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* [[diamond nice]] range: 694.737
* [[diamond nice]] range: 694.737


Vals: {{Val list| 14cf, 19, 33cdff, 52cdf }}
Vals: {{Val list| 14cf, 19, 33cdff, 52cdff }}


Badness: 0.022503
Badness: 0.022503
Line 1,343: Line 1,343:
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7


Comma list: 81/80, 392/375
[[Comma list]]: 81/80, 392/375


Mapping: [{{val| 1 1 0 -1 }}, {{val| 0 2 8 13 }}]
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 1 0 -1 }}, {{val| 0 2 8 13 }}]


Mapping generators: ~2, ~25/21
Mapping generators: ~2, ~25/21


POTE generator: ~25/21 = 350.586
[[POTE generator]]: ~25/21 = 350.586


{{Val list|legend=1| 17c, 24, 65c, 89cd }}
{{Val list|legend=1| 7d, 17c, 24, 65cc, 89ccd }}


Badness: 0.0777
[[Badness]]: 0.077734


Scales: [[mohaha7]], [[mohaha10]]
Scales: [[mohaha7]], [[mohaha10]]
Line 1,368: Line 1,368:
POTE generator: ~11/9 = 350.565
POTE generator: ~11/9 = 350.565


{{Val list|legend=1| 17c, 24, 65c, 89cd }}
Vals: {{Val list| 7d, 17c, 24, 65cc, 89ccd }}


Badness: 0.0362
Badness: 0.036207


Scales: [[mohaha7]], [[mohaha10]]
Scales: [[mohaha7]], [[mohaha10]]
Line 1,385: Line 1,385:
POTE generator: ~11/9 = 350.745
POTE generator: ~11/9 = 350.745


{{Val list|legend=1| 17c, 24, 41c, 65c }}
Vals: {{Val list| 7d, 17c, 24, 41c, 65cc }}


Badness: 0.0287
Badness: 0.028738


Scales: [[mohaha7]], [[mohaha10]]
Scales: [[mohaha7]], [[mohaha10]]
Line 1,396: Line 1,396:
[[Comma list]]: 81/80, 5898240/5764801
[[Comma list]]: 81/80, 5898240/5764801


[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 2 1 -4 4 }}, {{val|0 4 16 3 }}]
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 2 5 12 7 }}, {{val| 0 -4 -16 -3 }}]


Mapping generators: ~2401/1728, ~343/288
Mapping generators: ~2401/1728, ~7/6


{{Multival|legend=1| 8 32 6 32 -13 -76 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 8 32 6 32 -13 -76 }}


POTE generator: ~7/6 = 275.794
[[POTE generator]]: ~7/6 = 275.794


{{Val list|legend=1| 26, 48c, 74, 174bd, 248bd }}
{{Val list|legend=1| 26, 48c, 74, 174bd, 248bbd }}


[[Badness]]: 0.2588
[[Badness]]: 0.258825


== 11-limit ==
== 11-limit ==
Line 1,413: Line 1,413:
Comma list: 81/80, 99/98, 73728/73205
Comma list: 81/80, 99/98, 73728/73205


Mapping: [{{val| 2 1 -4 4 8 }}, {{val|0 4 16 3 -2 }}]
Mapping: [{{val| 2 5 12 7 6 }}, {{val| 0 -4 -16 -3 2 }}]


Mapping generators: ~363/256, ~77/64
Mapping generators: ~363/256, ~7/6


POTE generator: ~7/6 = 275.762
POTE generator: ~7/6 = 275.762


{{Val list|legend=1| 26, 48c, 74, 248bd, 322bd }}
Vals: {{Val list| 26, 48c, 74, 248bbd, 322bbdd }}


Badness: 0.1015
Badness: 0.101499


== 13-limit ==
== 13-limit ==
Line 1,428: Line 1,428:
Comma list: 81/80, 99/98, 144/143, 2200/2197
Comma list: 81/80, 99/98, 144/143, 2200/2197


