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[[Oneirotonic]] temperaments have a sort of analogy to diatonic temperaments superpyth and meantone in how they treat the large step. In diatonic the large step approximates 9/8 (a very good 9/8 in 12edo), but superpyth has 9/8 ~ 8/7, and meantone has 9/8 ~ 10/9. In oneirotonic the large step tends to approximate 10/9 (and is a very good 10/9 in 13edo which is the oneirotonic analogue to 12edo), but different oneiro temperaments do different things with it. In A-Team (13&18), 10/9 is equated with 9/8, making the major oneirothird a 5/4 (thus is "meantone" in that sense). In both Petrtri (13&21) and Tridec (21&29), 10/9 is equated with 11/10, making the major oneirothird a 11/9; and the perfect oneirofourth is equated to 13/10. So the compressed major triad add2 (R-M2-M3-M5, M5 = major oneirofifth = minor fifth in 13edo) is interpreted as 9:10:11:13 in petrtri, analogous to meantone's 8:9:10:12. Thus Petrtri and Tridec are the same temperament when you only care about the 9:10:11:13, or equivalently the 2.9/5.11/5.13/5 subgroup. This is one reason why Tridec can be viewed as the oneirotonic analogue of [[flattone]]: it's a flatter variant of the flat-of-13edo oneiro temperament on the 2.9/5.11/5.13/5 subgroup. | [[Oneirotonic]] temperaments have a sort of analogy to diatonic temperaments superpyth and meantone in how they treat the large step. In diatonic the large step approximates 9/8 (a very good 9/8 in 12edo), but superpyth has 9/8 ~ 8/7, and meantone has 9/8 ~ 10/9. In oneirotonic the large step tends to approximate 10/9 (and is a very good 10/9 in 13edo which is the oneirotonic analogue to 12edo), but different oneiro temperaments do different things with it. In A-Team (13&18), 10/9 is equated with 9/8, making the major oneirothird a 5/4 (thus is "meantone" in that sense). In both Petrtri (13&21) and Tridec (21&29), 10/9 is equated with 11/10, making the major oneirothird a 11/9; and the perfect oneirofourth is equated to 13/10. So the compressed major triad add2 (R-M2-M3-M5, M5 = major oneirofifth = minor fifth in 13edo) is interpreted as 9:10:11:13 in petrtri, analogous to meantone's 8:9:10:12. Thus Petrtri and Tridec are the same temperament when you only care about the 9:10:11:13, or equivalently the 2.9/5.11/5.13/5 subgroup. This is one reason why Tridec can be viewed as the oneirotonic analogue of [[flattone]]: it's a flatter variant of the flat-of-13edo oneiro temperament on the 2.9/5.11/5.13/5 subgroup. | ||
Vulture/[[Hemifamity_temperaments|Buzzard]], in which four generators make a 3/1 (and three generators approximate an octave plus 8/7), is the only [[harmonic entropy]] minimum in the oneirotonic range. However, the rest of this region is still rich in notable subgroup temperaments. | Vulture/[[Hemifamity_temperaments|Buzzard]], in which four generators make a 3/1 (and three generators approximate an octave plus 8/7), is the only [[harmonic entropy]] minimum in the oneirotonic range. However, the rest of this region is still rich in notable subgroup temperaments. | ||
== Petrtri == | == Petrtri == | ||
Subgroup: 2.11/5.13/5 | Subgroup: 2.11/5.13/5 | ||
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== Buzzard == | == Buzzard == | ||
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