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'''Breedsmic temperaments''' are rank two temperaments tempering out the [[breedsma]], |-5 -1 -2 4 | '''Breedsmic temperaments''' are rank two temperaments tempering out the [[breedsma]], {{monzo|-5 -1 -2 4}} = [[2401/2400]]. This is the amount by which two 49/40 intervals exceed 3/2, and by which two 60/49 intervals fall short. Either of these represent a neutral third interval which is highly characteristic of breedsmic tempering; any tuning system (12edo, for example) which does not possess a neutral third cannot be tempering out the breedsma. | ||
It is also the amount by which four stacked 10/7 intervals exceed 25/6: 10000/2401 * 2401/2400 = 10000/2400 = 25/6, which is two octaves above the chromatic semitone, 25/24. We might note also that 49/40 * 10/7 = 7/4 and 49/40 * (10/7)^2 = 5/2, relationships which will be significant in any breedsmic temperament. As a consequence of these facts, the 49/40+60/49 neutral third and the 7/5 and 10/7 intervals tend to have relatively low complexity in a breedsmic system. | It is also the amount by which four stacked 10/7 intervals exceed 25/6: 10000/2401 * 2401/2400 = 10000/2400 = 25/6, which is two octaves above the chromatic semitone, 25/24. We might note also that 49/40 * 10/7 = 7/4 and 49/40 * (10/7)^2 = 5/2, relationships which will be significant in any breedsmic temperament. As a consequence of these facts, the 49/40+60/49 neutral third and the 7/5 and 10/7 intervals tend to have relatively low complexity in a breedsmic system. | ||
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{{main|Hemififths}} | {{main|Hemififths}} | ||
Hemififths tempers out 5120/5103, the hemifamity comma, and 10976/10935, hemimage. It has a neutral third as a generator, with [[99edo|99EDO]] and [[140edo|140EDO]] providing good tunings, and [[239edo|239EDO]] an even better one; and other possible tunings are (160)^(1/25), giving just 5s, the 7 and 9 limit minimax tuning, or 14^(1/13), giving just 7s. It may be called the 41&58 temperament and has wedgie | Hemififths tempers out 5120/5103, the hemifamity comma, and 10976/10935, hemimage. It has a neutral third as a generator, with [[99edo|99EDO]] and [[140edo|140EDO]] providing good tunings, and [[239edo|239EDO]] an even better one; and other possible tunings are (160)^(1/25), giving just 5s, the 7 and 9 limit minimax tuning, or 14^(1/13), giving just 7s. It may be called the 41&58 temperament and has wedgie {{multival|2 25 13 35 15 -40}}, which tells us that it requires 25 generator steps to get to the class for major thirds, whereas the 7 is half as complex, and hence hemififths makes for a good no-fives temperament, to which the 17 and 24 note MOS are suited. The full force of this highly accurate temperament can be found using the 41 note MOS or even the 34 note 2MOS. | ||
By adding 243/242 (which also means 441/440, 540/539 and 896/891) to the commas, hemififths extends to a less accurate 11-limit version, but one where 11/4 is only five generator steps. 99EDO is an excellent tuning; one which loses little of the accuracy of the 7-limit but improves the 11-limit a bit. Now adding 144/143 brings in the 13-limit with less accuracy yet, but with very low complexity, as the generator can be taken to be 16/13. 99 remains a good tuning choice. | By adding 243/242 (which also means 441/440, 540/539 and 896/891) to the commas, hemififths extends to a less accurate 11-limit version, but one where 11/4 is only five generator steps. 99EDO is an excellent tuning; one which loses little of the accuracy of the 7-limit but improves the 11-limit a bit. Now adding 144/143 brings in the 13-limit with less accuracy yet, but with very low complexity, as the generator can be taken to be 16/13. 99 remains a good tuning choice. | ||
