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== | == Nusecond == | ||
: ''For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see [[High badness temperaments # | : ''For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see [[High badness temperaments #Nusecond]].'' | ||
Nusecond tempers out 2430/2401 and 16875/16807 in addition to 126/125, and may be described as 31&70. It has a neutral second generator of 49/45, two of which make up a 6/5 minor third since 2430/2401 is tempered out. [[31edo|31EDO]] can be used as a tuning, or [[132edo|132EDO]] with a val which is the sum of the [[patent val]]s for 31 and 101. Because 49/45 is flat of 12/11 by only 540/539, nusecond is more naturally thought of as an 11-limit temperament with a combined 12/11 and 11/10 as a generator, tempering out 99/98, 121/120 and 540/539. Because of all the neutral seconds, an exotic Middle Eastern sound comes naturally to nusecond. MOS of 15, 23, or 31 notes are enough to give fuller effect to the harmony, but the 8-note MOS might also be considered from the melodic point of view. | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | |||
[[Comma list]]: 126/125, 2430/2401 | |||
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 3 4 5 }}, {{val| 0 -11 -13 -17 }}] | |||
Mapping generators: ~2, ~49/45 | |||
{{Multival|legend=1| 11 13 17 -5 -4 3 }} | |||
[[POTE generator]]: ~49/45 = 154.579 | |||
[[ | [[Minimax tuning]]: | ||
* [[7-odd-limit]]: ~49/45 = {{monzo| 4/13 0 -1/13 }} | |||
: [{{monzo| 1 0 0 0 }}, {{monzo| -5/13 0 11/13 0 }}, {{monzo| 0 0 1 0 }}, {{monzo| -3/13 0 17/13 0 }}] | |||
: [[Eigenmonzo]]s (unchanged intervals): 2, 5 | |||
* [[9-odd-limit]]: ~49/45 = {{monzo| 3/11 -1/11 }} | |||
: [{{monzo| 1 0 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 0 1 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 5/11 13/11 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 4/11 17/11 0 0 }}] | |||
: [[Eigenmonzo]]s (unchanged intervals): 2, 3 | |||
{{Val list|legend=1| | {{Val list|legend=1| 8d, 23d, 31, 101, 132c, 163c }} | ||
[[Badness]]: 0. | [[Badness]]: 0.050389 | ||
=== 11-limit === | === 11-limit === | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
Comma list: 126/125, | Comma list: 99/98, 121/120, 126/125 | ||
Mapping: [{{val| 1 3 4 5 5 }}, {{val| 0 -11 -13 -17 -12 }}] | |||
Mapping generators: ~2, ~11/10 | |||
POTE generator: ~11/10 = 154.645 | |||
Minimax tuning: | |||
* [[11-odd-limit]]: ~11/10 = {{monzo| 1/10 -1/5 0 0 1/10 }} | |||
: [{{monzo| 1 0 0 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 19/10 11/5 0 0 -11/10 }}, {{monzo| 27/10 13/5 0 0 -13/10 }}, {{monzo| 33/10 17/5 0 0 -17/10 }}, {{monzo| 19/5 12/5 0 0 -6/5 }}] | |||
: Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 11/9 | |||
Algebraic generator: positive root of 15''x''<sup>2</sup> - 10''x'' - 7, or (5 + sqrt (130))/15, at 154.6652 cents. The recurrence converges very quickly. | |||
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| | Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 8d, 23de, 31, 101, 132ce, 163ce, 194cee }} | ||
Badness: 0. | Badness: 0.025621 | ||
=== 13-limit === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
Comma list: 126/125, | Comma list: 66/65, 99/98, 121/120, 126/125 | ||
Mapping: [{{val| 1 3 4 5 5 5 }}, {{val| 0 -11 -13 -17 -12 -10 }}] | |||
POTE generator: ~11/10 = 154.478 | |||
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 8d, 23de, 31, 70f, 101ff }} | |||
Badness: 0.023323 | |||
== Oolong == | |||
{{Main| Oolong }} | |||
: ''For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see [[High badness temperaments #Oolong]].'' | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | |||
[[Comma list]]: 126/125, 117649/116640 | |||
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 6 7 8 }}, {{val| 0 -17 -18 -20 }}] | |||
{{Multival|legend=1| 17 18 20 -11 -16 -4 }} | |||
[[POTE generator]]: ~6/5 = 311.679 | |||
{{Val list|legend=1| 27, 50, 77 }} | |||
[[Badness]]: 0.073509 | |||
=== | === 11-limit === | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, | Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 26411/26244 | ||
Mapping: [{{val| 1 | Mapping: [{{val| 1 6 7 8 18 }}, {{val| 0 -17 -18 -20 -56 }}] | ||
POTE generator: ~ | POTE generator: ~6/5 = 311.587 | ||
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| | Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 27e, 77, 104c, 181c }} | ||
Badness: 0. | Badness: 0.056915 | ||
