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:::::: Believe it or not, I'm actually willing to work with you and some of the other people involved with the SHEFKHED system to try and improve my system and the SHEFKHED system to where they're compatible, and I tend to think in some of the same terms when it comes to EDOs and the just intervals that they approximate. I do actually like the idea of prefixing the 121/64 from 243/128, and since the rastma (243/242) does have an association as a chroma to me, I think we should have a conversation about this. For starters, I think the rastma makes perfect sense when you consider it as being almost exactly one third of a meantone comma, with a stack of three rastmas only falling short of the the meantone comma by a [[parimo]], so perhaps we can use the term "triensyntonic" (from "trien-" meaing "one third", and "syntonic") to describe those relationships by means of the rastma, and of course, there's also "R" for "rastmic". If there are other temperaments that relate the rastma to the meantone comma in different ways, then we have a rastmic-syntonic equivalence continuum in just the same way that we have a [[syntonic-chromatic equivalence continuum]]. Also, for the record, the term "Alpharabian" itself was always intended to be more akin to the term "Pythagorean" in a lot of ways. Does this all make sense? --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 03:38, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

::::::: Ok yeah, cool let's see what we can come up with! I can see that we are coming from the same angle in many ways. I like the letter R for rastmic. I was looking for something to use the letter 'r' for at one stage actually. I would avoid triensyntonic as I'm already using 'T' for tridecimal, and because even though it may be almost exactly one third of the syntonic comma, this will only be true in temperaments for which the parimo is tempered out. Alteration by the rastma is not immediately as useful to me in the context that I defined by system for use, however I do like the idea of extensions for uses in more complex tunings, and since I'm having trouble with 80 and 94edo, perhaps an addition of rastmic alterations could be of use once I get above 72edo. I need to check how SHEFKHED handles 63, to see if it works for all edos of note until 72. Will look at 87 as well. Ah, I see now how alpharabian is akin to Pythagorean. Where did the name come from / how did you think of it? --[[User:Lhearne|Lhearne]] ([[User talk:Lhearne|talk]]) 04:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

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	:::::: Believe it or not, I'm actually willing to work with you and some of the other people involved with the SHEFKHED system to try and improve my system and the SHEFKHED system to where they're compatible, and I tend to think in some of the same terms when it comes to EDOs and the just intervals that they approximate. I do actually like the idea of prefixing the 121/64 from 243/128, and since the rastma (243/242) does have an association as a chroma to me, I think we should have a conversation about this. For starters, I think the rastma makes perfect sense when you consider it as being almost exactly one third of a meantone comma, with a stack of three rastmas only falling short of the the meantone comma by a [[parimo]], so perhaps we can use the term "triensyntonic" (from "trien-" meaing "one third", and "syntonic") to describe those relationships by means of the rastma, and of course, there's also "R" for "rastmic". If there are other temperaments that relate the rastma to the meantone comma in different ways, then we have a rastmic-syntonic equivalence continuum in just the same way that we have a [[syntonic-chromatic equivalence continuum]]. Also, for the record, the term "Alpharabian" itself was always intended to be more akin to the term "Pythagorean" in a lot of ways. Does this all make sense? --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 03:38, 3 February 2021 (UTC)		:::::: Believe it or not, I'm actually willing to work with you and some of the other people involved with the SHEFKHED system to try and improve my system and the SHEFKHED system to where they're compatible, and I tend to think in some of the same terms when it comes to EDOs and the just intervals that they approximate. I do actually like the idea of prefixing the 121/64 from 243/128, and since the rastma (243/242) does have an association as a chroma to me, I think we should have a conversation about this. For starters, I think the rastma makes perfect sense when you consider it as being almost exactly one third of a meantone comma, with a stack of three rastmas only falling short of the the meantone comma by a [[parimo]], so perhaps we can use the term "triensyntonic" (from "trien-" meaing "one third", and "syntonic") to describe those relationships by means of the rastma, and of course, there's also "R" for "rastmic". If there are other temperaments that relate the rastma to the meantone comma in different ways, then we have a rastmic-syntonic equivalence continuum in just the same way that we have a [[syntonic-chromatic equivalence continuum]]. Also, for the record, the term "Alpharabian" itself was always intended to be more akin to the term "Pythagorean" in a lot of ways. Does this all make sense? --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 03:38, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

			::::::: Ok yeah, cool let's see what we can come up with! I can see that we are coming from the same angle in many ways. I like the letter R for rastmic. I was looking for something to use the letter 'r' for at one stage actually. I would avoid triensyntonic as I'm already using 'T' for tridecimal, and because even though it may be almost exactly one third of the syntonic comma, this will only be true in temperaments for which the parimo is tempered out. Alteration by the rastma is not immediately as useful to me in the context that I defined by system for use, however I do like the idea of extensions for uses in more complex tunings, and since I'm having trouble with 80 and 94edo, perhaps an addition of rastmic alterations could be of use once I get above 72edo. I need to check how SHEFKHED handles 63, to see if it works for all edos of note until 72. Will look at 87 as well. Ah, I see now how alpharabian is akin to Pythagorean. Where did the name come from / how did you think of it? --[[User:Lhearne\|Lhearne]] ([[User talk:Lhearne\|talk]]) 04:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)