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{{main|Tertiaseptal}} | {{main|Tertiaseptal}} | ||
Aside from the breedsma, tertiaseptal tempers out 65625/65536, the horwell comma, 703125/702464, the meter, and 2100875/2097152, the rainy comma. It can be described as the 31&171 temperament, and 256/245, 1029/1024 less than 21/20, serves as its generator. Three of these fall short of 8/7 by 2100875/2097152, and the generator can be taken as 1/3 of an 8/7 flattened by a fraction of a cent. [[171edo]] makes for an excellent tuning. The 15 or 16 note MOS can be used to explore no-threes harmony, and the 31 note MOS gives plenty of room for those as well. | Aside from the breedsma, tertiaseptal tempers out 65625/65536, the horwell comma, 703125/702464, the meter, and 2100875/2097152, the rainy comma. It can be described as the 31&171 temperament, and 256/245, 1029/1024 less than 21/20, serves as its generator. Three of these fall short of 8/7 by 2100875/2097152, and the generator can be taken as 1/3 of an 8/7 flattened by a fraction of a cent. [[171edo|171EDO]] makes for an excellent tuning. The 15 or 16 note MOS can be used to explore no-threes harmony, and the 31 note MOS gives plenty of room for those as well. | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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= Quasiorwell = | = Quasiorwell = | ||
In addition to 2401/2400, quasiorwell tempers out 29360128/29296875 = |22 -1 -10 1 | In addition to 2401/2400, quasiorwell tempers out 29360128/29296875 = {{monzo|22 -1 -10 1}}. It has a wedgie {{multival|38 -3 8 -93 -94 27}}. It has a generator 1024/875, which is 6144/6125 more than 7/6. It may be described as the 31&270 temperament, and as one might expect, 61\270 makes for an excellent tuning choice. Other possibilities are (7/2)^(1/8), giving just 7s, or 384^(1/38), giving pure fifths. | ||
Adding 3025/3024 extends to the 11-limit and gives | Adding 3025/3024 extends to the 11-limit and gives {{multival|38 -3 8 64 ...}} for the initial wedgie, and as expected, 270 remains an excellent tuning. | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | |||
[[Comma list]]: 2401/2400, 29360128/29296875 | |||
[[Mapping]]: [{{val|1 31 0 9}}, {{val|0 -38 3 -8}}] | |||
[[POTE generator]]: ~1024/875 = 271.107 | |||
{{Val list|legend=1| 31, 177, 208, 239, 270, 571, 841, 1111 }} | |||
==11-limit== | [[Badness]]: 0.035832 | ||
== 11-limit == | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | |||
Comma list: 2401/2400, 3025/3024, 5632/5625 | |||
Mapping: [{{val|1 31 0 9 53}}, {{val|0 -38 3 -8 -64}}] | |||
POTE generator: ~90/77 = 271.111 | POTE generator: ~90/77 = 271.111 | ||
Vals: {{Val list| 31, 208, 239, 270 }} | |||
Badness: 0.017540 | |||
== 13-limit == | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Commas: 1001/1000, 1716/1715, 3025/3024, 4096/4095 | Commas: 1001/1000, 1716/1715, 3025/3024, 4096/4095 | ||
Mapping: [{{val|1 31 0 9 53 -59}}, {{val|0 -38 3 -8 -64 81}}] | |||
POTE generator: ~90/77 = 271.107 | POTE generator: ~90/77 = 271.107 | ||
Vals: {{Val list| 31, 239, 270, 571, 841, 1111 }} | |||
Badness: 0.017921 | |||
= Decoid = | |||
