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::::::: For the record: you misread me here. I was afraid of being offensive not because of thinking highly of this piece, but because of feeling not so impressed by all other pieces — sorry. Indeed, I think that I heard enough of thins giving similar impressions, but only  “Folly of a Drunk” is so special. — [[User:SAKryukov|SA]], ''Tuesday 2020 December 1, 07:03 UTC''
::::::: For the record: you misread me here. I was afraid of being offensive not because of thinking highly of this piece, but because of feeling not so impressed by all other pieces — sorry. Indeed, I think that I heard enough of thins giving similar impressions, but only  “Folly of a Drunk” is so special. — [[User:SAKryukov|SA]], ''Tuesday 2020 December 1, 07:03 UTC''
:::::::: Ah.  I realise that a lot of my work is sci-fi, but I hope there's still interesting things about "Space Tour" in particular once that gets done. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 07:19, 1 December 2020 (UTC)


::::: Besides, the name... I thought that the name of this piece is a kind of allusion to the original name of one Bruegel's painting, "The Folly of the World", and, weirdly, the motive of this piece reminded me of this painting. What? Is it just my fantasy? — [[User:SAKryukov|SA]], ''Tuesday 2020 December 1, 01:40 UTC''
::::: Besides, the name... I thought that the name of this piece is a kind of allusion to the original name of one Bruegel's painting, "The Folly of the World", and, weirdly, the motive of this piece reminded me of this painting. What? Is it just my fantasy? — [[User:SAKryukov|SA]], ''Tuesday 2020 December 1, 01:40 UTC''
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::::: Hm... I happened to read about this phenomenon but never faced such people. Anyway, from what I understand about it (and the references you've provided only confirmed my understanding), the "struggle" is not with the abstraction itself (abstraction is a fundamental trait of any cognitive activity), but only with the communication about abstractions, simply put, solving the problem of the choice of one of the possible meaning of the word, more specific vs. more general/abstract. In this particular case, I responded that 1) you recognized my implied meaning of schema correctly, 2) my construct "schema has a very abstract meaning" simply means that it does not have to be understood in any specific way, but only works as a generalization placeholder for the next part of the sentence, 3) its implied meaning is disclosed by the words "which intervals or chains come to the comma", 4) and the abstraction could be reduced the adding to these words "or something like that". I'm not sure if I made it clearer, but if not, this is not so important, because you already grasped the correct meaning anyway. — [[User:SAKryukov|SA]], ''Tuesday 2020 December 1, 05:35 UTC''
::::: Hm... I happened to read about this phenomenon but never faced such people. Anyway, from what I understand about it (and the references you've provided only confirmed my understanding), the "struggle" is not with the abstraction itself (abstraction is a fundamental trait of any cognitive activity), but only with the communication about abstractions, simply put, solving the problem of the choice of one of the possible meaning of the word, more specific vs. more general/abstract. In this particular case, I responded that 1) you recognized my implied meaning of schema correctly, 2) my construct "schema has a very abstract meaning" simply means that it does not have to be understood in any specific way, but only works as a generalization placeholder for the next part of the sentence, 3) its implied meaning is disclosed by the words "which intervals or chains come to the comma", 4) and the abstraction could be reduced the adding to these words "or something like that". I'm not sure if I made it clearer, but if not, this is not so important, because you already grasped the correct meaning anyway. — [[User:SAKryukov|SA]], ''Tuesday 2020 December 1, 05:35 UTC''
:::::: Hm... seeing as that's the case, I can tell you about my reasonings for the name of each of the commas I've mentioned if that's alright with you... --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 07:19, 1 December 2020 (UTC)


::: Oh, great! Huygens-Fokker Foundation's list of intervals you referenced in the first paragraph of this section. It can help me to explain to you what is that very characteristic of communication problems I can see in the musicians. In the list, you can see the set of rational-number intervals and some names. Hopefully, all rational numbers in the list are irreducible fractions. What information does this page carry? Next to nothing. The only possible use is this: when you already got some interval from some other source, say, from your own calculation, you can check up: is it one of the well-known intervals or not, and, if it is, what is its well-known name? Even this information has some uncertainty, because, strictly speaking, "well-known" is something uncertain, so the only definitive information you get is this: is my interval on the Huygens-Fokker Foundation's list? :-). And yes, this is exactly what you've checked in this case. You cannot learn anything about any of the concrete commas from this page. For the contrast example, look at any good Wikipedia page. Sometimes you can start from some reference and end up with the study of an entire field of science... — [[User:SAKryukov|SA]], ''Tuesday 2020 December 1, 02:06 UTC''
::: Oh, great! Huygens-Fokker Foundation's list of intervals you referenced in the first paragraph of this section. It can help me to explain to you what is that very characteristic of communication problems I can see in the musicians. In the list, you can see the set of rational-number intervals and some names. Hopefully, all rational numbers in the list are irreducible fractions. What information does this page carry? Next to nothing. The only possible use is this: when you already got some interval from some other source, say, from your own calculation, you can check up: is it one of the well-known intervals or not, and, if it is, what is its well-known name? Even this information has some uncertainty, because, strictly speaking, "well-known" is something uncertain, so the only definitive information you get is this: is my interval on the Huygens-Fokker Foundation's list? :-). And yes, this is exactly what you've checked in this case. You cannot learn anything about any of the concrete commas from this page. For the contrast example, look at any good Wikipedia page. Sometimes you can start from some reference and end up with the study of an entire field of science... — [[User:SAKryukov|SA]], ''Tuesday 2020 December 1, 02:06 UTC''