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[[#Sensible|Sensible]] is a less sparse subgroup extension present in smaller edo tunings like [[111edo]] at the cost of a little accuracy. [[#Sendai|Sendai]] is more accurate but the subgroup is more sparse. Combining both with 2.3.5.7.13-subgroup sensi (called sensation) yields a high-limit temperament that is very constrained in tuning, for which [[65edo]] is an approximate tuning.
[[#Sensible|Sensible]] is a less sparse subgroup extension present in smaller edo tunings like [[111edo]] at the cost of a little accuracy. [[#Sendai|Sendai]] is more accurate but the subgroup is more sparse. Combining both with 2.3.5.7.13-subgroup sensi (called sensation) yields a high-limit temperament that is very constrained in tuning, for which [[65edo]] is an approximate tuning.


=== Sensible ===
{{See also| Sensipent #Sensible interval table }}
Sensible is an extension of sensipent with prime 11 of dubious canonicity but significantly higher accuracy than [[sensi]]. It interprets the generator as [[165/128]]~[[128/99]] by tempering out [[8019/8000]] so that [[11/8]] is reached as ([[10/9]])<sup>3</sup>. This extension is very strong as supported by the [[optimal ET sequence]] going very far and as supported by another observation that it also tempers out the [[semiporwellisma]], which is equal to [[S-expression|S31⋅S32<sup>2</sup>]] (thus forming the S-expression-based comma list). The vanish of the semiporwellisma, a [[lopsided comma]], implies that this temperament equates ([[33/32]])<sup>2</sup> with [[16/15]] as well as that a natural extension to prime 31 exists through {[[961/960]] ({{s|31}}), [[1024/1023]] ({{s|32}})}, which we will see is very accurate, but this itself suggests that an extension with prime 17 is reasonably accurate through tempering out [[1089/1088]] ({{s|33}}) so that a slightly sharp ~[[22/17]] is equated with the generator.
The aforementioned extension with prime 17 through tempering out 1089/1088 implies tempering out [[256/255]] ({{s|16}}), as {{nowrap| 256/255 {{=}} (22/17)/(165/128) }}.
Sensible uses the accurate mapping of prime 31 in sensipent, so that the sensible generator serves many roles in subgroup harmony, but it is not ~[[9/7]] or ~[[13/10]] which would incur more damage. Its [[S-expression]]-based comma list {{nowrap| is {([[8019/8000|S9/S10]], [[256/255|S16]],) [[529/528|S23]], [[576/575|S24]], [[961/960|S31]], [[1024/1023|S32]], [[1089/1088|S33]]} }} implying also tempering out [[496/495]] (S31⋅S32) and [[528/527]] (S32⋅S33) as well as [[16337/16335]] (S31/S33) = ([[17/15]])/([[33/31]])<sup>2</sup>. A notable [[patent val]] tuning not appearing in the optimal ET sequence is [[157edo]]. A notable non-patent val is [[84edo|84g]].
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11
Comma list: 8019/8000, 16384/16335
Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 9 | 0 7 9 -15 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~128/99
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.6725{{c}}, ~128/99 = 443.0183{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~128/99 = 443.1341{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 46, 65, 176, 241, 306 }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.728
==== 2.3.5.11.17 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11.17
Comma list: 256/255, 1089/1088, 1377/1375
Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 9 10 | 0 7 9 -15 -16 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~22/17
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.5016{{c}}, ~22/17 = 443.0038{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~22/17 = 443.1878{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 46, 65, 111, 176g }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.639
==== 2.3.5.11.17.23 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11.17.23
Comma list: 256/255, 576/575, 1089/1088, 1377/1375
Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 9 10 6 | 0 7 9 -15 -16 -4 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.6207{{c}}, ~22/17 = 443.0400{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~22/17 = 443.1808{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 46, 65, 111, 176g }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.555
==== 2.3.5.11.17.23.31 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11.17.23.31
Comma list: 256/255, 576/575, 961/960, 1089/1088, 1377/1375
Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 9 10 6 2 | 0 7 9 -15 -16 -4 8 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.6623{{c}}, ~22/17 = 443.0616{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~22/17 = 443.1858{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 46, 65, 111, 176g }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.490
=== Overview to extensions ===
==== Full 7-limit extensions ====
==== Full 7-limit extensions ====
The second comma of the comma list determines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Sensi adds [[126/125]]. Sensei adds [[225/224]]. Warrior adds [[5120/5103]]. These are all strong extensions that use the same period and generator as sensipent.  
The second comma of the comma list determines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Sensi adds [[126/125]]. Sensei adds [[225/224]]. Warrior adds [[5120/5103]]. These are all strong extensions that use the same period and generator as sensipent.