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(Note that while a lot of these have pages, not all of them do, although that doesn't mean they shouldn't.)
(Note that while a lot of these have pages, not all of them do, although that doesn't mean they shouldn't.)


== Sk<sup>2</sup> * S(k + 1) and S(k - 1) * Sk<sup>2</sup> (lopsided commas) ==
== Using S-monzos to understand the significance of S-expressions ==
This section deals with the forms of the main 5 infinite comma families as expressed in terms of nearby harmonics in the harmonic series and as related to square-particulars; note that this uses a mathematical notation of [a, b, c, ...]^[x, y, z, ...] to denote a^x * b^y * c^z * ...


If instead of working through things algebraically we look at square-particulars as describing a relationship between adjacent harmonics, we can use this to understand why certain simplifications and equivalences exist in a way that is equivalent to the sometimes harder-to-understand usual algebraic form:
If instead of working through things algebraically we look at square-particulars as describing a relationship between adjacent harmonics, we can use this to understand why certain simplifications and equivalences exist in a way that is equivalent to the sometimes harder-to-understand usual algebraic form:
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If we describe S''k'' as [''k''-1, ''k'', ''k''+1]^[-1, 2, -1] then if we write something like S''k''/S(''k'' + 2) (semiparticulars) in this form we get:
If we describe S''k'' as [''k''-1, ''k'', ''k''+1]^[-1, 2, -1] then if we write something like S''k''/S(''k'' + 2) (semiparticulars) in this form we get:


[''k''-1, ''k'', ''k''+1, ''k''+2, ''k''+3]^([-1, 2, -1, 0, 0] - [0, 0, -1, 2, -1] = [-1, 2, 0, -2, 1]) from which we can clearly see that we have two (''k''+2)/''k'''s making up a (''k''+3)/(''k''-1). An exercise to the reader is to go through the other forms discussed on this page to derive similar expressions. For now however, we want to focus on showing the equivalences implied by these two new "lopsided" forms:
[''k''-1, ''k'', ''k''+1, ''k''+2, ''k''+3]^([-1, 2, -1, 0, 0] - [0, 0, -1, 2, -1] = [-1, 2, 0, -2, 1]) from which we can clearly see that we have two (''k''+2)/''k'''s making up a (''k''+3)/(''k''-1). An exercise to the reader is to go through the other forms discussed on this page to derive similar expressions.  


S''k''<sup>2</sup> * S(''k''+1) = [''k''-1, ''k'', ''k''+1, ''k''+2]^(2[-1, 2, -1, 0] + [0, -1, 2, -1] = [-2, 4, -2, 0] + [0, -1, 2, -1] = [-2, 3, 0, -1]) implies:
S''k''<sup>2</sup> * S(''k''+1) = (''k''/(''k''-1))<sup>2</sup> / ((''k''+2)/''k'') through [-2, 3, 0, -1] = [-2, 2, 0, 0] - [0, -1, 0, 1].
S(''k''-1) * S''k''<sup>2</sup> = [''k''-2, ''k''-1, ''k'', ''k''+1]^([-1, 2, -1, 0] + 2[0, -1, 2, -1] = [-1, 2, -1, 0] + [0, -2, 4, -2] = [-1, 0, 3, -2]) implies:
S(''k''-1) * S''k''<sup>2</sup> = (''k''/(''k''+1))<sup>2</sup> / ((''k''-2)/''k'') through [-1, 0, 3, -2] = [0, 0, 2, -2] - [1, 0, -1, 0].
This technique will be called "'''S-monzos'''", as it is a form analogous to monzos that is uniquely suited for interpreting the relationships described by '''S-expressions'''.
A computer-generated table of both of these forms of commas is currently pending creation and will be added soon.
== Using S-monzos to understand the significance of S-expressions ==
This section deals with the forms of the main 5 infinite comma families as expressed in terms of nearby harmonics in the harmonic series and as related to square-particulars; note that this uses a mathematical notation of [a, b, c, ...]^[x, y, z, ...] to denote a^x * b^y * c^z * ...
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Sk = [k-1, k, k+1]^[-1, 2, -1]
Sk = [k-1, k, k+1]^[-1, 2, -1]
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-1    2    0  -2    1
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This technique will be called "'''S-monzos'''", as it is a form analogous to monzos that is uniquely suited for interpreting the relationships described by '''S-expressions'''.


The generalisation of this method using commutative group theory is discussed in [[square superparticular#Abstraction|the abstraction section of this page]].
The generalisation of this method using commutative group theory is discussed in [[square superparticular#Abstraction|the abstraction section of this page]].
== Sk<sup>2</sup> * S(k + 1) and S(k - 1) * Sk<sup>2</sup> (lopsided commas) ==
Using the clarity of S-monzos, we can show the interval relations implicated by these two new "lopsided" forms:
S''k''<sup>2</sup> * S(''k''+1) = [''k''-1, ''k'', ''k''+1, ''k''+2]^(2[-1, 2, -1, 0] + [0, -1, 2, -1] = [-2, 4, -2, 0] + [0, -1, 2, -1] = [-2, 3, 0, -1]) implies:
S''k''<sup>2</sup> * S(''k''+1) = (''k''/(''k''-1))<sup>2</sup> / ((''k''+2)/''k'') through [-2, 3, 0, -1] = [-2, 2, 0, 0] - [0, -1, 0, 1].
S(''k''-1) * S''k''<sup>2</sup> = [''k''-2, ''k''-1, ''k'', ''k''+1]^([-1, 2, -1, 0] + 2[0, -1, 2, -1] = [-1, 2, -1, 0] + [0, -2, 4, -2] = [-1, 0, 3, -2]) implies:
S(''k''-1) * S''k''<sup>2</sup> = (''k''/(''k''+1))<sup>2</sup> / ((''k''-2)/''k'') through [-1, 0, 3, -2] = [0, 0, 2, -2] - [1, 0, -1, 0].
A computer-generated table of both of these forms of commas is currently pending creation and will be added soon.


== Equivalent S-expressions ==
== Equivalent S-expressions ==