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:: It should hopefully be obvious from this expression that what it is measuring is in terms of steps of ''x'' equal temperament (because "(near-)perfectly in tune" means the cosine in the numerator evaluates to (nearly) 1 and "(near-)perfectly out of tune" means it evaluates to (nearly) -1), which we can confirm by noticing that the unaltered zeta graph has its record peaks grow very slowly/subtly, which should intuitively make sense: if you are measuring by cosine, for every interval that's in there's gonna be an interval that's out; you can't beat this, you can only try to prioritise the intervals that are lower complexity, and even that only works to a slight extent (as is evident from the flatness of the graph). | :: It should hopefully be obvious from this expression that what it is measuring is in terms of steps of ''x'' equal temperament (because "(near-)perfectly in tune" means the cosine in the numerator evaluates to (nearly) 1 and "(near-)perfectly out of tune" means it evaluates to (nearly) -1), which we can confirm by noticing that the unaltered zeta graph has its record peaks grow very slowly/subtly, which should intuitively make sense: if you are measuring by cosine, for every interval that's in there's gonna be an interval that's out; you can't beat this, you can only try to prioritise the intervals that are lower complexity, and even that only works to a slight extent (as is evident from the flatness of the graph). | ||
:: If we divide by ''n'', then we would get a very strange graph that as far as I can tell doesn't make any sense, because the "valleys in error" (which here, because of the sign flip, are peaks) would become smaller and smaller (regardless of the sign flip), so how would you even tell what a record is? ( | :: If we divide by ''n'', then we would get a very strange graph that as far as I can tell doesn't make any sense, because the "valleys in error" (which here, because of the sign flip, are peaks) would become smaller and smaller (regardless of the sign flip), so how would you even tell what a record is? (If you apply this reasoning correctly to something based on 1 - cos(2pi x) (like the previous step in Gene's derivation), then you get something fairly different, which ''would'' be a relative error score, because it'd always be strictly positive (except for at 0 equal temperament).) | ||
:: In other words, what zeta gives is a kind of "score" to an EDO based on contributions of prime power harmonics as being in- and out-of-tune, and this score is | :: In other words, what zeta gives is a kind of "score" to an EDO based on contributions of prime power harmonics as being in- and out-of-tune, and this score is relative to its step size, therefore it seems to me that the correct alteration must be to multiply by the EDO, because that corresponds exactly to how much of an advantage (in terms of maximum cent error) a larger EDO necessarily has over a smaller one. | ||
:: Also, zeta contains a lot of interesting tuning information which is basically completely absent in the main lists because of being purely in terms of relative error and only looking at strict records. | :: Also, zeta contains a lot of interesting tuning information which is basically completely absent in the main lists because of being purely in terms of relative error and only looking at strict records. | ||