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[[Kite Giedraitis|Kite's]] diatonic solfege uses the conventional 7 consonants D, R, M, F, S, L and T. It uses unconventional vowels. For each degree, the sequence runs [[wikipedia:Front_vowel|front]] to [[wikipedia:Back_vowel|back]] (i.e. bright to dim) -i -e -a -o -u for upmajor-major-mid-minor-downminor. It uses the exact same 33 note names as Kite's [[31edo solfege]].
[[Kite Giedraitis|Kite's]] diatonic solfege uses the conventional 7 consonants D, R, M, F, S, L and T. It uses unconventional vowels. For each degree, the sequence runs [[wikipedia:Front_vowel|front]] to [[wikipedia:Back_vowel|back]] (i.e. bright to dim) -i -e -a -o -u for upmajor-major-mid-minor-downminor. It uses the exact same 33 note names as Kite's [[31edo solfege]].
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|+Kite's diatonic solfege (-i -e -a -o -u = ^M M ~ m vm), see 31edo
|+Kite's diatonic solfege (-i -e -a -o -u = ^M M ~ m vm), see 31edo
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!notes
!notes
|C
|C
|^C
|^C<br>vDb
vDb
|Db
|Db
|vD
|vD
|D
|D
|^D
|^D<br>vEb
vEb
|Eb
|Eb
|vE
|vE
|E
|E
|^E
|^E<br>vF
vF
|F
|F
|^F
|^F<br>vGb
vGb
|F#<br>Gb
|F#
|^F#<br>vG
Gb
|^F#
vG
|G
|G
|^G
|^G<br>vAb
vAb
|Ab
|Ab
|vA
|vA
|A
|A
|^A
|^A<br>vBb
vBb
|Bb
|Bb
|vB
|vB
|B
|B
|^B
|^B<br>vC
vC
|C
|C
|-
|-
!intervals
!intervals
|P1
|P1
|^1
|^1<br>vm2
vm2
|m2
|m2
|~2
|~2
|M2
|M2
|^M2
|^M2<br>vm3
vm3
|m3
|m3
|~3
|~3
|M3
|M3
|^M3
|^M3<br>v4
v4
|P4
|P4
|^4
|^4<br>vd5
vd5
|A4<br>d5
|A4
|^A4<br>v5
d5
|^A4
v5
|P5
|P5
|^5
|^5<br>vm6
vm6
|m6
|m6
|~6
|~6
|M6
|M6
|^M6
|^M6<br>vm7
vm7
|m7
|m7
|~7
|~7
|M7
|M7
|^M7
|^M7<br>v8
v8
|P8
|P8
|-
|-
!solfege
!solfege
|Do
|Do
|Da
|Da<br>Ru
Ru
|Ro
|Ro
|Ra
|Ra
|Re
|Re
|Ri
|Ri<br>Mu
Mu
|Mo
|Mo
|Ma
|Ma
|Me
|Me
|Mi
|Mi<br>Fu
Fu
|Fo
|Fo
|Fa
|Fa<br>Su
Su
|Fe<br>So
|Fe
|Fi<br>Sa
So
|Fi
Sa
|Se
|Se
|Si
|Si<br>Lu
Lu
|Lo
|Lo
|La
|La
|Le
|Le
|Li
|Li<br>Tu
Tu
|To
|To
|Ta
|Ta
|Te
|Te
|Ti
|Ti<br>Du
Du
|Do
|Do
|}
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!~7
!~7
!M2
!M2
!^4
!^4<br>vd5
vd5
!M6
!M6
! ^1
! ^1<br>vm2
vm2
!M3
!M3
!^5
!^5<br>vm6
vm6
!M7
!M7
!^M2
!^M2<br>vm3
vm3
!A4<br>d5
!A4
!^M6<br>vm7
d5
!^M6
vm7
!m2
!m2
! ^M3
! ^M3<br>v4
v4
!m6
!m6
! ^M7
! ^M7<br>v8
v8
!m3
!m3
!^A4
!^A4<br>v5
v5
!m7
!m7
! ~2
!~2
!P4
!P4
!~6
!~6
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|Se
|Se
|Ta
|Ta
| Re
|Re
| Fa
|Fa<br>Shu
Shu
|Le
|Le
|Da
|Da<br>Ru
Ru
|Me
|Me
|Si
|Si<br>Lu
Lu
| Te
| Te
|Ri
|Ri<br>Mu
Mu
|Fe<br>So
|Fe
|Li<br>Tu
So
|Li
Tu
|Ro
|Ro
|Mi
|Mi<br>Fu
Fu
|Lo
|Lo
| Ti
| Ti<br>Du
Du
|Mo
|Mo
|Fi
|Fi<br>Sa
Sa
|To
|To
|Ra
|Ra
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*Th = flat Ti
*Th = flat Ti
*N- = flat Mi
*N- = flat Mi
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!24edo
!24edo
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!notes
!notes
|C
|C
|^C
|^C<br>vDb
vDb
|Db
|Db
|vD
|vD
|D
|D
|^D
|^D<br>vEb
vEb
|Eb
|Eb
|vE
|vE
|E
|E
|^E
|^E<br>vF
vF
|F
|F
|^F
|^F<br>vGb
vGb
|F#<br>Gb
|F#
|^F#<br>vG
Gb
|^F#
vG
|G
|G
|^G
|^G<br>vAb
vAb
|Ab
|Ab
|vA
|vA
|A
|A
|^A
|^A<br>vBb
vBb
|Bb
|Bb
|vB
|vB
|B
|B
|^B
|^B<br>vC
vC
|C
|C
|-
|-
!intervals
!intervals
|P1
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|^1
|^1<br>vm2
vm2
|m2
|m2
|~2
|~2
|M2
|M2
|^M2
|^M2<br>vm3
vm3
|m3
|m3
|~3
|~3
|M3
|M3
|^M3
|^M3<br>v4
v4
|P4
|P4
|^4
|^4<br>vd5
vd5
|A4<br>d5
|A4
|^A4<br>v5
d5
|^A4
v5
|P5
|P5
|^5
|^5<br>vm6
vm6
|m6
|m6
|~6
|~6
|M6
|M6
|^M6
|^M6<br>vm7
vm7
|m7
|m7
|~7
|~7
|M7
|M7
|^M7
|^M7<br>v8
v8
|P8
|P8
|-
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!solfege
!solfege
|Da
|Da
|Du
|Du<br>Fro
Fro
|Fra
|Fra
|Ro
|Ro
|Ra
|Ra
|Ru
|Ru<br>No
No
|Na
|Na
|Mo
|Mo
|Ma
|Ma
|Mu
|Mu<br>Fo
Fo
|Fa
|Fa
|Fu
|Fu<br>Sho
Sho
|Sha
|Sha
|Shu
|Shu<br>So
So
|Sa
|Sa
|Su
|Su<br>Flo
Flo
|Fla
|Fla
|Lo
|Lo
|La
|La
|Lu
|Lu<br>Tho
Tho
|Tha
|Tha
|To
|To
|Ta
|Ta
|Tu
|Tu<br>Do
Do
|Da
|Da
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!~7
!M2
!M2
!^4
!^4<br>vd5
vd5
!M6
!M6
!^1
!^1<br>vm2
vm2
!M3
!M3
!^5
!^5<br>vm6
vm6
!M7
!M7
!^M2
!^M2<br>vm3
vm3
!d5
!d5
!^M6
!^M6<br>vm7
vm7
!m2
!m2
!^M3
!^M3<br>v4
v4
!m6
!m6
!^M7
!^M7<br>v8
v8
!m3
!m3
!^d5
!^d5<br>v5
v5
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!m7
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|Ra
|Fu
|Fu<br>Sho
Sho
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|La
|Du
|Du<br>Fro
Fro
|Ma
|Ma
|Su
|Su<br>Flo
Flo
|Ta
|Ta
|Ru
|Ru<br>No
No
|Sha
|Sha
|Lu
|Lu<br>Tho
Tho
|Fra
|Fra
|Mu
|Mu<br>Fo
Fo
|Fla
|Fla
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|Tu<br>Do
Do
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|Na
|Shu
|Shu<br>So
So
|Tha
|Tha
|Ro
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Revision as of 22:06, 31 August 2022

