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This is a system for describing and naming mos scales beyond the set of named TAMNAMS mosses. Both [[User:Frostburn]] ([[User:Frostburn/TAMNAMS Extension]]) and I have similar systems for how to name mos descendants, but this page describes additional naming systems that apply to mosses with non-octave equivalence intervals.
This is a system for describing and naming mos scales beyond the set of named TAMNAMS mosses. Both [[User:Frostburn]] ([[User:Frostburn/TAMNAMS Extension]]) and I have similar systems for how to name mos descendants. However, this page describes several more systems that apply to non-octave mosses.


== Naming mos descendants ==
== Naming mos descendants ==
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=== Former names worth restoring (proposed) ===
=== Specific names for mosses beyond 10 notes (proposed) ===
These names are intended for notable mosses outside the named range for which its mos descendant name would be insufficient.
 
==== Former names worth restoring (proposed) ====
At one point, TAMNAMS had tenuously named mosses up to 12 notes. Following reorganization back in August of 2022, many temperament-suggestive names were replaced, and names for 11 and 12-note mosses were dropped. Of those, these names are (in my opinion) worth restoring, either because these names are noteworthy (eg, m- and p-chromatic) or because these temperament-suggestive names are better suited as names for child mosses (eg, 3L 5s was named sensoid).
At one point, TAMNAMS had tenuously named mosses up to 12 notes. Following reorganization back in August of 2022, many temperament-suggestive names were replaced, and names for 11 and 12-note mosses were dropped. Of those, these names are (in my opinion) worth restoring, either because these names are noteworthy (eg, m- and p-chromatic) or because these temperament-suggestive names are better suited as names for child mosses (eg, 3L 5s was named sensoid).
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!Name
!Name
!Reasoning
!Reasoning
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|8L 5s
|petroid
|Restoration of an old name
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|9L 4s
|9L 4s
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=== Names for monolarge mosses (proposed) ===
==== Names for monolarge mosses (proposed) ====
These name suggestions are based on a proposal to rename some of the monolarge mosses to be based on gemstones and minerals, following the logic set forth for the name "onyx" for 1L 6s.
Names for monolarge mosses are contingent on a proposal in which these names are based on types of minerals, rocks, or gemstones.
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!Mos
!Mos
!Current name
!Proposed name
!Proposed name
!Current name
!Reasoning
!Reasoning
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|1L 5s
|antimachinoid
|selenite or moonstone
|Indirect reference to luna temperament.
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|1L 6s
|1L 6s
|onyx
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|onyx
| rowspan="5" |A ''lot'' of naming puns ('''one-six''', s'''pine'''l, ag'''eight''', oliv'''nine''', '''ten'''orite)
|"from ''a lot'' of naming puns"
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|1L 7s
|1L 7s
|antipine
|spinel
|spinel
|antipine
|Contains the substring "pine"
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|1L 8s
|1L 8s
|antisubneutralic
|agate
|agate
|antisubneutralic
|Rhymes with eight
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|1L 9s
|1L 9s
|antisinatonic
|olivine
|olivine
|antisinatonic
|Rhymes with nine
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|1L 10s
|1L 10s
|tanzanite, tenorite
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|"ten"
|tanzanite or tenorite
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|1L 11s
|1L 11s
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|helenite
|helenite
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|"ele" substring is part of "eleven"
|"ele" substring is part of "eleven"
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|1L 12s
|1L 12s
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|zircon
|zircon
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|Zircon is used as a birthstone for December
|Zircon is used as a birthstone for December
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=== Other suggestions (proposed) ===
==== Other names (proposed) ====
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|grumpy tridecatonic (Dwarf Naming Scheme)
|grumpy tridecatonic (Dwarf Naming Scheme)
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==Names for mos linear families (proposed)==
== Other naming schemes ==
Rather than name mosses related by the number of large steps they have, where the mosses are of the form xL (nx + y)s and relate back to a mos xL ys (n=0), these mosses can be described as members of a family. An example of such a family is the mos sequence 5L 2s, 5L 7s, 5L 12s, 5L 17s, etc, where each successive mos has 5 more small steps than the last. By extension, the mos 7L 5s (the sister of 5L 7s) is not seen as a member of this linear family even though it's part of the diatonic family as a whole, but rather as the start of its own linear family; put another way, the mosses 5L 2s, 5L 7s, 5L 12s, 5L 17s, etc are a subfamily within the larger diatonic family.
This section describes additional naming schemes.
===Names for mos linear families (proposed)===
Mosses with the same number of large steps can be described as its own family, specifically a family of related mosses of the form xL (nx + y)s. This family starts with the mos xL ys, where x < y and n = 0, and continue with mosses with the same number of large steps but a linearly growing quantity of small steps. An example of such a family is the mos sequence 5L 2s, 5L 7s, 5L 12s, 5L 17s, etc, where each successive mos has 5 more small steps than the last.


