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== Theory == | == Theory == | ||
In the opinion of some, 46edo is the first equal division to deal adequately with the [[13-limit]], though others award that distinction to [[41edo]]. In fact, while 41 is a [[The Riemann zeta function and tuning #Zeta EDO lists|zeta peak and zeta integral edo]] but not a [[The Riemann zeta function and tuning #Zeta EDO lists|zeta gap edo]], 46 is zeta gap but not zeta peak or zeta integral. Like 41, 46 is distinctly [[consistent]] in the [[9-odd-limit]], and it is consistent to the [[13-odd-limit]] or the no-15 no-19 [[23-odd-limit]]. | In the opinion of some, 46edo is the first equal division to deal adequately with the [[13-limit]], though others award that distinction to [[41edo]]. In fact, while 41 is a [[The Riemann zeta function and tuning #Zeta EDO lists|zeta peak and zeta integral edo]] but not a [[The Riemann zeta function and tuning #Zeta EDO lists|zeta gap edo]], 46 is zeta gap but not zeta peak or zeta integral. Like 41, 46 is distinctly [[consistent]] in the [[9-odd-limit]], and it is consistent to the [[13-odd-limit]] or the no-15 no-19 [[23-odd-limit]]. 46edo's fifth is slightly sharp of just, which some people (e.g. [[Margo Schulter]]) prefer, sometimes strongly, over both the [[3/2|just fifth]] and fifths of temperaments with flat fifths, such as meantone. Many say that sharp fifths give a characteristic bright sound to 5-limit triads, and consider the sound of meantone triads to be more mellow in comparison. | ||
[[Rank-2 temperament]]s it [[support]]s include [[sensi]], [[valentine]], [[shrutar]], [[rodan]], [[leapday]] and [[unidec]]. The [[11-odd-limit]] [[minimax tuning]] for valentine, (11/7)<sup>1/10</sup>, is only 0.01 cents flat of 3\46 octaves. | |||
[[Magic22 as srutis #Shrutar.5B22.5D_as_srutis|Shrutar22 as srutis]] describes a possible use of 46edo for [[Indian]] music. | [[Magic22 as srutis #Shrutar.5B22.5D_as_srutis|Shrutar22 as srutis]] describes a possible use of 46edo for [[Indian]] music. | ||
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<nowiki>*</nowiki> Based on treating 46edo as a 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.23 subgroup, without ratios of 15 (except the superparticulars). 46edo has the 15th harmonic poorly approximated | <nowiki>*</nowiki> Based on treating 46edo as a 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.23 subgroup, without ratios of 15 (except the superparticulars). 46edo has intervals involving the 15th harmonic poorly approximated, except for 15/8 and 16/15 themselves, because, while the 3rd and 5th harmonics are sharp and their deviations from just intonation add up, 7, 11, and 13 are all tuned flat, making the difference even larger, preventing it from being [[consistent]] in the [[15-odd-limit]]. This can be demonstrated with the discrepancy approximating [[15/13]] and [[26/15]]. 9\46 is closer to 15/13 by a hair; 10\46 represents the difference between, for instance, 46edo's 15/8 and 13/8, and is more likely to appear in chords actually functioning as 15/13. | ||
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=== Commas === | |||
This is a partial list of the [[commas]] that 46edo [[tempers out]] with its patent [[val]], {{val| 24 38 56 67 83 89 }}. | |||
{| class="commatable wikitable center-1 center-2 right-4 center-5" | |||
|- | |||
! [[Harmonic limit|Prime<br>Limit]] | |||
! [[Ratio]]<ref>Ratios longer than 10 digits are presented by placeholders with informative hints</ref> | |||
! [[Monzo]] | |||
! [[Cent]]s | |||
! [[Color name]] | |||
! Name(s) | |||
|- | |||
| 5 | |||
| [[2048/2025]] | |||
| {{monzo| 11 -4 -2 }} | |||
| 19.55 | |||
| Sagugu | |||
| Diaschisma | |||
|- | |||
| 5 | |||
| [[78732/78125]] | |||
| {{monzo| 2 9 -7 }} | |||
| 13.40 | |||
| Sepgu | |||
| Sensipent comma | |||
|- | |||
| 7 | |||
| [[686/675]] | |||
| {{monzo| 1 -3 -2 3 }} | |||
| 27.99 | |||
| Trizo-agugu | |||
| Senga | |||
|- | |||
| 7 | |||
| [[245/243]] | |||
| {{monzo| 0 -5 1 2 }} | |||
| 14.19 | |||
| Zozoyo | |||
| Sensamagic comma | |||
|- | |||
| 7 | |||
| [[126/125]] | |||
| {{monzo| 1 2 -3 1 }} | |||
| 13.80 | |||
| Zotrigu | |||
| Starling comma | |||
|- | |||
| 7 | |||
| [[1029/1024]] | |||
| {{monzo| -10 1 0 3 }} | |||
| 8.43 | |||
| Latrizo | |||
| Gamelisma | |||
|- | |||
| 7 | |||
| [[5120/5103]] | |||
| {{monzo| 10 -6 1 -1 }} | |||
| 5.76 | |||
| Saruyo | |||
| Hemifamity comma, aberschisma | |||
|- | |||
| 11 | |||
| [[121/120]] | |||
| {{monzo|-3 -1 -1 0 2 }} | |||
| 14.37 | |||
| Lologu | |||
| Biyatisma | |||
|- | |||
| 11 | |||
| [[176/175]] | |||
| {{monzo| 4 0 -2 -1 1 }} | |||
| 9.86 | |||
| Lorugugu | |||
| Valinorsma | |||
|- | |||
| 11 | |||
| [[896/891]] | |||
| {{monzo| 7 -4 0 1 -1 }} | |||
| 9.69 | |||
| Saluzo | |||
| Pentacircle | |||
|- | |||
| 11 | |||
| [[385/384]] | |||
| {{monzo|-7 -1 1 1 1 }} | |||
| 4.50 | |||
| Lozoyo | |||
| Keenanisma | |||
|- | |||
| 11 | |||
| [[441/440]] | |||
| {{monzo| -3 2 -1 2 -1 }} | |||
| 3.93 | |||
| Luzozogu | |||
| Werckisma | |||
|- | |||
| 13 | |||
| [[91/90]] | |||
| {{monzo| -1 -2 -1 1 0 1 }} | |||
| 19.13 | |||
| Thozogu | |||
| Superleap | |||
|- | |||
| 13 | |||
| [[169/168]] | |||
| {{monzo| -3 -1 0 -1 0 2 }} | |||
| 10.27 | |||
| Thothoru | |||
| Buzurgisma, dhanvantarisma | |||
|- | |||
| 13 | |||
| [[196/195]] | |||
| {{monzo| 2 -1 -1 2 0 -1 }} | |||
| 8.86 | |||
| Thuzozogu | |||
| Mynucuma | |||
|- | |||
| 13 | |||
| [[507/500]] | |||
| {{monzo| -2 1 -3 0 0 2 }} | |||
| 24.07 | |||
| Thothotrigu | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 17 | |||
| [[256/255]] | |||
| {{monzo| 8 -1 -1 0 0 0 -1 }} | |||
| 6.78 | |||
| Sugu | |||
| Charisma, septendecimal kleisma | |||
|- | |||
| 17 | |||
| [[289/288]] | |||
| {{monzo| -5 -2 2 }} | |||
| 6.00 | |||
| Soso | |||
| Semitonisma | |||
|} | |} | ||