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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">A combination product set is a scale generated by the following means:
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">A combination product set is a scale generated by the following means:


# A set of n positive rational numbers is the starting point.
# A set of n positive real numbers is the starting point.
# All the combinations of k elements of the set are obtained, and their product taken.
# All the combinations of k elements of the set are obtained, and their products taken.
# These are combined into a set, and then all of the elements are divided by one of them (which one is arbitary.)
# These are combined into a set, and then all of the elements of that set are divided by one of them (which one is arbitary.)
# The resulting elements are reduced to an octave and sorted in ascending order, resulting in an octave period of a [[periodic scale]] (the usual sort of scale, in other words.)
# The resulting elements are reduced to an octave and sorted in ascending order, resulting in an octave period of a [[periodic scale]] (the usual sort of scale, in other words.)


This is sometimes called an k)n cps. There are special names for special cases: a 2)4 cps is called a [[hexany]]; both 2)5 and 3)5 cps are called dekanies; both 2)6 and 4)6 cps are called pentadekanies, and a 3)6 cps an eikosany.
This is sometimes called an k)n cps. There are special names for special cases: a 2)4 cps is called a [[hexany]]; both 2)5 and 3)5 cps are called dekanies; both 2)6 and 4)6 cps are called pentadekanies, and a 3)6 cps an eikosany. These are normally considered in connection with just intonation, so that the starting set is a set of positive rational numbers, but nothing prevents consideration of the more general case.


The idea can be generalized so that the thing we start from is not a set but a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiset|multiset]]. A multiset is like a set, but the elements have multiplicites; there can be two, three or any number of a given kind of element. Submultisets of a multiset are also multisets, and the product over a multiset takes account of multiplicity. Hence the 2)4 hexany resulting from the multiset [1,1,3,5] first generates the two-element submultisets, which are [1, 1], [1, 3], [1, 5], [3, 5], and we obtain products 1, 3, 5, and 15. Reducing to an octave gives 5/4, 3/2, 15/8, 2 which can be transposed to 5/4, 4/3, 5/3, 2. In spite of being called a hexany it has only four notes.
The idea can be further generalized so that the thing we start from is not a set but a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiset|multiset]]. A multiset is like a set, but the elements have multiplicites; there can be two, three or any number of a given kind of element. Submultisets of a multiset are also multisets, and the product over a multiset takes account of multiplicity. Hence the 2)4 hexany resulting from the multiset [1,1,3,5] first generates the two-element submultisets, which are [1, 1], [1, 3], [1, 5], [3, 5], and we obtain products 1, 3, 5, and 15. Reducing to an octave gives 5/4, 3/2, 15/8, 2 which can be transposed to 5/4, 4/3, 5/3, 2. In spite of being called a hexany it has only four notes.


Cps are closely related to [[Euler genera]], since if we combine 0)n, 1)n, 2)n ... n)n before reducing to an octave, and then reduce, we get an Euler genus.
Cps are closely related to [[Euler genera]], since if we combine 0)n, 1)n, 2)n ... n)n before reducing to an octave, and then reduce, we get an Euler genus.
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Combination product sets&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;A combination product set is a scale generated by the following means:&lt;br /&gt;
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Combination product sets&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;A combination product set is a scale generated by the following means:&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;A set of n positive rational numbers is the starting point.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;All the combinations of k elements of the set are obtained, and their product taken.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;These are combined into a set, and then all of the elements are divided by one of them (which one is arbitary.)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The resulting elements are reduced to an octave and sorted in ascending order, resulting in an octave period of a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/periodic%20scale"&gt;periodic scale&lt;/a&gt; (the usual sort of scale, in other words.)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;A set of n positive real numbers is the starting point.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;All the combinations of k elements of the set are obtained, and their products taken.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;These are combined into a set, and then all of the elements of that set are divided by one of them (which one is arbitary.)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The resulting elements are reduced to an octave and sorted in ascending order, resulting in an octave period of a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/periodic%20scale"&gt;periodic scale&lt;/a&gt; (the usual sort of scale, in other words.)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
This is sometimes called an k)n cps. There are special names for special cases: a 2)4 cps is called a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/hexany"&gt;hexany&lt;/a&gt;; both 2)5 and 3)5 cps are called dekanies; both 2)6 and 4)6 cps are called pentadekanies, and a 3)6 cps an eikosany.&lt;br /&gt;
This is sometimes called an k)n cps. There are special names for special cases: a 2)4 cps is called a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/hexany"&gt;hexany&lt;/a&gt;; both 2)5 and 3)5 cps are called dekanies; both 2)6 and 4)6 cps are called pentadekanies, and a 3)6 cps an eikosany. These are normally considered in connection with just intonation, so that the starting set is a set of positive rational numbers, but nothing prevents consideration of the more general case.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The idea can be generalized so that the thing we start from is not a set but a &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiset" rel="nofollow"&gt;multiset&lt;/a&gt;. A multiset is like a set, but the elements have multiplicites; there can be two, three or any number of a given kind of element. Submultisets of a multiset are also multisets, and the product over a multiset takes account of multiplicity. Hence the 2)4 hexany resulting from the multiset [1,1,3,5] first generates the two-element submultisets, which are [1, 1], [1, 3], [1, 5], [3, 5], and we obtain products 1, 3, 5, and 15. Reducing to an octave gives 5/4, 3/2, 15/8, 2 which can be transposed to 5/4, 4/3, 5/3, 2. In spite of being called a hexany it has only four notes.&lt;br /&gt;
The idea can be further generalized so that the thing we start from is not a set but a &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiset" rel="nofollow"&gt;multiset&lt;/a&gt;. A multiset is like a set, but the elements have multiplicites; there can be two, three or any number of a given kind of element. Submultisets of a multiset are also multisets, and the product over a multiset takes account of multiplicity. Hence the 2)4 hexany resulting from the multiset [1,1,3,5] first generates the two-element submultisets, which are [1, 1], [1, 3], [1, 5], [3, 5], and we obtain products 1, 3, 5, and 15. Reducing to an octave gives 5/4, 3/2, 15/8, 2 which can be transposed to 5/4, 4/3, 5/3, 2. In spite of being called a hexany it has only four notes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cps are closely related to &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Euler%20genera"&gt;Euler genera&lt;/a&gt;, since if we combine 0)n, 1)n, 2)n ... n)n before reducing to an octave, and then reduce, we get an Euler genus.&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
Cps are closely related to &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Euler%20genera"&gt;Euler genera&lt;/a&gt;, since if we combine 0)n, 1)n, 2)n ... n)n before reducing to an octave, and then reduce, we get an Euler genus.&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>