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I hope the above accidentals make sense. I mean, I'm trying to make my approach to this whole thing as clean and straighforward as possible. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 21:25, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

: Hey, yeah definitely makes sense! I like the idea of keeping connection to the conventional quarter-tone accidentals, with the narrow and wide quarter tones, and then having a smaller arrow-like symbol for the rastma and a larger one for the syntonic I would agree is the best way to go. The accidentals actually make 159edo easier to grok. I like these for accidentals for 159edo, and maybe it's possible to generalise this system to other edos.

: I had my own ideas for accidentals with my interval-naming scheme: The accidentals associated with prefixes are built of the letter associated with the prefix (in lower case) and an arrow head pointing either up or down from the letter. In ASCII then, followed by latin characters that resemble the accidentals are (where available):

: 81/80: c^, cv; ĉ, ç

: 64/63: s^, sv; ŝ, ş

: 33/32: u^, uv; û, ų

: 1053/1024: t^, tv; ť, ț

: 416/405: b^, bv; ḃ, ḅ

: 896/891: l^, lv; ľ, ļ

: 45/44: o^, ov; ô, ǫ

: 49/48: q^, qv;

: 243/242: r^, rv; ŕ, ŗ

: This is so that accidentals are read directly as prefixes for interval names, and tied directly to JI alterations from Pythagorean.

: The actual accidentals don't look like this, with the arrow after the letter. The arrow is put at the top (^) or bottom (v) of the letter.

: Lower case is used because it looks better accidentals and also because otherwise it could be confusing for 'B' and 'C' since these are letter names. However it may be better to use 'k' for 'klassisch', instead of 'c' anyway, and something else instead of 'b'.

: It is not obvious how these accidentals may be combined into a single glyph, however ideally we wouldn't be combining accidentals anyway, though that means there would be lots of them for larger edos and it might be too many, though I didn't envisage the scheme working for large edos anyway, though it would be nice of course if that was possible. --[[User:Lhearne|Lhearne]] ([[User talk:Lhearne|talk]]) 02:46, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

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 I hope the above accidentals make sense.  I mean, I'm trying to make my approach to this whole thing as clean and straighforward as possible. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 21:25, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
+: Hey, yeah definitely makes sense! I like the idea of keeping connection to the conventional quarter-tone accidentals, with the narrow and wide quarter tones, and then having a smaller arrow-like symbol for the rastma and a larger one for the syntonic I would agree is the best way to go. The accidentals actually make 159edo easier to grok. I like these for accidentals for 159edo, and maybe it's possible to generalise this system to other edos.
+: I had my own ideas for accidentals with my interval-naming scheme: The accidentals associated with prefixes are built of the letter associated with the prefix (in lower case) and an arrow head pointing either up or down from the letter. In ASCII then, followed by latin characters that resemble the accidentals are (where available):
+: 81/80: c^, cv; ĉ, ç
+: 64/63: s^, sv; ŝ, ş
+: 33/32: u^, uv; û, ų
+: 1053/1024: t^, tv; ť, ț
+: 416/405: b^, bv; ḃ, ḅ
+: 896/891: l^, lv; ľ, ļ
+: 45/44: o^, ov; ô, ǫ
+: 49/48: q^, qv;
+: 243/242: r^, rv; ŕ, ŗ
+: This is so that accidentals are read directly as prefixes for interval names, and tied directly to JI alterations from Pythagorean.
+: The actual accidentals don't look like this, with the arrow after the letter. The arrow is put at the top (^) or bottom (v) of the letter.
+: Lower case is used because it looks better accidentals and also because otherwise it could be confusing for 'B' and 'C' since these are letter names. However it may be better to use 'k' for 'klassisch', instead of 'c' anyway, and something else instead of 'b'.
+: It is not obvious how these accidentals may be combined into a single glyph, however ideally we wouldn't be combining accidentals anyway, though that means there would be lots of them for larger edos and it might be too many, though I didn't envisage the scheme working for large edos anyway, though it would be nice of course if that was possible. --[[User:Lhearne|Lhearne]] ([[User talk:Lhearne|talk]]) 02:46, 23 February 2021 (UTC)