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:::::::::::: No. There are multiple ''rational'' intervals that are called [[tritone|tritones]]- see [[45/32]] and [[64/45]] for just two examples, or at least that's the case in English (I assume Russian has different names for intervals). That said, the specific √2/1 tritone- the half-octave, as I'm referring to it here- is definitely a special kind of tritione and is indeed very fundamental in both modern and not-so-modern music. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 04:30, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

::::::::::::: Than on what basis 45/32 or 64/45 could be called 3-tone anywhere? How widespread these terms could be and what would be the rationale behind the idea to use the same name for different things? I personally don't use something only because it is used in some books or it is taught in some school, I only can agree or disagree to use some terms on some more or less rational considerations...

:::::::::: Perhaps I should start making more samples to demonstrate more of the kinds of structures where pitches related to the tonic by 11/8 and 16/11 prove to be very important. If you learn the way you say you do, then I suppose it's only fitting for you to have more of these kinds of samples, as I'm discovering that "Folly of a Drunk" only scratches the surface of what 11/8 and 16/11 are capable of. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 02:21, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

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:::::::::::: At the end of the day, it is because of the Pythagorean Diatonic Scale's connections to the 3 prime that I would recommend we use it as one of the things we build our notation system off of. It may be true that we need to extend this chain of Pythagorean fifths out to where we have a chain of twenty-six pitches related by 3/2 fifths on either side of the starting pitch, but still. For the record, I should also point out that the modern notation seems to have strong connections with the steps in the diatonic scale, and, given all the stuff I've already said about the Pythagorean Diatonic Scale in particular, well, I ''think'' I've managed to recover some of the ''real'' reasoning behind it. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 05:13, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

::::::::::::: Okay, it looks like I pretty much failed to conduct the idea. I have to think before I could try again...

:::::: For the record, if you're interested in advancing your research on Just Intonation, you might want to check out what I'm doing for [[Alpharabian tuning]]. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 21:45, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

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 :::::::::::: No.  There are multiple ''rational'' intervals that are called [[tritone|tritones]]- see [[45/32]] and [[64/45]] for just two examples, or at least that's the case in English (I assume Russian has different names for intervals).  That said, the specific √2/1 tritone- the half-octave, as I'm referring to it here- is definitely a special kind of tritione and is indeed very fundamental in both modern and not-so-modern music. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 04:30, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
+::::::::::::: Than on what basis 45/32 or 64/45 could be called 3-tone anywhere? How widespread these terms could be and what would be the rationale behind the idea to use the same name for different things? I personally don't use something only because it is used in some books or it is taught in some school, I only can agree or disagree to use some terms on some more or less rational considerations...
 :::::::::: Perhaps I should start making more samples to demonstrate more of the kinds of structures where pitches related to the tonic by 11/8 and 16/11 prove to be very important.  If you learn the way you say you do, then I suppose it's only fitting for you to have more of these kinds of samples, as I'm discovering that "Folly of a Drunk" only scratches the surface of what 11/8 and 16/11 are capable of. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 02:21, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
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 :::::::::::: At the end of the day, it is because of the Pythagorean Diatonic Scale's connections to the 3 prime that I would recommend we use it as one of the things we build our notation system off of.  It may be true that we need to extend this chain of Pythagorean fifths out to where we have a chain of twenty-six pitches related by 3/2 fifths on either side of the starting pitch, but still.  For the record, I should also point out that the modern notation seems to have strong connections with the steps in the diatonic scale, and, given all the stuff I've already said about the Pythagorean Diatonic Scale in particular, well, I ''think'' I've managed to recover some of the ''real'' reasoning behind it. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 05:13, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
+::::::::::::: Okay, it looks like I pretty much failed to conduct the idea. I have to think before I could try again...
 :::::: For the record, if you're interested in advancing your research on Just Intonation, you might want to check out what I'm doing for [[Alpharabian tuning]]. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 21:45, 24 November 2020 (UTC)