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:::::::::::::::::::::: It sounds like we actually have a somewhat similar stance regarding revision control for talks on this site- the only thing is that talk pages on this Wiki are those pages that are specifically designated for host such talks, where as other pages (especially the ones I'm referring to as actual articles) are not. There may not be any difference from a technical standpoint, but I'm more concerned about the designated function of the page when it comes to this. On my end, I have to admit I don't have even a proper repository in most cases, so that's on me. Also, I don't exactly keep track of Mediawiki's technical aspects as I'm not an admin. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 17:23, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

:::::::::::::::::::::: On another note, the statement I use is "for the record", not "for a record". I've done enough studies on Russian (informal studies of course) to know that the function of words like "a" and "the" in English is accounted for in Russian by the definite and indefinite forms on ~~nouns~~, with "the" corresponding to the marker on Russian's definite forms while "a" and "an" correspond to the marker on Russian's indefinite forms whenever they actually appear. Yes there's functional differences between words like "a", "an" and "the" and the markers on Russian's definite and indefinite forms- namely that in some cases, such as with Proper nouns, the word "the" isn't always needed, while "a" and "an" are only use for single objects- other functional aspects are quite similar. Just thought you might want to know. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 17:23, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

:::::::::::::::::::::: On another note, the statement I use is "for the record", not "for a record". I've done enough studies on Russian (informal studies of course) to know that the function of words like "a" and "the" in English is accounted for in Russian by the definite and indefinite forms on verbs, with "the" corresponding to the marker on Russian's definite forms while "a" and "an" correspond to the marker on Russian's indefinite forms whenever they actually appear. Yes there's functional differences between words like "a", "an" and "the" and the markers on Russian's definite and indefinite forms- namely that in some cases, such as with Proper nouns, the word "the" isn't always needed, while "a" and "an" are only use for single objects- other functional aspects are quite similar. Just thought you might want to know. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 17:23, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

::::::::::::::::::::::: Ha! Thank you for the note. What you say is perfectly true. You know, I sometimes participate in discussions over one great Russian Youtube channel devoted to English, have some involvement in linguistics, and understand such issues related to different patterns and lines of thinking in different cultures. You probably know that Russian is very complicated, highly synthetic-inflectional, and lacks articles, but article functions do exist in some strange ways. We discussed a lot of interesting and often very funny things. I'm not sure you correctly understand the expression of "article functions" in Russian. First of all, I don't know what is "indefinite form of nouns", I only understand "indefinite verb", and I think the notion "indefinite" is not even used in Russian. Article function is more typically expressed with an adjective. However, nouns also can play some role. I'll give you only some funny examples. For example, in modern jargon, people often use the moderately rude word "pepper" (or "horseradish", with the jargon use of complicated euphemism origin) meaning simply "male person". In certain contexts, one of this jargon meanings is "a man" as opposed to "the man", that is, some man, no matter who, or unknown one. There are many similar cases. Now, one funny adjective example. One day, my friend and former roommate make my guest laugh by saying in the discussion on some legal matter: "Suppose, you have some abstract wife...". I knew him better, so for me, his manner of expression was natural. Indeed, in some "cultured" communities the adjective "abstract" is used to carry just the function of the indefinite article. :-) — [[User:SAKryukov|SA]], ''Wednesday 2020 December 9, 19:04 UTC''

:::::::::::::::::::::::: Sorry, I forgot that Russian does the definite-indefinite distinction with verbs rather than nouns, but funny enough, some languages- if I recall correctly- express the definite-indefinite function on nouns rather than verbs. My mistake. Fixed in my above comment. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 19:16, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

::::::::: Also, only today I faced the problem with sound degraded with time, don't know how to reproduce; this problem was never exposed with the rest of the applications based on the same synthesis engine. That problem may take time... — [[User:SAKryukov|SA]], ''Wednesday 2020 December 9, 00:01 UTC''