Mapping: [{{val| 2 1 -4 4 8 2 }}, {{val|0 4 16 3 -2 10 }}]
Mapping: [{{val| 2 5 12 7 6 12 }}, {{val| 0 -4 -16 -3 2 -10 }}]


Mapping generators: ~55/39, ~63/52
Mapping generators: ~55/39, ~7/6


POTE generator: ~7/6 = 275.774
POTE generator: ~7/6 = 275.774


{{Val list|legend=1| 26, 48c, 74, 174bd, 248bd, 322bd }}
Vals: {{Val list| 26, 48c, 74, 174bd, 248bbd, 322bbdd }}


Badness: 0.0535
Badness: 0.053482


= Mothra =
= Mothra =
Mothra splits the fifth into three 8/7 generators. It uses [[1029/1024]], the gamelisma, to accomplish this deed and also tempers out [[1728/1715]], the orwell comma. Using [[31edo]] with a generator of 6/31 is an excellent tuning choice. Once again something other than a MOS should be used as a scale to get the most out of mothra. In the 2.3.7-limit, mothra is identical to [[slendric]].
Mothra splits the fifth into three 8/7 generators. It uses [[1029/1024]], the gamelisma, to accomplish this deed and also tempers out [[1728/1715]], the orwell comma. Using [[31edo|31EDO]] with a generator of 6/31 is an excellent tuning choice. Once again something other than a MOS should be used as a scale to get the most out of mothra. In the 2.3.7 subgroup, mothra is identical to [[slendric]].


Note that mothra can also be called '''cynder''' in the 7-limit, which can be a little confusing sometimes.  
Note that mothra can also be called '''cynder''' in the 7-limit, which can be a little confusing sometimes.  
Line 1,450: Line 1,450:


Mapping generators: ~2, ~8/7
Mapping generators: ~2, ~8/7
{{Multival|legend=1| 3 12 -1 12 -10 -36 }}


[[POTE generator]]: ~8/7 = 232.193
[[POTE generator]]: ~8/7 = 232.193


[[Algebraic generator]]: Rabrindanath, largest real root of ''x''<sup>8</sup> - 3''x''<sup>2</sup> + 1, or 232.0774 cents.
[[Algebraic generator]]: Rabrindanath, largest real root of ''x''<sup>8</sup> - 3''x''<sup>2</sup> + 1, or 232.0774 cents.
[[Wedgie]]: {{wedgie| 3 12 -1 12 -10 -36 }}


[[Minimax tuning]]:  
[[Minimax tuning]]:  
Line 1,464: Line 1,464:
{{Val list|legend=1| 5, 26, 31 }}
{{Val list|legend=1| 5, 26, 31 }}


[[Badness]]: 0.0371
[[Badness]]: 0.037146


== 11-limit ==
== 11-limit ==
Line 1,477: Line 1,477:
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 232.031
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 232.031


{{Val list|legend=1| 5, 26, 31, 88, 150be, 181bee }}
Vals: {{Val list| 5, 26, 31, 88, 150be, 181bee }}


Badness: 0.0256
Badness: 0.025642


=== 13-limit ===
=== 13-limit ===
Line 1,492: Line 1,492:
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 231.811
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 231.811


{{Val list|legend=1| 5, 26, 31, 57, 88 }}
Vals: {{Val list| 5, 26, 31, 57, 88 }}


Badness: 0.0240
Badness: 0.023954


== Cynder ==
== Cynder ==
Line 1,507: Line 1,507:
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 231.317
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 231.317


{{Val list|legend=1| 5e, 26, 57e, 83bce }}
Vals: {{Val list| 5e, 26, 57e, 83bce }}


Badness: 0.0557
Badness: 0.055706


=== 13-limit ===
=== 13-limit ===
Line 1,520: Line 1,520:
Mapping generators: ~2, ~8/7
Mapping generators: ~2, ~8/7


POTE generator: ~8/7 = 232.293
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 231.293


{{Val list|legend=1| 5e, 26, 57e, 83bce }}
Vals: {{Val list| 5e, 26, 57e, 83bce }}


