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At first glance, it would appear that the concept of telicity and having a circle are identical, however they are not upon closer inspection of their definitions: a circle concerns any rational interval with respect to closing at some ''equave'', while telicity (usually) concerns primes. (The case where telicity does not refer to primes is dealt with in [[#Vs. subgroup telicity]].) This means that "closure" is usually concerning being closed w.r.t. a psychoacoustic equave — by default the [[octave]], while telicity allows closing w.r.t. any prime (hence any [[equave]]) ''up to octave-reduction'', so is conceptualised differently. In other words, consistent circles concern closure of some rational w.r.t. the equave while telicity concerns reliability of connection between generators.
At first glance, it would appear that the concept of telicity and having a circle are identical, however they are not upon closer inspection of their definitions: a circle concerns any rational interval with respect to closing at some ''equave'', while telicity (usually) concerns primes. (The case where telicity does not refer to primes is dealt with in [[#Vs. subgroup telicity]].) This means that "closure" is usually concerning being closed w.r.t. a psychoacoustic equave — by default the [[octave]], while telicity allows closing w.r.t. any prime (hence any [[equave]]) ''up to octave-reduction'', so is conceptualised differently. In other words, consistent circles concern closure of some rational w.r.t. the equave while telicity concerns reliability of connection between generators.


Another key difference is that ''k''-strong telicity is often more strict than a consistent circle; an edo can [[#have a sub-weak circle]] without qualifying for even 0.5-strong 2-a/b telicity (which would usually not be considered as qualifying), or it can [[have a weak circle]] without qualifying for 1-strong 2-a/b telicity (which again would usually not qualify), because these do not require reliability of the full circle, but rather a weaker sense of reliability that nonetheless is sufficient for many of its practical applications.
Another key difference is that ''k''-strong telicity is often more strict than a consistent circle; an edo can [[#have a sub-weak circle]] without qualifying for even 0.5-strong 2-a/b telicity (which would usually not be considered as qualifying), or it can [[#have a weak circle]] without qualifying for 1-strong 2-a/b telicity (which again would usually not qualify), because these do not require reliability of the full circle, but rather a weaker sense of reliability that nonetheless is sufficient for many of its practical applications.


=== Vs. subgroup telicity ===
=== Vs. subgroup telicity ===