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'''8192/8019''', the '''Alpharabian inframinor second''', is the basic inframinor second in the 2.3.11 [[subgroup]]. It differs from [[4096/3993]], the Alpharabian paralimma, by [[243/242]], it differs from [[45/44]], the undecimal 1/5-tone, by the [[schisma]], and, it also differs from [[64/63]], the Archytas comma, by [[896/891]]. As suggested by its name, it is reached by subtracting a [[33/32]] quartertone from [[256/243]]. Conspicuously, this interval is almost exactly one third of a [[16/15]] diatonic semitone- a stack of three falling short of it by the [[triagnoshenisma]].
'''8192/8019''', the '''Alpharabian inframinor second''', is the basic inframinor second in the [[2.3.11 subgroup]]. It differs from [[4096/3993]], the Alpharabian paralimma, by [[243/242]]; from [[45/44]], the undecimal 1/5-tone or cake comma, by the [[schisma]] 3<sup>8</sup>⋅5/2<sup>15</sup>; from [[128/125]], the lesser diesis, by [[8019/8000]]; and from [[64/63]], Archytas' comma, by [[896/891]]. It is reached by subtracting a [[33/32]] quartertone from [[256/243]], the pythagorean limma. Interestingly, 8192/8019 is almost exactly one third of a [[16/15]] diatonic semitone &mdash; a stack of three falling short of it by the [[triagnoshenisma]] (11<sup>3</sup>/5 schismina).


When treated as a comma to be tempered, and thus tempered out, for instance, in undecimal superpyth temperament, the result is the obliteration of any distinction between the diatonic intervals of [[Pythagorean tuning]] and nearby paradiatonic intervals- most notably, it obliterates the distinction between 16/11 and 729/512, and this, combined with the fact that this interval is an inframinor second when not tempered, leads to the comma name '''dimifondisma''', with "dimi" from "diminished", "f" from "fifth" and "ond" from "second".
When treated as a comma to be tempered out (for instance, in undecimal superpyth temperament), the result is the obliteration of any distinction between the diatonic intervals of [[Pythagorean tuning]] and nearby [[Alpharabian_tuning|paradiatonic]] intervals. Most notably, [[16/11]] and [[729/512]] are equated, inspiring the comma name '''dimifondisma''' from ''<u>dimi</u>nished'' + ''<u>f</u>&zwnj;ifth'' + ''sec<u>ond</u>'' (as the interval is an inframinor second before tempering).


== See also ==
== See also ==
* [[8019/4096]] – its [[octave complement]]
* [[8019/4096]] – its [[octave complement]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]

Revision as of 20:38, 23 November 2024

Interval information
Ratio 8192/8019
Factorization 213 × 3-6 × 11-1
Monzo [13 -6 0 0 -1
Size in cents 36.95205¢
Name Alpharabian inframinor second
dimifondisma
Color name s1u2, salu 2nd, Salu comma
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{m2}_{11} }[/math]
Special properties reduced,
reduced subharmonic
Tenney height (log2 nd) 25.9692
Weil height (log2 max(n, d)) 26
Wilson height (sopfr(nd)) 55
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8192/8019, the Alpharabian inframinor second, is the basic inframinor second in the 2.3.11 subgroup. It differs from 4096/3993, the Alpharabian paralimma, by 243/242; from 45/44, the undecimal 1/5-tone or cake comma, by the schisma 38⋅5/215; from 128/125, the lesser diesis, by 8019/8000; and from 64/63, Archytas' comma, by 896/891. It is reached by subtracting a 33/32 quartertone from 256/243, the pythagorean limma. Interestingly, 8192/8019 is almost exactly one third of a 16/15 diatonic semitone — a stack of three falling short of it by the triagnoshenisma (113/5 schismina).

When treated as a comma to be tempered out (for instance, in undecimal superpyth temperament), the result is the obliteration of any distinction between the diatonic intervals of Pythagorean tuning and nearby paradiatonic intervals. Most notably, 16/11 and 729/512 are equated, inspiring the comma name dimifondisma from diminished + f‌ifth + second (as the interval is an inframinor second before tempering).

See also