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The [[Delta-N|delta]] of a ratio is simply the numerator minus the denominator. All [[Superparticular ratio|superparticular]] ratios are delta-1. Both 5/3 and 7/5 are delta-2. | The [[Delta-N|delta]] of a ratio is simply the numerator minus the denominator. All [[Superparticular ratio|superparticular]] ratios are delta-1. Both 5/3 and 7/5 are delta-2. | ||
Every ratio occurs only once in the Stern-Brocot tree. Every ratio has two ancestors and two children. Both ancestors will have a smaller [[Limit|integer limit]], and one will always be smaller than the other. Thus there is a '''simpler''' ancestor and a '''more''' '''complex''' ancestor. | Every ratio occurs only once in the [[wikipedia:Stern–Brocot_tree|Stern-Brocot tree]]. Every ratio has two ancestors and two children. Both ancestors will have a smaller [[Limit|integer limit]], and one will always be smaller than the other. Thus there is a '''simpler''' ancestor and a '''more''' '''complex''' ancestor. | ||
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The correct factor to multiply by is always less than half of the delta, and is always coprime with the delta. | The correct factor to multiply by is always less than half of the delta, and is always coprime with the delta. | ||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable center-all" | ||
|+ | |+ | ||
!delta | !delta | ||
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* If the numerator mod 10 is 1 or 9, bump it. | * If the numerator mod 10 is 1 or 9, bump it. | ||
* If the numerator mod 10 is 3 or 7, triple the ratio before bumping. (23/13 --> 69/39 --> 70/40 --> 7/4 and 16/9) | * If the numerator mod 10 is 3 or 7, triple the ratio before bumping. (23/13 --> 69/39 --> 70/40 --> 7/4 and 16/9) | ||
== Example: comparing various edos to 41-edo == | |||
{| class="wikitable center-all" | |||
|+ | |||
!edo | |||
!1 | |||
!2 | |||
!3 | |||
!4 | |||
!5 | |||
!6 | |||
!7 | |||
!8 | |||
!9 | |||
!10 | |||
!11 | |||
!12 | |||
!13b | |||
!14 | |||
!15 | |||
!16 | |||
!17 | |||
!18b | |||
!19 | |||
!20 | |||
|- | |||
! rowspan="2" |nearest | |||
misses | |||
|0\1 | |||
|1\2 | |||
|1\3 | |||
|1\4 | |||
|1\5 | |||
M2 | |||
|1\6 | |||
|1\7 | |||
P2 | |||
|1\8 | |||
|2\9 | |||
M3 | |||
|1\10 | |||
^m2 | |||
|4\11 | |||
v4 | |||
|5\12 | |||
P4 | |||
|6\13 | |||
P4 | |||
|1\14 | |||
v2 | |||
|4\15 | |||
^m3 | |||
|7\16 | |||
P4 | |||
|5\17 | |||
~3 | |||
|7\18 | |||
v4 | |||
|6\19 | |||
M3 | |||
|1\20 | |||
^m2 | |||
|- | |||
|1\41 | |||
^1 | |||
|20\41 | |||
d5 | |||
|14\41 | |||
M3 | |||
|10\41 | |||
m3 | |||
|8\41 | |||
^M2 | |||
|7\41 | |||
M2 | |||
|6\41 | |||
vM2 | |||
|5\41 | |||
~3 | |||
|9\41 | |||
vm3 | |||
|4\41 | |||
^m2 | |||
|15\41 | |||
^M3 | |||
|17\41 | |||
P4 | |||
|19\41 | |||
~4 | |||
|3\41 | |||
m2 | |||
|11\41 | |||
^m3 | |||
|18\41 | |||
^4 | |||
|12\41 | |||
~3 | |||
|16\41 | |||
v4 | |||
|13\41 | |||
vM3 | |||
|2\41 | |||
vm2 | |||
|- | |||
! rowspan="2" |farthest | |||
misses | |||
|0\1 | |||
|1\2 | |||
|1\3 | |||
|2\4 | |||
|2\5 | |||
P4 | |||
|3\6 | |||
|3\7 | |||
P4 | |||
|4\8 | |||
|1\9 | |||
M2 | |||
|5\10 | |||
|2\11 | |||
M3 | |||
|6\12 | |||
|3\13 | |||
^M3 | |||
|7\14 | |||
|2\15 | |||
vM2 | |||
|8\16 | |||
|6\17 | |||
M3 | |||
|9\18 | |||
|3\19 | |||
M2 | |||
|10\20 | |||
