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::::: Ah, yes. I should fill you in. 'Bright' and 'baby' have been ditched, replaced with 'Hyper' and 'hypo'. 'Tall' and 'tiny' have been added for Tridecimal intervals after a helpful suggestion. For Oceanic intervals I'm going with 'Obtuse' and 'opaque' for now, although 'Over' and 'off' is still an option, and I'm considering after a suggestion to replace 'Up' with 'Über', so I have 'Über' and 'under', though we could make them both German and go with 'Über' and 'unter', which I kind of like actually. Yes I can follow that idea. I would argue 13 is also such a prime. I already have the same sort of ambiguities with 'Hyper' and 'hypo', wherein 13/10 is treated as an Hypermajor third, but 13/8 a type of minor sixth, and 5/4 a type of major third, and so 13/10 a type of diminished fourth. 13/10 sounds as something between a major third and a fourth and in some edos (eg. 27edo and 37edo), the diatonic major third is 13/10 (as well as 9/7 in those cases). Perhaps that's where to leave it, but I think these sorts of ambiguities will always occur, and I want an scheme that allows both possibilities in all cases. --[[User:Lhearne|Lhearne]] ([[User talk:Lhearne|talk]]) 02:17, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

:::::: Good to know. While I'm aware that these weird ambiguities will always occur, I'm currently under the impression that these issues are not as bad in the realm of the 2.3.11 subgroup in part because the discrepancies tend to occur mainly with augmented and diminished intervals and in cases where intervals akin to the Pythagorean comma are involved- these intervals tending to function more as differences between enharmonics than anything. Is that a fair assessment? --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 03:22, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

== Notation and Well-Ordered Naming Systems ==

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 ::::: Ah, yes. I should fill you in. 'Bright' and 'baby' have been ditched, replaced with 'Hyper' and 'hypo'. 'Tall' and 'tiny' have been added for Tridecimal intervals after a helpful suggestion. For Oceanic intervals I'm going with 'Obtuse' and 'opaque' for now, although 'Over' and 'off' is still an option, and I'm considering after a suggestion to replace 'Up' with 'Über', so I have 'Über' and 'under', though we could make them both German and go with 'Über' and 'unter', which I kind of like actually. Yes I can follow that idea. I would argue 13 is also such a prime. I already have the same sort of ambiguities with 'Hyper' and 'hypo', wherein 13/10 is treated as an Hypermajor third, but 13/8 a type of minor sixth, and 5/4 a type of major third, and so 13/10 a type of diminished fourth. 13/10 sounds as something between a major third and a fourth and in some edos (eg. 27edo and 37edo), the diatonic major third is 13/10 (as well as 9/7 in those cases). Perhaps that's where to leave it, but I think these sorts of ambiguities will always occur, and I want an scheme that allows both possibilities in all cases. --[[User:Lhearne|Lhearne]] ([[User talk:Lhearne|talk]]) 02:17, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
+:::::: Good to know.  While I'm aware that these weird ambiguities will always occur, I'm currently under the impression that these issues are not as bad in the realm of the 2.3.11 subgroup in part because the discrepancies tend to occur mainly with augmented and diminished intervals and in cases where intervals akin to the Pythagorean comma are involved- these intervals tending to function more as differences between enharmonics than anything.  Is that a fair assessment? --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 03:22, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 == Notation and Well-Ordered Naming Systems ==