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(This is a work in progress)
The point is to standardize the mappings so that they are less confusing to newbies, and musically as useful as possible.
The point is to standardize the mappings so that they are less confusing to newbies, and musically as useful as possible.


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* If needed, correct the mapping to [[mingen]] form, except use 3/2 not 4/3 (e.g. Diaschismic Family page should have ~3/2 not ~3/1)
* If needed, correct the mapping to [[mingen]] form, except use 3/2 not 4/3 (e.g. Diaschismic Family page should have ~3/2 not ~3/1)
* List equivalent ratios where appropriate, e.g. Pajara's mingen generator is ~16/15 = ~15/14 = ~21/20
* List equivalent ratios where appropriate, e.g. Pajara's mingen generator is ~16/15 = ~15/14 = ~21/20
* For every comma, add either the monzo or a link to a page that has the monzo
* Add the pergen and remove the wedgie
* Add the pergen and remove the wedgie


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The pergen mapping (short for canonical-pergen mapping) is the one which implies the canonical pergen. A mapping's implied pergen is found by 1) discarding all columns in the mapping which don't contain a pivot and 2) inverting the resulting square matrix. (See below for an exception to #1.) For example, the mingen mapping of 5-limit Srutal is  [{{val|1= 2 3 5}}, {{val|1= 0 1 -2 }}], which becomes  [{{val|1= 2 3}}, {{val|1= 0 1 }}], which inverts to [[1/2 0⟩ [-3/2 1⟩], which implies the pergen (P8/2, M2/2), which is a non-canonical pergen. The canonical pergen minimizes the splitting fractions and the cents of the multigen. Here it is (P8/2, P5) which is [[1/2 0⟩ [-1 1⟩], which inverts to [{{val|1= 2 2}}, {{val|1= 0 1 }}]. This implies the mapping of [{{val|1= 2 2 7 }}, {{val|1= 0 1 -2 }}].
The pergen mapping (short for canonical-pergen mapping) is the one which implies the canonical pergen. A mapping's implied pergen is found by 1) discarding all columns in the mapping which don't contain a pivot and 2) inverting the resulting square matrix. (See below for an exception to #1.) For example, the mingen mapping of 5-limit Srutal is  [{{val|1= 2 3 5}}, {{val|1= 0 1 -2 }}], which becomes  [{{val|1= 2 3}}, {{val|1= 0 1 }}], which inverts to [[1/2 0⟩ [-3/2 1⟩], which implies the pergen (P8/2, M2/2), which is a non-canonical pergen. The canonical pergen minimizes the splitting fractions and the cents of the multigen. Here it is (P8/2, P5) which is [[1/2 0⟩ [-1 1⟩], which inverts to [{{val|1= 2 2}}, {{val|1= 0 1 }}]. This implies the mapping of [{{val|1= 2 2 7 }}, {{val|1= 0 1 -2 }}].


=== '''Examples of some of the proposed changes to the [[Diaschismic family]] page:''' ===
=== Examples of some of the proposed changes to the [[Diaschismic family]] page: ===


==Srutal (12&34, aka diaschismic)==
==Srutal (12&34, aka diaschismic)==
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[[POTE generator|POTE generators]]: ~3/2 = 704.154¢, ~15/14 = 129.824¢
[[POTE generator|POTE generators]]: ~3/2 = 704.154¢, ~15/14 = 129.824¢


= Possible additional proposals (needs work) =
= Possible additional proposal =
1) Add the notations for higher primes, immediately after the pergen. For example in septimal meantone, 5/4 is a major 3rd and 7/4 is an augmented 6th. Thus the pergen line would be (P8, P5) M3 A6. For Pajara, it would be (P8, P5/2) M3 vm7. This would be enormously helpful to the musician/composer who isn't familiar with linear algebra. But it has the disadvantage that it requires settling on a specific notation for that temperament. There may be cases where that is difficult.
Add the notations for higher primes, immediately after the pergen. For example in septimal meantone, 5/4 is a major 3rd and 7/4 is an augmented 6th. Thus the pergen line would be (P8, P5) M3 A6. For Pajara, it would be (P8, P5/2) M3 vm7. This would be enormously helpful to the musician/composer who isn't familiar with linear algebra. But it has the disadvantage that it requires settling on a specific notation for that temperament. There may be cases where that is difficult.
 
2) Add the monzos for commas alongside the ratio. Or perhaps list the entire twin-square matrix, in a table.
 
3) Add the color name for the commas.