Badness: 0.0341
Badness: 0.034124


== Mosura ==
== Mosura ==
Line 1,537: Line 1,537:
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 232.419
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 232.419


{{Val list|legend=1| 31, 129, 160be, 191bce, 222bce, 253bcee }}
Vals: {{Val list| 31, 129, 160be, 191bce, 222bce, 253bcee }}


Badness: 0.0313
Badness: 0.0313
Line 1,552: Line 1,552:
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 232.640
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 232.640


{{Val list|legend=1| 31, 36, 67, 98 }}
Vals: {{Val list| 31, 36, 67, 98 }}


Badness: 0.0369
Badness: 0.036857


=== Music ===
=== Music ===
Line 1,560: Line 1,560:


= Squares =
= Squares =
Squares splits the interval of an eleventh, or 8/3, into four supermajor third ([[9/7]]) intervals, and uses it for a generator. [[31edo]], with a generator of 11/31, makes for a good squares tuning, with 8, 11, and 14 note MOS available. Squares tempers out [[2401/2400]], the breedsma, as well as [[2430/2401]].
Squares splits the interval of an eleventh, or 8/3, into four supermajor third ([[9/7]]) intervals, and uses it for a generator. [[31edo|31EDO]], with a generator of 11/31, makes for a good squares tuning, with 8, 11, and 14 note MOS available. Squares tempers out [[2401/2400]], the breedsma, as well as [[2430/2401]].


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Line 1,569: Line 1,569:


Mapping generators: ~2, ~9/7
Mapping generators: ~2, ~9/7
{{Multival|legend=1| 4 16 9 16 3 -24 }}


[[POTE generator]]: ~9/7 = 425.942
[[POTE generator]]: ~9/7 = 425.942
Line 1,581: Line 1,583:
{{Val list|legend=1| 14c, 17c, 31 }}
{{Val list|legend=1| 14c, 17c, 31 }}


[[Badness]]: 0.0460
[[Badness]]: 0.045993


Scales: [[skwares8]], [[skwares11]], [[skwares14]]
Scales: [[skwares8]], [[skwares11]], [[skwares14]]
Line 1,599: Line 1,601:
POTE generator: ~9/7 = 425.957
POTE generator: ~9/7 = 425.957


{{Val list|legend=1| 14c, 17c, 31 }}
Vals: {{Val list| 14c, 17c, 31 }}


Badness: 0.0216
Badness: 0.021636


Scales: [[skwares8]], [[skwares11]], [[skwares14]]
Scales: [[skwares8]], [[skwares11]], [[skwares14]]
Line 1,616: Line 1,618:
POTE generator: ~9/7 = 425.550
POTE generator: ~9/7 = 425.550


{{Val list|legend=1| 14c, 17c, 31, 79cf }}
Vals: {{Val list| 14c, 17c, 31, 79cf }}


Badness: 0.0255
Badness: 0.025514


Scales: [[skwares8]], [[skwares11]], [[skwares14]]
Scales: [[skwares8]], [[skwares11]], [[skwares14]]
Line 1,633: Line 1,635:
POTE generator: ~9/7 = 426.276
POTE generator: ~9/7 = 426.276


{{Val list|legend=1| 14cf, 31, 45ef, 76e }}
Vals: {{Val list| 14cf, 31, 45ef, 76e }}


Badness: 0.0245
Badness: 0.024522


Scales: [[skwares8]], [[skwares11]], [[skwares14]]
Scales: [[skwares8]], [[skwares11]], [[skwares14]]
Line 1,650: Line 1,652:
POTE generator: ~9/7 = 426.187
POTE generator: ~9/7 = 426.187


{{Val list|legend=1| 14cf, 31, 76e }}
Vals: {{Val list| 14cf, 31, 76e }}
 
Badness: 0.022573


Scales: [[skwares8]], [[skwares11]], [[skwares14]]
Scales: [[skwares8]], [[skwares11]], [[skwares14]]
Line 1,666: Line 1,670:


{{Val list|legend=1| 14cf, 31, 76e }}
{{Val list|legend=1| 14cf, 31, 76e }}
Badness: 0.018839