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 :::::::::::::::::::::: It sounds like we actually have a somewhat similar stance regarding revision control for talks on this site- the only thing is that talk pages on this Wiki are those pages that are specifically designated for host such talks, where as other pages (especially the ones I'm referring to as actual articles) are not.  There may not be any difference from a technical standpoint, but I'm more concerned about the designated function of the page when it comes to this.  On my end, I have to admit I don't have even a proper repository in most cases, so that's on me.  Also, I don't exactly keep track of Mediawiki's technical aspects as I'm not an admin. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 17:23, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
-:::::::::::::::::::::: On another note, the statement I use is "for the record", not "for a record".  I've done enough studies on Russian (informal studies of course) to know that the function of words like "a" and "the" in English is accounted for in Russian by the definite and indefinite forms on nouns, with "the" corresponding to the marker on Russian's definite forms while "a" and "an" correspond to the marker on Russian's indefinite forms whenever they actually appear.  Yes there's functional differences between words like "a", "an" and "the" and the markers on Russian's definite and indefinite forms- namely that in some cases, such as with Proper nouns, the word "the" isn't always needed, while "a" and "an" are only use for single objects- other functional aspects are quite similar.  Just thought you might want to know. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 17:23, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
+:::::::::::::::::::::: On another note, the statement I use is "for the record", not "for a record".  I've done enough studies on Russian (informal studies of course) to know that the function of words like "a" and "the" in English is accounted for in Russian by the definite and indefinite forms on verbs, with "the" corresponding to the marker on Russian's definite forms while "a" and "an" correspond to the marker on Russian's indefinite forms whenever they actually appear.  Yes there's functional differences between words like "a", "an" and "the" and the markers on Russian's definite and indefinite forms- namely that in some cases, such as with Proper nouns, the word "the" isn't always needed, while "a" and "an" are only use for single objects- other functional aspects are quite similar.  Just thought you might want to know. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 17:23, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 ::::::::::::::::::::::: Ha! Thank you for the note. What you say is perfectly true. You know, I sometimes participate in discussions over one great Russian Youtube channel devoted to English, have some involvement in linguistics, and understand such issues related to different patterns and lines of thinking in different cultures. You probably know that Russian is very complicated, highly synthetic-inflectional, and lacks articles, but article functions do exist in some strange ways. We discussed a lot of interesting and often very funny things. I'm not sure you correctly understand the expression of "article functions" in Russian. First of all, I don't know what is "indefinite form of nouns", I only understand "indefinite verb", and I think the notion "indefinite" is not even used in Russian. Article function is more typically expressed with an adjective. However, nouns also can play some role. I'll give you only some funny examples. For example, in modern jargon, people  often use the moderately rude word "pepper" (or "horseradish", with the jargon use of complicated euphemism origin) meaning simply "male person". In certain contexts, one of this jargon meanings is "a man" as opposed to "the man", that is, some man, no matter who, or unknown one. There are many similar cases. Now, one funny adjective example. One day, my friend and former roommate make my guest laugh by saying in the discussion on some legal matter: "Suppose, you have some abstract wife...". I knew him better, so for me, his manner of expression was natural. Indeed, in some "cultured" communities the adjective "abstract" is used to carry just the function of the indefinite article. :-) &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:SAKryukov|SA]],&nbsp;''Wednesday&nbsp;2020&nbsp;December&nbsp;9,&nbsp;19:04&nbsp;UTC''
+:::::::::::::::::::::::: Sorry, I forgot that Russian does the definite-indefinite distinction with verbs rather than nouns, but funny enough, some languages- if I recall correctly- express the definite-indefinite function on nouns rather than verbs.  My mistake.  Fixed in my above comment. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 19:16, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 ::::::::: Also, only today I faced the problem with sound degraded with time, don't know how to reproduce; this problem was never exposed with the rest of the applications based on the same synthesis engine. That problem may take time... &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:SAKryukov|SA]],&nbsp;''Wednesday&nbsp;2020&nbsp;December&nbsp;9,&nbsp;00:01&nbsp;UTC''