Kite Giedraitis's diatonic solfege

Kite's diatonic solfege uses the conventional 7 consonants D, R, M, F, S, L and T. It uses unconventional vowels. For each degree, the sequence runs front to back (i.e. bright to dim) -i -e -a -o -u for upmajor-major-mid-minor-downminor. It uses the exact same 33 note names as Kite's 31edo solfege.

Kite's diatonic solfege (-i -e -a -o -u = ^M M ~ m vm), see 31edo
24edo 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
notes C ^C
vDb
Db vD D ^D
vEb
Eb vE E ^E
vF
F ^F
vGb
F#
Gb
^F#
vG
G ^G
vAb
Ab vA A ^A
vBb
Bb vB B ^B
vC
C
intervals P1 ^1
vm2
m2 ~2 M2 ^M2
vm3
m3 ~3 M3 ^M3
v4
P4 ^4
vd5
A4
d5
^A4
v5
P5 ^5
vm6
m6 ~6 M6 ^M6
vm7
m7 ~7 M7 ^M7
v8
P8
solfege Do Da
Ru
Ro Ra Re Ri
Mu
Mo Ma Me Mi
Fu
Fo Fa
Su
Fe
So
Fi
Sa
Se Si
Lu
Lo La Le Li
Tu
To Ta Te Ti
Du
Do

Beware: Mi, Fa, So, La and Ti all have new meanings.

