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Being a zeta integral tuning, the no-11's 13-limit is represented relatively well and consistently. Practically 19edo can be used ''adaptively'' on instruments which allow you to bend notes up: by different amounts, the 3rd, 5th, 7th, and 13th harmonics are all tuned flat. This is in contrast to 12edo, where this is not possible since the 5 and 7 are not only much farther from just than they are in 19, but fairly sharp already. 19edo's [[negri]], [[sensi]] and [[semaphore]] scales have many 13-limit chords. (You can think of the sensi[8] [[3L 5s]] mos scale as 19edo's answer to the diminished scale. Both are made of two diminished seventh chords, but sensi[8] gives you additional ratios of 7 and 13.)

Another option would be to employ octave stretching; the closest [[the Riemann zeta function and tuning #Optimal octave stretch|local zeta peak]] to 19 occurs at 18.9481, which makes the octaves 1203.29 cents, and a step size of between 63.2 and 63.4 cents would be preferable in theory. Pianos are frequently tuned with stretched octaves anyway due to the slight inharmonicity inherent in their strings, which makes 19edo a promising option for pianos with split sharps. Octave stretching also means that an out-of-tune interval can be replaced with a compounded or inverted version of it which is near-just. For example, if we are using [[49ed6]] or [[30ed3]] (which tune 6:1 and 3:1 just and have octaves stretched by 2.8 and 4.57 cents, respectively), then we have near-just minor thirds (6:5), compound major thirds (as 5:1), and compound fifths (as 6:1), giving us versions of everything in the 5-limit tonality diamond. The compound major and minor triads (1:5:6 and 30:6:5) are near-just as well. A more extreme option would be [[11edf]], which has octaves stretched by 12.47 cents.

Another option would be to employ [[octave stretching]]; the closest [[the Riemann zeta function and tuning #Optimal octave stretch|local zeta peak]] to 19 occurs at 18.9481, which makes the octaves 1203.29 cents, and a step size of between 63.2 and 63.4 cents would be preferable in theory. Pianos are frequently tuned with stretched octaves anyway due to the slight inharmonicity inherent in their strings, which makes 19edo a promising option for pianos with split sharps. Octave stretching also means that an out-of-tune interval can be replaced with a compounded or inverted version of it which is near-just. For example, if we are using [[49ed6]] or [[30ed3]] (which tune 6:1 and 3:1 just and have octaves stretched by 2.8 and 4.57 cents, respectively), then we have near-just minor thirds (6:5), compound major thirds (as 5:1), and compound fifths (as 6:1), giving us versions of everything in the 5-limit tonality diamond. The compound major and minor triads (1:5:6 and 30:6:5) are near-just as well. A more extreme option would be [[11edf]], which has octaves stretched by 12.47 cents.

=== As a means of extending harmony ===

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 Being a zeta integral tuning, the no-11's 13-limit is represented relatively well and consistently. Practically 19edo can be used ''adaptively'' on instruments which allow you to bend notes up: by different amounts, the 3rd, 5th, 7th, and 13th harmonics are all tuned flat. This is in contrast to 12edo, where this is not possible since the 5 and 7 are not only much farther from just than they are in 19, but fairly sharp already. 19edo's [[negri]], [[sensi]] and [[semaphore]] scales have many 13-limit chords. (You can think of the sensi[8] [[3L 5s]] mos scale as 19edo's answer to the diminished scale. Both are made of two diminished seventh chords, but sensi[8] gives you additional ratios of 7 and 13.)
-Another option would be to employ octave stretching; the closest [[the Riemann zeta function and tuning #Optimal octave stretch|local zeta peak]] to 19 occurs at 18.9481, which makes the octaves 1203.29 cents, and a step size of between 63.2 and 63.4 cents would be preferable in theory. Pianos are frequently tuned with stretched octaves anyway due to the slight inharmonicity inherent in their strings, which makes 19edo a promising option for pianos with split sharps. Octave stretching also means that an out-of-tune interval can be replaced with a compounded or inverted version of it which is near-just. For example, if we are using [[49ed6]] or [[30ed3]] (which tune 6:1 and 3:1 just and have octaves stretched by 2.8 and 4.57 cents, respectively), then we have near-just minor thirds (6:5), compound major thirds (as 5:1), and compound fifths (as 6:1), giving us versions of everything in the 5-limit tonality diamond. The compound major and minor triads (1:5:6 and 30:6:5) are near-just as well. A more extreme option would be [[11edf]], which has octaves stretched by 12.47 cents.
+Another option would be to employ [[octave stretching]]; the closest [[the Riemann zeta function and tuning #Optimal octave stretch|local zeta peak]] to 19 occurs at 18.9481, which makes the octaves 1203.29 cents, and a step size of between 63.2 and 63.4 cents would be preferable in theory. Pianos are frequently tuned with stretched octaves anyway due to the slight inharmonicity inherent in their strings, which makes 19edo a promising option for pianos with split sharps. Octave stretching also means that an out-of-tune interval can be replaced with a compounded or inverted version of it which is near-just. For example, if we are using [[49ed6]] or [[30ed3]] (which tune 6:1 and 3:1 just and have octaves stretched by 2.8 and 4.57 cents, respectively), then we have near-just minor thirds (6:5), compound major thirds (as 5:1), and compound fifths (as 6:1), giving us versions of everything in the 5-limit tonality diamond. The compound major and minor triads (1:5:6 and 30:6:5) are near-just as well. A more extreme option would be [[11edf]], which has octaves stretched by 12.47 cents.
 === As a means of extending harmony ===