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:::::::::: 2) The fact that you perceive this as a debate that one of us will win is telling. I do not see it that way at all. I can't understand how you could get that impression. All I'm asking is that you give people who care about this sufficient opportunity to add their voices to the discussion, so that in the end we can come up with the best solution, which may or may not be one that you or I suggest ourselves. Getting my way is not an end in itself. I just want what we end up with to be high quality, and fair. I hope that makes sense now. --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 04:00, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

consider your position to be that joining the Discord is simply "encouraged," rather I view your position as being that it is "standard protocol" to go through it before making changes. I [[User:Mike Battaglia|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Mike Battaglia|talk]]) 07:08, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

::::: I totally agree with Sintel. That's how I've always thought of it. I've never seen "&" used for the join of monzos. Can anyone point to some places on the wiki where it's used that way? In any case, what would be the harm in swapping those to "|" as in Sintel's and my scheme. Has "|" been used previously in a way that would conflict. So I'm supporting "&" for val-join, "|" for comma-join and subgroup-join. Then "&" is temperament join and "|" is temperament meet. Then "12 & 19" can be reads as vals or as temperaments, "&" works either way. [[User:Dave Keenan|Dave Keenan]] ([[User talk:Dave Keenan|talk]]) 09:06, 23 December 2021 (UTC) Dave Keenan

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:::::::: It seems like the usage you describe is somewhat extensive (at least your subgroup temperament page, https://en.xen.wiki/w/Subgroup_Temperament_Families,_Relationships,_and_Genes, as you mentioned on Facebook), but apparently not extensive enough to completely problematize our proposal. So it does make me happy that you have added & and | to the page as the predominant convention. Thank you for doing that. All my best. --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 04:00, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

::::::::: The feeling about combativeness is certainly mutual. Thanks for your assessment that I didn't use & enough to problematize your proposal. I'm not going to respond to the other post. [[User:Mike Battaglia|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Mike Battaglia|talk]]) 07:08, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

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 :::::::::: 2) The fact that you perceive this as a debate that one of us will win is telling. I do not see it that way at all. I can't understand how you could get that impression. All I'm asking is that you give people who care about this sufficient opportunity to add their voices to the discussion, so that in the end we can come up with the best solution, which may or may not be one that you or I suggest ourselves. Getting my way is not an end in itself. I just want what we end up with to be high quality, and fair. I hope that makes sense now. --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 04:00, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
+consider your position to be that joining the Discord is simply "encouraged," rather I view your position as being that it is "standard protocol" to go through it before making changes. I  [[User:Mike Battaglia|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Mike Battaglia|talk]]) 07:08, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
 ::::: I totally agree with Sintel. That's how I've always thought of it. I've never seen "&" used for the join of monzos. Can anyone point to some places on the wiki where it's used that way? In any case, what would be the harm in swapping those to "|" as in Sintel's and my scheme. Has "|" been used previously in a way that would conflict. So I'm supporting "&" for val-join, "|" for comma-join and subgroup-join. Then "&" is temperament join and "|" is temperament meet. Then "12 & 19" can be reads as vals or as temperaments, "&" works either way. [[User:Dave Keenan|Dave Keenan]] ([[User talk:Dave Keenan|talk]]) 09:06, 23 December 2021 (UTC) Dave Keenan
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 :::::::: It seems like the usage you describe is somewhat extensive (at least your subgroup temperament page, https://en.xen.wiki/w/Subgroup_Temperament_Families,_Relationships,_and_Genes, as you mentioned on Facebook), but apparently not extensive enough to completely problematize our proposal. So it does make me happy that you have added & and | to the page as the predominant convention. Thank you for doing that. All my best. --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 04:00, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
+::::::::: The feeling about combativeness is certainly mutual. Thanks for your assessment that I didn't use & enough to problematize your proposal. I'm not going to respond to the other post. [[User:Mike Battaglia|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Mike Battaglia|talk]]) 07:08, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
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