{{see also|Qintosec family #Decoid}} | |||
In addition to 2401/2400, decoid tempers out 67108864/66976875 to temper 15/14 into one degree of [[10edo|10 EDO]]. Either 8/7 or 16/15 can be used its generator. It may be described as the 130&270 temperament, and as one might expect, 181\940 or 233\1210 makes for an excellent tuning choice. It is also described as an extension of the [[Qintosec family|qintosec temperament]]. | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | |||
[[Comma list]]: 2401/2400, 67108864/66976875 | [[Comma list]]: 2401/2400, 67108864/66976875 | ||
[[ | [[Mapping]]: [{{val|10 0 47 36}}, {{val|0 2 -3 -1}}] | ||
{{Multival|legend=1|20 -30 -10 -94 -72 61}} | |||
[[POTE generator]]: ~8/7 = 231.099 | |||
{{ | {{Val list|legend=1| 10, 130, 270, 2020c, 2290c, 2560c, 2830bc, 3100bcc, 3370bcc, 3640bcc }} | ||
[[Badness]]: 0.033902 | [[Badness]]: 0.033902 | ||
==11-limit== | == 11-limit == | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | |||
Comma list: 2401/2400, 5832/5825, 9801/9800 | Comma list: 2401/2400, 5832/5825, 9801/9800 | ||
Mapping: [{{val|10 0 47 36 98}}, {{val|0 2 -3 -1 -8}}] | |||
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 231.070 | POTE generator: ~8/7 = 231.070 | ||
Vals: {{Val list| 10e, 130, 270, 670, 940, 1210, 2150c }} | |||
Badness: 0.018735 | |||
== 13-limit == | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 676/675, 1001/1000, 1716/1715, 4225/4224 | Comma list: 676/675, 1001/1000, 1716/1715, 4225/4224 | ||
Mapping: [{{val|10 0 47 36 98 37}}, {{val|0 2 -3 -1 -8 0}}] | |||
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 231.083 | POTE generator: ~8/7 = 231.083 | ||
Vals: {{Val list| 10e, 130, 270, 940, 1210f, 1480cf }} | |||
Badness: 0.013475 | |||
= Neominor = | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | |||
[[Comma list]]: 2401/2400, 177147/175616 | |||
[[Mapping]]: [{{val|1 3 12 8}}, {{val|0 -6 -41 -22}}] | |||
= | {{Multival|legend=1|6 41 22 51 18 -64}} | ||
POTE generator: ~189/160 = 283.280 | [[POTE generator]]: ~189/160 = 283.280 | ||
{{Val list|legend=1| 72, 161, 233, 305 }} | |||
[[Badness]]: 0.088221 | |||
== 11-limit == | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | |||
Comma list: 243/242, 441/440, 35937/35840 | |||
Mapping: [{{val|1 3 12 8 7}}, {{val|0 -6 -41 -22 -15}}] | |||
POTE generator: ~33/28 = 283.276 | |||
Vals: {{Val list| 72, 161, 233, 305 }} | |||
Badness: 0.027959 | |||
== 13-limit == | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 169/168, 243/242, 364/363, 441/440 | |||
Mapping: [{{val|1 3 12 8 7 7}}, {{val|0 -6 -41 -22 -15 -14}}] | |||
POTE generator: ~13/11 = 283.294 | POTE generator: ~13/11 = 283.294 | ||
Vals: {{Val list| 72, 161f, 233f }} | |||
Badness: 0.026942 | |||
= Emmthird = | |||
The generator for emmthird temperament is the hemimage third, sharper than 5/4 by the hemimage comma, 10976/10935. | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | |||
[[Comma list]]: 2401/2400, 14348907/14336000 | |||
[[Mapping]]: [{{val|1 -3 -17 -8}}, {{val|0 14 59 33}}] | |||
{{Multival|legend=1|14 59 33 61 13 -89}} | |||
[[POTE generator]]: ~2744/2187 = 392.988 | |||
{{Val list|legend=1| 58, 113, 171, 742, 913, 1084, 1255, 2681d, 3936d }} | |||
[[Badness]]: 0.016736 | |||
= Quinmite = | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | |||
[[Comma list]]: 2401/2400, 1959552/1953125 | |||
[[Mapping]]: [{{val|1 -7 -5 -3}}, {{val|0 34 29 23}}] | |||
{{Multival|legend=1|34 29 23 -33 -59 -28}} | |||