Scales: [[skwares8]], [[skwares11]], [[skwares14]]
Scales: [[skwares8]], [[skwares11]], [[skwares14]]
Line 1,680: Line 1,686:
POTE generator: ~9/7 = 425.993
POTE generator: ~9/7 = 425.993


{{Val list|legend=1| 14ce, 17ce, 31, 107b }}
Vals: {{Val list| 14ce, 17ce, 31, 107b, 138b, 169be, 200be }}


Badness: 0.0568
Badness: 0.056826


Scales: [[skwares8]], [[skwares11]], [[skwares14]]
Scales: [[skwares8]], [[skwares11]], [[skwares14]]
Line 1,689: Line 1,695:
<span style="display: block; text-align: right;">[[:de:Liese|Deutsch]]</span>
<span style="display: block; text-align: right;">[[:de:Liese|Deutsch]]</span>


Liese splits the twelfth interval of 3/1 into three generators of 10/7, using the comma 1029/1000. It also tempers out 686/675, the senga. [[74edo]] makes for a good liese tuning, though [[19edo]] can be used. The tuning is well-supplied with MOS: 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17, 19, 36, 55.
Liese splits the twelfth interval of 3/1 into three generators of 10/7, using the comma 1029/1000. It also tempers out 686/675, the senga. [[74edo|74EDO]] makes for a good liese tuning, though [[19edo|19EDO]] can be used. The tuning is well-supplied with MOS: 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17, 19, 36, 55.


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Line 1,698: Line 1,704:


Mapping generators: ~2, ~10/7
Mapping generators: ~2, ~10/7
{{Multival|legend=1| 3 12 11 12 9 -8 }}


[[POTE generator]]: ~10/7 = 632.406
[[POTE generator]]: ~10/7 = 632.406
Line 1,710: Line 1,718:
{{Val list|legend=1| 17c, 19, 55, 74d }}
{{Val list|legend=1| 17c, 19, 55, 74d }}


[[Badness]]: 0.0467
[[Badness]]: 0.046706


== Liesel ==
== Liesel ==
Line 1,723: Line 1,731:
POTE generator: ~10/7 = 633.073
POTE generator: ~10/7 = 633.073


{{Val list|legend=1| 17c, 19, 36, 91cee }}
Vals: {{Val list| 17c, 19, 36, 91cee }}


Badness: 0.0407
Badness: 0.040721


=== 13-limit ===
=== 13-limit ===
Line 1,740: Line 1,748:
POTE generator: ~10/7 = 633.042
POTE generator: ~10/7 = 633.042


{{Val list|legend=1| 17c, 19, 36, 91ceef }}
Vals: {{Val list| 17c, 19, 36, 91ceef }}


Badness: 0.0273
Badness: 0.027304


== Elisa ==
== Elisa ==
Line 1,749: Line 1,757:
Comma list: 77/75, 81/80, 99/98
Comma list: 77/75, 81/80, 99/98


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 -4 -3 -5 }}, {{val| 0 3 12 11 -1 16 }}]
Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 -4 -3 -5 }}, {{val| 0 3 12 11 16 }}]


Mapping generators: ~2, ~10/7
Mapping generators: ~2, ~10/7
Line 1,755: Line 1,763:
POTE generator: ~10/7 = 633.061
POTE generator: ~10/7 = 633.061


{{Val list|legend=1| 17c, 19e, 36e }}
Vals: {{Val list| 17c, 19e, 36e }}
 
Badness: 0.041592
 
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
Comma list: 66/65, 77/75, 81/80, 99/98
 
Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 -4 -3 -5 0 }}, {{val| 0 3 12 11 16 7 }}]
 
Mapping generators: ~2, ~10/7
 
POTE generator: ~10/7 = 632.991
 
Vals: {{Val list| 17c, 19e, 36e }}


Badness: 0.0416
Badness: 0.026922


== Lisa ==
== Lisa ==
Line 1,764: Line 1,787:
Comma list: 45/44, 81/80, 343/330
Comma list: 45/44, 81/80, 343/330