=== 13-limit === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 196/195, | Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 196/195, 13013/12960 | ||
Mapping: [{{val| 1 6 7 8 18 5 }}, {{val| 0 -17 -18 -20 -56 -5 }}] | |||
POTE generator: ~6/5 = 311.591 | |||
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 27e, 77, 104c, 181c }} | |||
Badness: 0.035582 | |||
== Vines == | |||
: ''For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see [[High badness temperaments #Vines]].'' | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | |||
[[Comma list]]: 126/125, 84035/82944 | |||
Mapping: [{{val| | [[Mapping]]: [{{val| 2 7 8 8 }}, {{val| 0 -8 -7 -5 }}] | ||
POTE generator: ~ | [[POTE generator]]: ~6/5 = 312.602 | ||
{{Val list|legend=1| 42, 46, 96d, 142d, 238dd }} | |||
Badness: 0. | [[Badness]]: 0.078049 | ||
=== | === 11-limit === | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
Comma list: 126/125, | Comma list: 126/125, 385/384, 2401/2376 | ||
Mapping: [{{val| | Mapping: [{{val| 2 7 8 8 5 }}, {{val| 0 -8 -7 -5 4 }}] | ||
POTE generator: ~ | POTE generator: ~6/5 = 312.601 | ||
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| | Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 42, 46, 96d, 142d, 238dd }} | ||
Badness: 0. | Badness: 0.044499 | ||
== | === 13-limit === | ||
: | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
Comma list: 126/125, 196/195, 364/363, 385/384 | |||
Mapping: [{{val| 2 7 8 8 5 5 }}, {{val| 0 -8 -7 -5 4 5 }}] | |||
POTE generator: ~6/5 = 312.564 | |||
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 42, 46, 96d, 238ddf }} | |||
Badness: 0.029693 | |||
== Kumonga == | |||
: ''For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see [[High badness temperaments #Kumonga]].'' | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | |||
[[ | [[Comma list]]: 126/125, 12288/12005 | ||
{{ | [[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 4 4 3 }}, {{val| 0 -13 -9 -1 }}] | ||
{{Multival|legend=1| 13 9 1 -16 -35 -23 }} | |||
[[POTE generator]]: ~8/7 = 222.797 | |||
{{Val list|legend=1| 16, 27, 43, 70, 167ccdd }} | |||
[[Badness]]: 0.087500 | |||
=== 11-limit === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | |||
Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 864/847 | |||
Mapping: [{{val| 1 4 4 3 7 }}, {{val| 0 -13 -9 -1 -19 }}] | |||
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 222.898 | |||
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| | Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 16, 27e, 43, 70e }} | ||
Badness: 0. | Badness: 0.043336 | ||
=== 13-limit === | === 13-limit === | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
Comma list: | Comma list: 78/77, 126/125, 144/143, 176/175 | ||
Mapping: [{{val| 1 3 | Mapping: [{{val| 1 4 4 3 7 5 }}, {{val| 0 -13 -9 -1 -19 -7 }}] | ||
POTE generator: ~ | POTE generator: ~8/7 = 222.961 | ||
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| | Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 16, 27e, 43, 70e, 113cdee }} | ||
Badness: 0. | Badness: 0.028920 | ||
== Thuja == | == Thuja == | ||
Line 643: | Line 687: | ||
Badness: 0.023877 | Badness: 0.023877 | ||
== | == Casablanca == | ||
: ''For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see [[High badness temperaments # | : ''For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see [[High badness temperaments #Casablanca]].'' | ||
Aside from 126/125, casablanca tempers out the no-threes comma 823543/819200 and also 589824/588245, and may also be described as 31&73. 74\135 or 91\166 supply good tunings for the generator, and 20 and 31 note MOS are available. | |||
It may not seem like casablanca has much to offer, but peering under the hood a bit harder suggests otherwise. For one thing, the 35/24 generator is particularly interesting; like 15/14 and 21/20, it represents an interval between one vertex of a [[hexany]] and the opposite vertex, which makes it particularly simple with regard to the cubic lattice of tetrads. For another, if we add 385/384 to the list of commas, 35/24 is identified with 16/11, and casablanca is revealed as an 11-limit temperament with a very low complexity for 11 and not too high a one for 7; we might compare 1, 4, 14, 19, the generator steps to 11, 7, 5 and 3 respectively, with 1, 4, 10, 18, the steps to 3, 5, 7 and 11 in 11-limit meantone. | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | ||
[[Comma list]]: 126/125, | [[Comma list]]: 126/125, 589824/588245 | ||
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 12 10 5 }}, {{val| 0 -19 -14 -4 }}] | |||