Example scales
Upmajor scale Do Re Mi Fo Se Li Ti Do
Major scale Do Re Me Fo Se Le Te Do
Mid scale Do Re Ma Fo Se La Ta Do
Minor scale Do Re Mo Fo Se Lo To Do
Downminor scale Do Re Mu Fo Se Lu Tu Do

To find the octave complement of any interval:

  • change the degree as usual: 2nd <--> 7th, 3rd <--> 6th, and 4th <--> 5th
  • change the vowel as expected: -i <--> -u and -e <--> -o (-a is unchanged)

The two circles of fifths

The plain circle lacks ups and downs, hence the name.

The plain circle of 5ths
P1 P5 M2 M6 M3 M7 A4/d5 m2 m6 m3 m7 P4 P1
Do Se Re Le Me Te Fe/So Ro Lo Mo To Fo Do

The "off" circle contains the 6 offperfect intervals (^1 ^4 v4 ^5 v5 v8). The other 6 notes could be thought of as offmajor or offminor. Most of the notes in this circle have two names.

The "off" circle of 5ths
vm2
^1
vm6
^5
vm3
^M2
vm7
^M6
v4
^M3
v8
^M7
v5
^A4
~2 ~6 ~3 ~7 vd5
^4
vm2
^1
Su Ru
Ru Lu Mu Tu Fu Du Sa Ra La Ma Ta Fa Da
Da Si Ri Li Mi Ti Fi

Viewed as chains instead of circles:

  • plain chain: So Ro Lo Mo To Fo Do Se Re Le Me Te Fe
  • off chain: Su Ru Lu Mu Tu Fu Du Sa Ra La Ma Ta Fa Da Si Ri Li Mi Ti Fi

It's fairly easy to find the note a 4th or 5th above any note. The consonant is as would be expected from conventional interval arithmetic. There are only 3 fifths that don't rhyme:

  • Do - Se (P1 to P5)
  • Da - Si (^1 to ^5)
  • Du - Sa (v1 to v5)

Thus Re plus a 4th is Se, Ro plus a 5th is Lo, etc. And in the example scales above, the 3rd, 6th and 7th always rhyme, as do the tonic and 4th, as do the 2nd and 5th.

However going a 5th up from an aug or upaug 4th would go to an aug or upaug 8ve, which doesn't exist in this solfege. Therefore one must rename the 4th as a dim 5th, then go up a 5th to a minor 2nd. Thus Fe + 5th = So + 5th = Ro. Likewise when adding a 4th, dim 5ths need renaming: So + 4th = Fe + 4th = Te.

Other circles

The two circles of 5ths can be interwoven to make a circle of mid 3rds.

P1 ~3 P5 ~7 M2 ^4
vd5
M6 ^1
vm2
M3 ^5
vm6
M7 ^M2
vm3
A4
d5
^M6
vm7
m2 ^M3
v4
m6 ^M7
v8
m3 ^A4
v5
m7 ~2 P4 ~6 P1
Do Ma Se Ta Re Fa
Shu
Le Da
Ru
Me Si
Lu
Te Ri
Mu
Fe
So
Li
Tu
Ro Mi
Fu
Lo Ti
Du
Mo Fi
Sa
To Ra Fo La Do

The two circles of 4ths can be interwoven to make a circle of half-4ths.

P1 ^M2
vm3
P4 ^5
vm6
m7 ^1
vm2
m3 ^4
vd5
m6 ~7 m2 ~3 A4
d5
~6 M7 ~2 M3 ^A4
v5
M6 ^M7
v8
M2 ^M3
v4
P5 ^M6
vm7
P1
Do Ri
Mu
Fo Si
Lu
To Da
Ru
Mo Fa
Su
Lo Ta Ro Ma Fe
So
La Te Ra Me Fi
Sa
Le Ti
Du
Re Mi
Fu
Se Li
Tu
Do

There is also a circle of down 5ths.

Kite Giedraitis's chromatic solfege

Kite's chromatic solfege uses the 7 conventional consonants D, R, M, F, S, L and T, plus 5 altered consonants that indicate flattening. It uses unconventional vowels: "oo" = u = up, "oh" = o = down, and "ah" = a = plain. It's a subset of Kite's 41edo solfege.