|- | |||
|20\41 | |||
d5 | |||
|10\41 | |||
m3 | |||
|7\41 | |||
M2 | |||
|5\41 | |||
~2 | |||
|4\41 | |||
^m2 | |||
|17\41 | |||
P4 | |||
|3\41 | |||
m2 | |||
|18\41 | |||
^4 | |||
|16\41 | |||
v4 | |||
|2\41 | |||
vm2 | |||
|13\41 | |||
vM3 | |||
|12\41 | |||
~3 | |||
|11\41 | |||
^m3 | |||
|19\41 | |||
~4 | |||
|15\41 | |||
^M3 | |||
|9\41 | |||
vm3 | |||
|6\41 | |||
vM2 | |||
|8\41 | |||
^M2 | |||
|14\41 | |||
M3 | |||
|1\41 | |||
^1 | |||
|- | |||
!edo | |||
!40 | |||
!39 | |||
!38 | |||
!37 | |||
!36 | |||
!35 | |||
!34 | |||
!33 | |||
!32 | |||
!31 | |||
!30 | |||
!29 | |||
!28 | |||
!27 | |||
!26 | |||
!25 | |||
!24 | |||
!23 | |||
!22 | |||
!21 | |||
|- | |||
! rowspan="2" |nearest | |||
misses | |||
|1\40 | |||
^1 | |||
|19\39 | |||
^d5 | |||
|13\38 | |||
^M3 | |||
|9\37 | |||
^m3 | |||
|7\36 | |||
^M2 | |||
|6\35 | |||
^2 | |||
|5\34 | |||
vM2 | |||
|4\33 | |||
m2 | |||
|7\32 | |||
m3 | |||
|3\31 | |||
m2 | |||
|11\30 | |||
vM3 | |||
|12\29 | |||
P4 | |||
|13\28 | |||
^4 | |||
|2\27 | |||
^m2 | |||
|7\26 | |||
m3 | |||
|11\25 | |||
^4 | |||
|7\24 | |||
~3 | |||
|9\23 | |||
A4 | |||
|7\22 | |||
vM3 | |||
|1\21 | |||
^1 | |||
|- | |||
|1\41 | |||
^1 | |||
|20\41 | |||
d5 | |||
|14\41 | |||
M3 | |||
|10\41 | |||
m3 | |||
|8\41 | |||
^M2 | |||
|7\41 | |||
M2 | |||
|6\41 | |||
vM2 | |||
|5\41 | |||
~2 | |||
|9\41 | |||
vm3 | |||
|4\41 | |||
^m2 | |||
|15\41 | |||
^M3 | |||
|17\41 | |||
P4 | |||
|19\41 | |||
~4 | |||
|3\41 | |||
m2 | |||
|11\41 | |||
^m3 | |||
|18\41 | |||
^4 | |||
|12\41 | |||
~3 | |||
|16\41 | |||
v4 | |||
|13\41 | |||
vM3 | |||
|2\41 | |||
vm2 | |||
|- | |||
! rowspan="2" |farthest | |||
misses | |||
|20\40 | |||
|10\39 | |||
^m3 | |||
|19\38 | |||
|14\37 | |||
M3 | |||
|18\36 | |||
|3\35 | |||
vv2 | |||
|17\34 | |||
|2\33 | |||
dd2 | |||
|16\32 | |||
|14\31 | |||
^4 | |||
|15\30 | |||
|6\29 | |||
^M2 | |||
|14\28 | |||
|1\27 | |||
m2 | |||
|13\26 | |||
|7\25 | |||
^^m3 | |||
|12\24 | |||
|7\23 | |||
m3 | |||
|11\22 | |||
|10\21 | |||
^4 | |||
|- | |||
|20\41 | |||
d5 | |||
|10\41 | |||
m3 | |||
|7\41 | |||
M2 | |||
|5\41 | |||
~2 | |||
|4\41 | |||
^m2 | |||
|17\41 | |||
P4 | |||
|3\41 | |||
m2 | |||
|18\41 | |||
^4 | |||
|16\41 | |||
v4 | |||
|2\41 | |||
vm2 | |||
|13\41 | |||
vM3 | |||
|12\41 | |||
~3 | |||
|11\41 | |||
^m3 | |||
|19\41 | |||
~4 | |||
|15\41 | |||
^M3 | |||
|9\41 | |||
vm3 | |||
|6\41 | |||
vM2 | |||
|8\41 | |||
^M2 | |||
|14\41 | |||
M3 | |||
|1\41 | |||
^1 | |||
|} | |||
* Note the symmetry of the 41-edo intervals, which results from the symmetry of the Stern-Brocot tree. | |||
* The "b" in 13b and 18b only affects the interval names. For example, 6\13 in 13b-edo nomenclature is a P4, but in 13-edo it would be an ^4. | |||
* The unnamed farthest misses for edos other than 41 are the half-octave. | |||
== Further notes == | == Further notes == | ||
The delta method was invented by [[Kite Giedraitis]] in 2022. The ratio approximations for a/b and c/d rely on the formula log [(a+c)/(b+d)] ≈ [a/(a+c)] * log [a/b] + [c/(a+c)] * log [c/d], where ad - bc = ±1. There may be a better formula. | The delta method was invented by [[Kite Giedraitis]] in 2022. The ratio approximations for a/b and c/d rely on the formula log [(a+c)/(b+d)] ≈ [a/(a+c)] * log [a/b] + [c/(a+c)] * log [c/d], where ad - bc = ±1. There may be a better formula. | ||