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 -4 -3 -6 }}, {{val| 0 3 12 11 -1 18 }}]
Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 -4 -3 -6 }}, {{val| 0 3 12 11 18 }}]


Mapping generators: ~2, ~10/7
Mapping generators: ~2, ~10/7
Line 1,770: Line 1,793:
POTE generator: ~10/7 = 631.370
POTE generator: ~10/7 = 631.370


{{Val list|legend=1| 17cee, 19 }}
Vals: {{Val list| 17cee, 19 }}


Badness: 0.0548
Badness: 0.054829


=== 13-limit ===
=== 13-limit ===
Line 1,779: Line 1,802:
Comma list: 45/44, 81/80, 91/88, 147/143
Comma list: 45/44, 81/80, 91/88, 147/143


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 -4 -3 -6 0 }}, {{val| 0 3 12 11 -1 18 7 }}]
Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 -4 -3 -6 0 }}, {{val| 0 3 12 11 18 7 }}]


Mapping generators: ~2, ~10/7
Mapping generators: ~2, ~10/7
Line 1,785: Line 1,808:
POTE generator: ~10/7 = 631.221
POTE generator: ~10/7 = 631.221


{{Val list|legend=1| 17cee, 19 }}
Vals: {{Val list| 17cee, 19 }}


Badness: 0.0361
Badness: 0.036144


= Jerome =
= Jerome =
Line 1,800: Line 1,823:
Mapping generators: ~2, ~54/49
Mapping generators: ~2, ~54/49


{{Multival|legend=1| 5 30 7 20 -3 -40 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 5 20 7 20 -3 -40 }}


[[POTE generator]]: ~54/49 = 139.343
[[POTE generator]]: ~54/49 = 139.343
Line 1,806: Line 1,829:
{{Val list|legend=1| 17c, 26, 43, 69, 112bd }}
{{Val list|legend=1| 17c, 26, 43, 69, 112bd }}


[[Badness]]: 0.1087
[[Badness]]: 0.108656


== 11-limit ==
== 11-limit ==
Line 1,819: Line 1,842:
POTE generator: ~12/11 = 139.428
POTE generator: ~12/11 = 139.428


{{Val list|legend=1| 17c, 26, 43, 69 }}
Vals: {{Val list| 17c, 26, 43, 69 }}


Badness: 0.0479
Badness: 0.047914


== 13-limit ==
== 13-limit ==
Line 1,834: Line 1,857:
POTE generator: ~12/11 = 139.387
POTE generator: ~12/11 = 139.387


{{Val list|legend=1| 17c, 26, 43, 69 }}
Vals: {{Val list| 17c, 26, 43, 69 }}


Badness: 0.0293
Badness: 0.029285


== 17-limit ==
== 17-limit ==
Line 1,849: Line 1,872:
POTE generator: ~12/11 = 139.362
POTE generator: ~12/11 = 139.362


{{Val list|legend=1| 17cg, 26, 43, 69 }}
Vals: {{Val list| 17cg, 26, 43, 69 }}


Badness: 0.0209
Badness: 0.020878


== 19-limit ==
== 19-limit ==
Line 1,858: Line 1,881:
Comma list: 78/77, 81/80, 99/98, 120/119, 135/133, 144/143
Comma list: 78/77, 81/80, 99/98, 120/119, 135/133, 144/143


Mapping: [{{val| 1 1 0 2 3 3 1 }}, {{val| 0 5 20 7 4 6 28 }}]
Mapping: [{{val| 1 1 0 2 3 3 2 1 }}, {{val| 0 5 20 7 4 6 18 28 }}]


Mapping generators: ~2, ~12/11
Mapping generators: ~2, ~12/11
Line 1,864: Line 1,887:
POTE generator: ~12/11 = 139.313
POTE generator: ~12/11 = 139.313


{{Val list|legend=1| 17cgh, 26, 43, 69 }}
Vals: {{Val list| 17cgh, 26, 43, 69 }}


Badness: 0.0182
Badness: 0.018229


= Cloudtone =
= Cloudtone =