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!Degree
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!Cents
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!Aaron's Answer
![[Extra-Diatonic Intervals|Igs' Input]]
![[Extra-Diatonic Intervals|Igs' Input]]
!Kite's Correction
!Keenan Category
!Keenan Category
!Kite's Colours
!Margo's Method
!Margo's Method
!SagiSpeak
!SagiSpeak
!Aaron's Answer
!Ups and a-downs
!Ups and a-downs
!Gareth's Go
!Gareth's Go
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|0
|0
|0
|0
|P1
|Unison
|Unison
|Unison
|P1
|P1
|w1
|Unison
|Unison
|P1
|P1
|P1
|P1, m2
|P1
|P1
|P1
|1/1
|1/1
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|1
|1
|80
|80
|m2
|Subminor 2nd
|Subminor 2nd
|Subminor 2nd
|m2
|m2
|g2
|Minor 2nd
|Minor 2nd
|pai-P1
|pai-P1
|m2
|^1, ^m2
|^P1
|m2
|m2
|25/24, 21/20, 16/15
|25/24, 21/20, 16/15
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|2
|2
|160
|160
|NM2 (Narrow M2)
|Neutral 2nd
|Neutral 2nd
|Neutral 2nd
|M2
|M2
|y2
|Large Neutral 2nd
|Large Neutral 2nd
|pao-M2
|pao-M2
|NM2 (Narrow M2)
|vM2
|vM2
|M2
|M2
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|3
|3
|240
|240
|LM2
|Supermajor 2nd
|Supermajor 2nd
|Supermajor 2nd
|A2/d3
|A2/d3
|w2
|Large Major 2nd
|Large Major 2nd
|M2
|M2
|LM2
|M2, m3
|M2
|Serd*
|Serd*
|8/7, 7/6, 9/8
|8/7, 7/6, 9/8
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|4
|4
|320
|320
|Lm3
|Minor 3rd
|Minor 3rd
|Minor 3rd
|m3
|m3
|g3
|Large Minor 3rd
|Large Minor 3rd
|pai-m3
|pai-m3
|Lm3
|^m3
|^m3
|m3
|m3
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|5
|5
|400
|400
|M3
|Major 3rd
|Major 3rd
|Major 3rd
|M3
|M3
|y3
|Major 3rd
|Major 3rd
|pao-M3
|pao-M3
|M3
|vM3
|vM3
|M3
|M3
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|6
|6
|480
|480
|S4 (Small 4)
|Sub 4th
|Sub 4th
|Sub 4th
|P4
|P4
|w4
|Small Perfect 4th
|Small Perfect 4th
|P4
|P4
|S4 (Small 4)
|M3, P4, d5
|P4
|P4
|P4
|4/3, 9/7, 21/16
|4/3, 9/7, 21/16
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|7
|7
|560
|560
|Na4/Sd5
|Narrow Tritone
|Narrow Tritone
|Super 4th
|A4
|A4
|zg5
|Small Tritone
|Small Tritone
|pai-P4
|pai-P4
|Na4/Sd5
|^4, ^d5
|^P4
|A4
|A4
|11/8, 7/5
|11/8, 7/5
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|8
|8
|640
|640
|La4/Wd5
|Wide Tritone
|Wide Tritone
|Sub 5th
|d5
|d5
|ry4
|Large Tritone
|Large Tritone
|pao-P5
|pao-P5
|La4/Wd5
|vA4, v5
|vP5
|d5
|d5
|16/11, 10/7
|16/11, 10/7
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|9
|9
|720
|720
|L5
|Super 5th
|Super 5th
|Super 5th
|P5
|P5
|w5
|Large Perfect 5th
|Large Perfect 5th
|P5
|P5
|L5
|A4, P5, m6
|P5
|P5
|P5
|3/2, 14/9, 32/21
|3/2, 14/9, 32/21
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|10
|800
|800
|m6
|Minor 6th
|Minor 6th
|Minor 6th
|m6
|m6
|g6
|Minor 6th
|Minor 6th
|pai-m6
|pai-m6
|m6
|^5, ^m6
|^m6
|m6
|m6
|8/5, 11/7
|8/5, 11/7
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|11
|11
|880
|880
|SM6
|Major 6th
|Major 6th
|Major 6th
|M6
|M6
|y6
|Small Major 6th
|Small Major 6th
|pao-M6
|pao-M6
|SM6
|vA5, vM6
|vM6
|M6
|M6
|5/3, 18/11
|5/3, 18/11
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|12
|12
|960
|960
|SM7
|Subminor 7th
|Subminor 7th
|Subminor 7th
|A6/d7
|A6/d7
|w7
|Small Minor 7th
|Small Minor 7th
|m7
|m7
|SM7
|M6, m7
|m7
|Sinth*
|Sinth*
|7/4, 12/7, 16/9
|7/4, 12/7, 16/9
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|13
|13
|1040
|1040
|Wm7
|Neutral 7th
|Neutral 7th
|Neutral 7th
|m7
|m7
|g7
|Small Neutral 7th
|Small Neutral 7th
|pai-m7
|pai-m7
|Wm7
|^m7
|^m7
|m7
|m7
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|14
|1120
|1120
|M7
|Supermajor 7th
|Supermajor 7th
|Supermajor 7th
|M7
|M7
|y7
|Major 7th
|Major 7th
|pao-P8
|pao-P8
|M7
|vM7, v8
|vP8
|M7
|M7
|48/25, 40/21, 15/8
|48/25, 40/21, 15/8
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|15
|15
|1200
|1200
|P8
|Octave
|Octave
|Octave
|P8
|P8
|w8
|Octave
|Octave
|P8
|P8
|P8
|M7, P8
|P8
|P8
|P8
|2/1
|2/1