[[POTE generator]]: ~25/21 = 302.997 | |||
{{Val list|legend=1| 95, 99, 202, 301, 400, 701, 1101c, 1802c, 2903cc }} | |||
[[Badness]]: 0.037322 | |||
= Unthirds = | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | |||
[[Comma list]]: 2401/2400, 68359375/68024448 | |||
[[Mapping]]: [{{val|1 -13 -14 -9}}, {{val|0 42 47 34}}] | |||
= | {{Multival|legend=1|42 47 34 -23 -64 -53}} | ||
POTE generator: ~3969/3125 = 416.717 | [[POTE generator]]: ~3969/3125 = 416.717 | ||
{{Val list|legend=1| 72, 167, 239, 311, 694, 1005c }} | |||
[[Badness]]: 0.075253 | |||
== 11-limit == | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | |||
Comma list: 2401/2400, 3025/3024, 4000/3993 | |||
Map: [{{val|1 -13 -14 -9 -8}}, {{val|0 42 47 34 33}}] | |||
POTE generator: ~14/11 = 416.718 | POTE generator: ~14/11 = 416.718 | ||
Vals: {{Val list| 72, 167, 239, 311, 1316c }} | |||
Badness: 0.022926 | |||
== 13-limit == | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 625/624, 1575/1573, 2080/2079, 2401/2400 | |||
Mapping: [{{val|1 -13 -14 -9 -9 -47}}, {{val|0 42 47 34 33 146}}] | |||
POTE generator: ~14/11 = 416.716 | POTE generator: ~14/11 = 416.716 | ||
Vals: {{Val list| 72, 311, 694, 1005c, 1699cd }} | |||
Badness: 0.020888 | |||
= Newt = | |||
=Newt= | |||
Commas: 2401/2400, 33554432/33480783 | Commas: 2401/2400, 33554432/33480783 | ||
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Badness: 0.0419 | Badness: 0.0419 | ||
==11-limit== | == 11-limit == | ||
Commas: 2401/2400, 3025/3024, 19712/19683 | Commas: 2401/2400, 3025/3024, 19712/19683 | ||
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Badness: 0.0195 | Badness: 0.0195 | ||
==13-limit== | == 13-limit == | ||
Commas: 2080/2079, 2401/2400, 3025/3024, 4096/4095 | Commas: 2080/2079, 2401/2400, 3025/3024, 4096/4095 | ||
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Badness: 0.0138 | Badness: 0.0138 | ||
=Amicable= | = Amicable = | ||
{{see also| Amity family }} | {{see also| Amity family }} | ||
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Badness: 0.0455 | Badness: 0.0455 | ||
=Septidiasemi= | = Septidiasemi = | ||
Commas: 2401/2400, 2152828125/2147483648 | Commas: 2401/2400, 2152828125/2147483648 | ||
POTE generator: ~15/14 = 119.297 | POTE generator: ~15/14 = 119.297 | ||
Map: [<1 | Map: [<1 -1 6 4|, <0 26 -37 -12|] | ||
Wedgie: <<26 -37 -12 -119 -92 76|| | Wedgie: <<26 -37 -12 -119 -92 76|| | ||
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Badness: 0.0217 | Badness: 0.0217 | ||
=Cotritone= | = Cotritone = | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | |||
[[Comma list]]: 2401/2400, 390625/387072 | |||
[[Mapping]]: [{{val|1 -13 -4 -4}}, {{val|0 30 13 14}}] | |||
[[POTE generator]]: ~7/5 = 583.385 | |||
==11-limit== | {{Val list|legend=1| 35, 37, 72, 109, 181, 253 }} | ||
[[Badness]]: 0.098322 | |||
== 11-limit == | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | |||
Comma list: 385/384, 1375/1372, 4000/3993 | |||
Mapping: [{{val|1 -13 -4 -4 2}}, {{val|0 30 13 14 3}}] | |||
POTE generator: ~7/5 = 583.387 | |||
Vals: {{Val list| 35, 37, 72, 109, 181, 253 }} | |||
Badness: 0.032225 | |||
== 13-limit == | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 169/168, 364/363, 385/384, 625/624 | |||
Mapping: [{{val|1 -13 -4 -4 2 -7}}, {{val|0 30 13 14 3 22}}] | |||
POTE generator: ~7/5 = 583. | POTE generator: ~7/5 = 583.387 | ||
Vals: {{Val list| 37, 72, 109, 181f }} | |||
Badness: 0.028683 | |||
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