Mosses in a linear family are based on repeated applications of the replacement ruleset L->Ls and s->s on the initial mos, and reaching the nth member of a linear family requires the initial mos have a hard or pseudocollapsed step ratio. The child mos (x+y)L xs is the start of its own linear family, which relates back to the initial mos xL ys if the initial mos has a step ratio that is soft or pseudoequalized.
Mosses in a linear family are based on repeated applications of the replacement ruleset L->Ls and s->s on the initial mos, and reaching the nth member of a linear family requires the initial mos have a hard or pseudocollapsed step ratio. The child mos (x+y)L xs is the start of its own linear family, which relates back to the initial mos xL ys if the initial mos has a step ratio that is soft or pseudoequalized.
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|7L (7n+3)s
|7L (7n+3)s
|dicolinear or zalinear family
|dicolinear family
|Named after dicotonic (also called zaltertic)
|Named after dicotonic
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|7L (7n+4)s
|7L (7n+4)s
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== Non-octave extensions (proposed) ==
== Non-octave extensions (proposed) ==
This section describes naming systems for mosses whose equivalence interval is not the octave or for which the notion of an equivalence interval is unimportant.


=== Equave-agnostic names (proposed) ===
=== Equave-agnostic names (proposed) ===
This is a proposed scheme to name mosses regardless of the equivalence interval, either for nonoctave mosses or nested mos patterns such as with a mos cradle. Whether such a proposal is within the scope of TAMNAMS (as it currently concerns octave-equivalent and tempered-octave scales) is not known. These names are not final and are open to better suggestions.
This is a proposed scheme to name mosses regardless of the equivalence interval, These names are meant for nonoctave mosses and nested mos patterns such as with a mos cradle. These names are not final and are open to better suggestions.
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! colspan="5" |4-note mosses (new names only)
! colspan="5" |4-note mosses (new names only)
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|quintuple trivial
|quintuple trivial
|Yes (5)
|Yes (5)
|penptriv-
|5triv-
|5trv
|5trv
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This pattern is continued for all successive sequences of mosses for each successive note count: 1L ns and nL 1s are given a Sanskrit-based name, the next single-period pair after that are given a Greek-based name, and the next single-period pair after that are given a Latin-based name. The two 8-note pairs are named '''astaic''' (7L 1s and 1L 7s) and '''octic''' (5L 3s and 3L 5s) respectively. The three 9-note pairs are named '''navic''' (8L 1s and 1L 8s), '''ennaic''' (7L 2s and 2L 7s), and '''novemic''' (4L 5s and 5L 4s). Finally the two 10-note pairs are named '''dashic''' (9L 1s and 1L 9s) and '''dekic''' (7L 3s and 3L 7s).
This pattern is continued for all successive sequences of mosses for each successive note count: 1L ns and nL 1s are given a Sanskrit-based name, the next single-period pair after that are given a Greek-based name, and the next single-period pair after that are given a Latin-based name. The two 8-note pairs are named '''astaic''' (7L 1s and 1L 7s) and '''octic''' (5L 3s and 3L 5s) respectively. The three 9-note pairs are named '''navic''' (8L 1s and 1L 8s), '''ennaic''' (7L 2s and 2L 7s), and '''novemic''' (4L 5s and 5L 4s). Finally the two 10-note pairs are named '''dashic''' (9L 1s and 1L 9s) and '''dekic''' (7L 3s and 3L 7s).


Names for multi-period mosses are based on the name of a smaller, base mos preceded by the number of times it's duplicated (double, triple, quadruple, etc). The prefix and abbreviation of the base mos is preceded by the number of duplications. For example, 2L 2s is double trivial, its prefix is 2triv-, and its abbreviation is 2trv.
Since the equivalence interval can be anything, names for multi-period mosses are named as a smaller mos repeated (double, triple, quadruple, etc) some number of times. The prefix and abbreviation of the base mos is preceded by the number of duplications. For example, 2L 2s is double trivial, its prefix is 2triv-, and its abbreviation is 2trv.


== Reasoning for names ==
== Reasoning for names ==
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