Talk:Meet and join: Difference between revisions

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:: The way I have been using & for years is as a generic "join" operator, either to join vals, such as 12p & 19p, or also to join monzos, such as 2.3.5.7 81/80 & 64/63. If you are using & to join vals then it is a "meet" of the temperament kernels, and if you are using & to join kernels then you get a "meet" of vals. It seems like your proposal wouldn't be compatible with this existing usage so I used another symbol. [[User:Mike Battaglia|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Mike Battaglia|talk]]) 22:10, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

::: Oh! Fascinating. Thanks for explaining your reasons here. I totally see your concern now. Personally, I haven't seen anyone use & to union commas/vectors like that, as in "81/80 & 64/63", but I agree my proposal would be clearly incompatible with that usage. The possibility hadn't occurred to me that Graham chose & for 5&7 = meantone not because it represented a meet of two temperaments, but rather because it represented a join of two maps, but I will ask him to clarify his thinking on that. Do you think this usage of & as a generic join/union operator is popular enough that you would dissuade others from using & for meeting temperaments and | for joining temperaments elsewhere? Or, to the best of your knowledge, is that just your personal practice? --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 22:54, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

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 :: The way I have been using & for years is as a generic "join" operator, either to join vals, such as 12p & 19p, or also to join monzos, such as 2.3.5.7 81/80 & 64/63. If you are using & to join vals then it is a "meet" of the temperament kernels, and if you are using & to join kernels then you get a "meet" of vals. It seems like your proposal wouldn't be compatible with this existing usage so I used another symbol. [[User:Mike Battaglia|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Mike Battaglia|talk]]) 22:10, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
+::: Oh! Fascinating. Thanks for explaining your reasons here. I totally see your concern now. Personally, I haven't seen anyone use & to union commas/vectors like that, as in "81/80 & 64/63", but I agree my proposal would be clearly incompatible with that usage. The possibility hadn't occurred to me that Graham chose & for 5&7 = meantone not because it represented a meet of two temperaments, but rather because it represented a join of two maps, but I will ask him to clarify his thinking on that. Do you think this usage of & as a generic join/union operator is popular enough that you would dissuade others from using & for meeting temperaments and | for joining temperaments elsewhere? Or, to the best of your knowledge, is that just your personal practice? --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 22:54, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
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