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:: Flirora is correct. I will be adding more to my article about 41edo key signatures that will clarify this a bit. I call these cancelling rules. For independent ^v, if N = natural and P = plain, ^vP doesn't cancel #bN, and #bN doesn't cancel ^vP. For dependent ^v, ^vP cancels #bN, and #bN cancels ^vP. P always cancels ^v, just like N always cancels #b. | :: Flirora is correct. I will be adding more to my article about 41edo key signatures that will clarify this a bit. I call these cancelling rules. For independent ^v, if N = natural and P = plain, ^vP doesn't cancel #bN, and #bN doesn't cancel ^vP. For dependent ^v, ^vP cancels #bN, and #bN cancels ^vP. P always cancels ^v, just like N always cancels #b. | ||
:: I personally much prefer independent ^v because it greatly reduces the clutter, especially in 41edo. Why say ^ND when you can just say ^D? I realize that's different from established practice, e.g. Saggital and HEJI. --[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 09:34, 31 July 2021 (UTC) | :: I personally much prefer independent ^v because it greatly reduces the clutter, especially in 41edo. Why say ^ND when you can just say ^D? I realize that's different from established practice, e.g. Saggital and HEJI. --[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 09:34, 31 July 2021 (UTC) | ||
::: I'm a little confused about the last thing you said. You would never need to write ^ND under the diamond-mos standard because ^/v alone already cancel #/b. In fact, I'm not including ^N in the diamond-mos template mscz I'm making, because ^ alone has the same meaning. In general, I don't think either choice is creates more or less clutter. The "independent" rule can write D# ^D# with less clutter, and the "dependent" rule can write D# ^D with less clutter. I go with the dependent rule because it's more in line with how standard 12edo accidentals already work. [[User:SupahstarSaga|SupahstarSaga]] ([[User talk:SupahstarSaga|talk]]) 15:23, 31 July 2021 (UTC) | |||