 2 × 3 × 7
Step size 28.5714 ¢ 
Fifth 25\42 (714.286 ¢)
Semitones (A1:m2) 7:1 (200 ¢ : 28.57 ¢)
Dual sharp fifth 25\42 (714.286 ¢)
Dual flat fifth 24\42 (685.714 ¢) (→ 4\7)
Dual major 2nd 7\42 (200 ¢) (→ 1\6)
Consistency limit 7
Distinct consistency limit 7

Template:EDO intro

Theory

42edo has a patent val fifth (the step of which is not from 7edo, this being a first for edos of the form 7n) and a third both over 12 cents sharp, using the same 400-cent interval to represent 5/4 as does 12edo, which means it tempers out 128/125. In the 7-limit, it tempers out 64/63 and 126/125, making it a tuning supporting the augene temperament.

42edo is on the optimal ET sequence of the eugene, joan, lemba, neutron, qeema, seville, sevond, skateboard, tritikleismic and vines temperaments.

While not an accurate tuning on the full 7-limit, 42edo does an excellent job on the 2.9.15.7.33.39 2*42 subgroup, having the same tuning on it as does 84edo. On this subgroup 42 has the same commas as 84.

42edo is a diatonic edo because its 5th falls between 4\7 = 686¢ and 3\5 = 720¢. 42edo is one of the most difficult diatonic edos to notate, because no other diatonic edo's 5th is as sharp (see 47edo for the opposite extreme).

Odd harmonics

Approximation of odd harmonics in 42edo
Harmonic 3 5 7 9 11 13 15 17 19 21 23
Error Absolute (¢) +12.3 +13.7 +2.6 -3.9 -8.5 -12.0 -2.6 +9.3 -11.8 -13.6 +0.3
Relative (%) +43.2 +47.9 +9.1 -13.7 -29.6 -41.8 -8.9 +32.7 -41.3 -47.7 +1.0
Steps
(reduced)
67
(25)
98
(14)
118
(34)
133
(7)
145
(19)
155
(29)
164
(38)
172
(4)
178
(10)
184
(16)
190
(22)

Subsets and supersets

Since 42 factors into 2 × 3 × 7, 42edo contains subset edos 2, 3, 6, 7, 14, and 21.

Octave stretch

42edo’s inaccurate 3rd and 5th harmonics can be greatly improved through octave stretching or octave shrinking. Both approaches work about equally well but in opposite directions, giving two quite different flavors of tuning to play with.

The following is a table comparing stretched and shrunk tunings of 42edo:

Key

  • “Great” = <20% relative error
  • “Good” = 20 to 30% relative error
  • “Poor” = >30% relative error
Tuning 42ed257/128
(~41.77edo)
189zpi
(~41.83edo)
42edo 191zpi
(~42.19edo)
42ed255/128
(~42.24edo)
Summary great: 3, 5
good: 2, 7
poor: 11, 13
great: 2, 5
good: 3, 11, 13
poor: 7
great: 2, 7
good: 11
poor: 3, 5, 13
great: 2, 3, 5, 11, 13
good: -
poor: 7
great: 3, 5, 11
good: 2
poor: 7, 13
2/1 relative error 23.5% 17.2% 0.0% 18.8% 23.9%
3/1 rel. err. 19.6% 29.6% 43.2% 13.4% 5.4%
5/1 rel. err. 2.4% 12.2% 47.9% 4.3% 7.5%
7/1 rel. err. 24.9% 42.6% 9.1% 43.6% 42.2%
11/1 rel. err. 48.3% 29.8% 29.6% 5.5% 12.1%
13/1 rel. err. 45.1% 21.7% 41.8% 11.3% 30.1%


Intervals

# Cents Ups and Downs Notation
0 0.000 P1 perfect unison D
1 28.571 ^1, m2 up unison, minor 2nd ^D, Eb
2 57.143 ^^1, ^m2 dup 1sn, upminor 2nd ^^D, ^Eb
3 85.714 ^^m2 dupminor 2nd ^^Eb
4 114.286 ^3m trupminor 2nd ^3Eb
5 143.857 v3M trudmajor 2nd v3E
6 171.429 vvM2 dudmajor 2nd vvE
7 200.000 vM2 downmajor 2nd vE
8 228.571 M2 major 2nd E
9 257.143 m3 minor 3rd F
10 285.714 ^m3 upminor 3rd ^F
11 314.286 ^^m3 dupminor 3rd ^^F
12 342.857 ^3m3 trupminor 3rd ^3F
13 371.429 v3M3 trudmajor 3rd v3F#
14 400.000 vvM3 dudmajor 3rd vvF#
15 428.571 vM3 downmajor 3rd vF#
16 457.143 M3, v4 major 3rd, down 4th F#, vG
17 485.714 P4 perfect 4th G
18 514.286 ^4 up 4th ^G
19 543.857 ^^4 dup 4th ^^G
20 571.429 ^34, ^^d5 trup 4th, dupdim 5th ^3G, ^^Ab
21 600.000 v3A4, ^3d5 trudaug 4th, trupdim 5th v3G#, ^3Ab
22 628.571 vvA4, v35 dudaug 4th, trud 5th vvG#, v3A
23 657.143 vv5 dud 5th vvA
24 685.714 v5 down 5th vA
25 714.286 P5 perfect 5th A
26 742.857 ^5, m6 up 5th, minor 6th ^A, Bb
27 771.429 ^m6 upminor 6th ^Bb
28 800.000 ^^m6 dupminor 6th ^^Bb
29 828.571 ^3m6 trupminor 6th ^3Bb
30 857.143 v3M6 trudmajor 6th v3B
31 885.714 vvM6 dudmajor 6th vvB
32 914.286 vM6 downmajor 6th vB
33 942.857 M6 major 6th B
34 971.429 m7 minor 7th C
35 1000.000 ^m7 upminor 7th ^C
36 1028.571 ^^m7 dupminor 7th ^^C
37 1057.143 ^3m7 trupminor 7th ^3C
38 1085.714 v3M7 trudmajor 7th v3C#
39 1114.286 vvM7 dudmajor 7th vvC#
40 1142.857 vM7 downmajor 7th vC#
41 1171.429 M7, v8 major 7th, down 8ve C#, vD
42 1200.000 P8 perfect 8ve D

Chords can be named using ups and downs as C upminor, D downmajor seven, etc. See Ups and Downs Notation #Chords and Chord Progressions.

Notation

Assuming the natural notes form a chain of fifths, the major 2nd is 8 edosteps and the minor 2nd is only one. The naturals create a 5edo-like scale, with two of the notes inflected by a comma-sized edostep:

D * * * * * * * * E F * * * * * * * * G * * * * * * * * A * * * * * * * * B C * * * * * * * * D

D# is next to E. The notation requires triple ups and downs, even more if chords are to be spelled correctly. For example, a 1/1 - 5/4 - 3/2 - 9/5 chord with a root on the key or fret midway between G and A would be written either as v3G# - v5B# - v3D# - vF# or as ^3Ab - ^C - ^3Eb - ^5Gb. This is a dud dup-seven chord, written either as v3G#vv,^^7 or as ^3Abvv,^^7.

Instruments

Lumatone

See Lumatone mapping for 42edo

Music