Revision as of 03:54, 29 September 2018

Degree Cents Aaron's Answer Igs' Input Kite's Correction Keenan Category Margo's Method SagiSpeak Ups and a-downs Gareth's Go Represented Ratios
0 0 P1 Unison Unison P1 Unison P1 P1, m2 P1 1/1
1 80 m2 Subminor 2nd Subminor 2nd m2 Minor 2nd pai-P1 ^1, ^m2 m2 25/24, 21/20, 16/15
2 160 NM2 (Narrow M2) Neutral 2nd Neutral 2nd M2 Large Neutral 2nd pao-M2 vM2 M2 11/10, 12/11, 10/9
3 240 LM2 Supermajor 2nd Supermajor 2nd A2/d3 Large Major 2nd M2 M2, m3 Serd* 8/7, 7/6, 9/8
4 320 Lm3 Minor 3rd Minor 3rd m3 Large Minor 3rd pai-m3 ^m3 m3 6/5, 11/9
5 400 M3 Major 3rd Major 3rd M3 Major 3rd pao-M3 vM3 M3 5/4, 14/11
6 480 S4 (Small 4) Sub 4th Sub 4th P4 Small Perfect 4th P4 M3, P4, d5 P4 4/3, 9/7, 21/16
7 560 Na4/Sd5 Narrow Tritone Super 4th A4 Small Tritone pai-P4 ^4, ^d5 A4 11/8, 7/5
8 640 La4/Wd5 Wide Tritone Sub 5th d5 Large Tritone pao-P5 vA4, v5 d5 16/11, 10/7
9 720 L5 Super 5th Super 5th P5 Large Perfect 5th P5 A4, P5, m6 P5 3/2, 14/9, 32/21
10 800 m6 Minor 6th Minor 6th m6 Minor 6th pai-m6 ^5, ^m6 m6 8/5, 11/7
11 880 SM6 Major 6th Major 6th M6 Small Major 6th pao-M6 vA5, vM6 M6 5/3, 18/11
12 960 SM7 Subminor 7th Subminor 7th A6/d7 Small Minor 7th m7 M6, m7 Sinth* 7/4, 12/7, 16/9
13 1040 Wm7 Neutral 7th Neutral 7th m7 Small Neutral 7th pai-m7 ^m7 m7 20/11, 11/6, 9/5
14 1120 M7 Supermajor 7th Supermajor 7th M7 Major 7th pao-P8 vM7, v8 M7 48/25, 40/21, 15/8
15 1200 P8 Octave Octave P8 Octave P8 M7, P8 P8 2/1

*'Serd' and 'Sinth' are Portmanteaux of Second and Third; and Sixth and Seventh respectively. These intervals represent exact half Perfect 4ths and Perfect 5ths, and replace the "regular" interval name. I have put them in there to gain functionality at the cost of losing familiarity/introducing novelty in addition to 'HO', the half-octave. My (Gareth's) system at this stage is the same as Dave Keenan's but for the addition of these. I suppose they could just be optional additional names for those steps. I was led to this after not finding any reason to change Dave's system, but not liking that it led to A2/d3 for the 240c interval in 5n-edos, and A6/d7 for the 960c interval. Seems weird.

Sagi-Speak, Ups and Downs, and Colours are all great, but are completely new ideas that can be linked to on the pages. Sagi-Speak and Ups are directly linked to the two main options for notation.

I like Igs' and Dave's systems the best I think. They are very different. Both are 'size' based rather than 'function', but the point of reference for Igs' is 12edo, which would be more familiar to new readers. Dave's uses JI / 72edo alterations two short chains of the edos best fifth - giving the perfect and neutral intervals, so is malleable in it's application to edos, and more able to reflect the 'function' of the intervals in an edo. I've added a few functional labels to it. Might be best to have those in brackets. At this stage I would like to see both on every edo page. Igs' has a point that his extra-diatonic names need not or perhaps should not be associated with ratios. Dave's on the other hand benifit from such an association. Perhaps an edo page could start with Igs' in the intervals section without ratios as he first edits, and in the temperament section Dave's names can be included.

I've done this for 72edo as well.