  • Fr- = flat Re
  • Fl- = flat La
  • Sh- = flat So = sharp Fa
  • Th = flat Ti
  • N- = flat Mi
24edo 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
notes C ^C
vDb
Db vD D ^D
vEb
Eb vE E ^E
vF
F ^F
vGb
F#
Gb
^F#
vG
G ^G
vAb
Ab vA A ^A
vBb
Bb vB B ^B
vC
C
intervals P1 ^1
vm2
m2 ~2 M2 ^M2
vm3
m3 ~3 M3 ^M3
v4
P4 ^4
vd5
A4
d5
^A4
v5
P5 ^5
vm6
m6 ~6 M6 ^M6
vm7
m7 ~7 M7 ^M7
v8
P8
solfege Da Du
Fro
Fra Ro Ra Ru
No
Na Mo Ma Mu
Fo
Fa Fu
Sho
Sha Shu
So
Sa Su
Flo
Fla Lo La Lu
Tho
Tha To Ta Tu
Do
Da

Beware, Do and So have new meanings.

Example scales
Upmajor scale Da Ra Mu Fa Sa Lu Tu Da
Major scale Da Ra Ma Fa Sa La Ta Da
Mid scale Da Ra Mo Fa Sa Lo To Da
Minor scale Da Ra Na Fa Sa Fla Tha Da
Downminor scale Da Ra No Fa Sa Flo Tho Da

To find the octave complement of any interval:

  • change the degree as usual: 2nd <--> 7th, 3rd <--> 6th, and 4th <--> 5th
  • change the quality as usual: major <--> minor, aug <--> dim, but perfect and mid are unchanged
  • change the vowel as expected: -i <--> -u and -e <--> -o (-a is unchanged)
  • if you get an aug 4th, change it to a dim 5th with the same vowel
  • if you get an upminor interval Fru, Nu, Flu or Thu, change it to downmajor: Ro, Mo, Lo or To

The two circles of fifths

The plain circle lacks ups and downs, hence the name.

The plain circle of 5ths
P1 P5 M2 M6 M3 M7 A4/d5 m2 m6 m3 m7 P4 P1
Da Sa Ra La Ma Ta Sha Fra Fla Na Tha Fa Da

The "off" circle contains the 6 offperfect intervals (^1 ^4 v4 ^5 v5 v8). The other 6 notes could be thought of as offmajor or offminor. Most of the notes in this circle have two names.

The "off" circle of 5ths
vm2
^1
vm6
^5
vm3
^M2
vm7
^M6
v4
^M3
v8
^M7
v5
^d5
~2 ~6 ~3 ~7 vd5
^4
vm2
^1
Fro Flo No Tho Fo Do So Ro Lo Mo To Sho Fro
Du Su Ru Lu Mu Tu Shu Fu Du

Viewed as chains instead of circles:

  • plain chain: Sha Fra Fla Na Tha Fa Da Sa Ra La Ma Ta
  • off chain: Sho Fro Flo No Tho Fo Do So Ro Lo Mo To and Fu Du Su Ru Lu Mu Tu Shu

It's fairly easy to find the note a 4th or 5th above any note. The vowels match, i.e. the syllables rhyme. The consonant is as would be expected from conventional interval arithmetic. However, remember that an aug 4th is named as a dim 5th:

  • To + P5 = Sho
  • Ta + P5 = Sha
  • Tu + P5 = Shu

Thus Ra plus a 4th is Sa, Ro plus a 5th is Lo, etc. And in the example scales above, the 3rd, 6th and 7th always rhyme, as do the tonic, 2nd, 4th and 5th.

Other circles

The two circles of 5ths can be interwoven to make a circle of mid 3rds.

P1 ~3 P5 ~7 M2 ^4
vd5
M6 ^1
vm2
M3 ^5
vm6
M7 ^M2
vm3
d5 ^M6
vm7
m2 ^M3
v4
m6 ^M7
v8
m3 ^d5
v5
m7 ~2 P4 ~6 P1
Da Mo Sa To Ra Fu
Sho
La Du
Fro
Ma Su
Flo
Ta Ru
No
Sha Lu
Tho
Fra Mu
Fo
Fla Tu
Do
Na Shu
So
Tha Ro Fa Lo Da

The two circles of 4ths can be interwoven to make a circle of half-4ths.

P1 ^M2
vm3
P4 ^5
vm6
m7 ^1
vm2
m3 ^4
vd5
m6 ~7 m2 ~3 d5 ~6 M7 ~2 M3 ^d5
v5
M6 ^M7
v8
M2 ^M3
v4
P5 ^M6
vm7
P1
Da Ru

No

Fa Su
Flo
Tha Du

Fro

Na Fu
Sho
Fla To Fra Mo Sha Lo Ta Ro Ma Shu

So

La Tu
Do
Ra Mu
Fo
Sa Lu
Tho
Da

There is also a circle of down 5ths.