{{Multival|legend=1| 19 14 4 -22 -47 -30 }} | |||
[[POTE generator]]: ~ | [[POTE generator]]: ~35/24 = 657.818 | ||
{{Val list|legend=1| | {{Val list|legend=1| 11b, 20b, 31, 104c, 135c, 166c }} | ||
[[Badness]]: 0. | [[Badness]]: 0.101191 | ||
=== 11-limit === | === 11-limit === | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
Comma list: 126/125, 385/384, 2401 | Comma list: 126/125, 385/384, 2420/2401 | ||
Mapping: [{{val| | Mapping: [{{val| 1 12 10 5 4 }}, {{val| 0 -19 -14 -4 -1 }}] | ||
POTE generator: ~ | POTE generator: ~16/11 = 657.923 | ||
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| | Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 11b, 20b, 31 }} | ||
Badness: 0. | Badness: 0.067291 | ||
=== 13-limit === | ==== 13-limit ==== | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
Comma list: 126/125, 196/195, | Comma list: 126/125, 196/195, 385/384, 2420/2401 | ||
Mapping: [{{val| | Mapping: [{{val| 1 12 10 5 4 7 }}, {{val| 0 -19 -14 -4 -1 -6 }}] | ||
POTE generator: ~ | POTE generator: ~16/11 = 657.854 | ||
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| | Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 11b, 20b, 31 }} | ||
=== Marrakesh === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | |||
Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 14641/14580 | |||
: | |||
Mapping: [{{val| 1 12 10 5 21 }}, {{val| 0 -19 -14 -4 -32 }}] | |||
POTE generator: ~22/15 = 657.791 | |||
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 31, 73, 104c, 135c }} | |||
Badness: 0.040539 | |||
==== 13-limit ==== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 196/195, 14641/14580 | |||
[ | Mapping: [{{val| 1 12 10 5 21 -10 }}, {{val| 0 -19 -14 -4 -32 25 }}] | ||
= | POTE generator: ~22/15 = 657.756 | ||
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 31, 73, 104c, 135c, 239ccf }} | |||
Badness: 0.040774 | |||
==== Murakuc ==== | |||
=== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
Comma list: | Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 176/175, 1540/1521 | ||
Mapping: [{{val| 1 | Mapping: [{{val| 1 12 10 5 21 7 }}, {{val| 0 -19 -14 -4 -32 -6 }}] | ||
POTE generator: ~ | POTE generator: ~22/15 = 657.700 | ||
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| | Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 31, 104cff, 135cff }} | ||
Badness: 0. | Badness: 0.041395 | ||
== Amigo == | == Amigo == | ||
Line 770: | Line 814: | ||
Badness: 0.030666 | Badness: 0.030666 | ||
== | == Supersensi == | ||
Supersensi (8d & 43) has supermajor third as a generator like [[sensi]], but the no-fives comma 17496/16807 rather than 245/243 tempered out. | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | ||
[[Comma list]]: 126/125, | [[Comma list]]: 126/125, 17496/16807 | ||
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 | [[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 -4 -4 -5 }}, {{val| 0 15 17 21 }}] | ||
{{Multival|legend=1| 17 | {{Multival|legend=1| 15 17 21 -8 -9 1 }} | ||
[[POTE generator]]: ~ | [[POTE generator]]: ~343/270 = 446.568 | ||
{{Val list|legend=1| | {{Val list|legend=1| 8d, 35, 43 }} | ||
[[Badness]]: 0. | [[Badness]]: 0.148531 | ||
=== 11-limit === | === 11-limit === | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
Comma list: 126/125, | Comma list: 99/98, 126/125, 864/847 | ||
Mapping: [{{val| 1 | Mapping: [{{val| 1 -4 -4 -5 -1 }}, {{val| 0 15 17 21 12 }}] | ||
POTE generator: ~ | POTE generator: ~72/55 = 446.616 | ||
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| | Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 8d, 35, 43 }} | ||
Badness: 0. | Badness: 0.059449 | ||
=== 13-limit === | === 13-limit === | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
Comma list: 126/125, | Comma list: 78/77, 99/98, 126/125, 144/143 | ||
Mapping: [{{val| 1 -4 -4 -5 -1 -3 }}, {{val| 0 15 17 21 12 18 }}] | |||
POTE generator: ~13/10 = 446.598 | |||
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 8d, 35f, 43 }} | |||
Badness: 0.035258 | |||
=== 17-limit === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | |||
Comma list: 78/77, 99/98, 120/119, 126/125, 144/143 | |||
Mapping: [{{val| 1 | Mapping: [{{val| 1 -4 -4 -5 -1 -3 0 }}, {{val| 0 15 17 21 12 18 11 }}] | ||
POTE generator: ~ | POTE generator: ~13/10 = 446.631 | ||
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| | Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 8d, 35f, 43 }} | ||
Badness: 0. | Badness: 0.025907 | ||
== Cobalt == | == Cobalt == |