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The '''archytas clan''' tempers out the [[64/63|Archytas comma]], 64/63. This means that four stacked 3/2 fifths equal a 9/7 major third. (Note the similarity in function to [[81/80]] in meantone, where four stacked 3/2 fifths equal a 5/4 major third.) This leads to tunings with 3s and 7s quite sharp, such as those of [[22edo]].  
{{Technical data page}}
The '''archytas clan''' (or '''archy family''') [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[64/63|Archytas' comma]], 64/63. This means a stack of two [[3/2]] fifths [[octave reduction|octave-reduced]] equals a whole tone of [[8/7]][[~]][[9/8]] tempered together; two of these tones or equivalently four stacked fifths octave-reduced equal a [[9/7]] major third. Note the similarity in function to [[81/80]] in meantone, where four stacked fifths octave-reduced equal a [[5/4]] major third. This leads to tunings with 3's and 7's quite sharp, such as those of [[22edo]], [[27edo]], or [[49edo]].  


Adding 50/49 to the list of commas gives pajara, 36/35 gives dominant, 16/15 gives mother, 126/125 gives augene, 28/27 gives blacksmith, 245/243 gives superpyth, 250/243 gives porcupine, 686/675 gives beatles, 360/343 gives schism, 3125/3087 gives passion, 2430/2401 gives quasisuper, and 4375/4374 gives modus.  
This article focuses on rank-2 temperaments. See [[Archytas family]] for the [[rank-3 temperament]] resulting from tempering out 64/63 alone in the full 7-limit.  


Discussed under their respective 5-limit families are [[Father family #Mother|mother]], [[Meantone family #Dominant|dominant]], [[Augmented family #Augene|augene]], [[Porcupine family|porcupine]], [[Diaschismic family #Pajara|pajara]], [[Kleismic family #Catalan|catalan]], [[Tetracot family #Modus|modus]], and [[Immunity family #Immunized|immunized]]. The rest are considered below.
== Archy ==
{{Main| Superpyth }}


= Archy =
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.7
 
Subgroup: 2.3.7


[[Comma list]]: 64/63
[[Comma list]]: 64/63


[[Sval]] [[mapping]]: [{{val| 1 0 6 }}, {{val| 0 1 -2 }}]
{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 0 6 | 0 1 -2 }}
 
Sval mapping generators: ~2, ~3


Gencom mapping: [{{val| 1 1 0 4 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 -2 }}]
{{Mapping|legend=5| 1 0 0 6 | 0 1 0 -2 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3


[[Gencom]]: [2 3/2; 64/63]
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1196.9552{{c}}, ~3/2 = 707.5215{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -3.045 +2.522 +3.952 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 709.3901{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +7.435 +12.394 }}


[[POTE generator]]: ~3/2 = 709.321
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 3, 5, 12, 17, 22, 137bdd, 159bddd, 181bbddd }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 2, 3, 5, 12, 17, 22 }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.159


Scales: [[archy5]], [[archy7]], [[archy12]]
Scales: [[archy5]], [[archy7]], [[archy12]]


== Supra ==
=== Overview to extensions ===
 
==== 7-limit extensions ====
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11
The second comma in the comma list defines which [[7-limit]] family member we are looking at:  
* [[#Schism|Schism]] adds [[360/343]], for a tuning around [[12edo]];
* [[Meantone family #Dominant|Dominant]] adds [[36/35]], for a tuning between [[12edo]] and [[17edo|17c-edo]];
* [[#Quasisuper|Quasisuper]] adds [[2430/2401]], for a tuning between 17c-edo and [[22edo]];
* [[#Superpyth|Superpyth]] adds [[245/243]], for a tuning between 22edo and [[27edo]];
* [[#Quasiultra|Quasiultra]] adds [[33614/32805]], for a tuning between 27edo and [[32edo]];
* [[#Ultrapyth|Ultrapyth]] adds [[6860/6561]], for a tuning sharp of 32edo;
* Mother adds [[16/15]], for an exotemperament well tuned around [[5edo]].  


Comma list: 64/63, 99/98
These all use the same generators as archy.


Sval mapping: [{{val| 1 0 6 13 }}, {{val| 0 1 -2 -6 }}]
[[25/24]] gives dichotic. [[686/675]] gives beatles. Those split the fifth in two. [[8748/8575]] gives immunized, splitting the twelfth in two. [[50/49]] gives pajara with a semi-octave period. [[392/375]] gives progress. [[6125/5832]] gives kangaroo. Those split the twelfth in three. [[250/243]] gives porcupine, splitting the fourth in three. [[126/125]] gives augene with a 1/3-octave period. [[4375/4374]] gives modus, splitting the fifth in four. [[3125/3024]] gives brightstone. [[9604/9375]] gives fervor. [[3125/2916]] gives sixix. [[3125/3087]] gives passion. Those split the generator in five in various ways. [[15625/15552]] gives catalan, splitting the twelfth in six. Finally, [[28/27]] gives blackwood and [[17496/16807]] gives [[gothic]], reducing the intervals of 3 and 7 to the same chain of 1/5- and 1/17-octave periods, respectively.


Sval mapping generators: ~2, ~3
Temperaments discussed elsewhere are:  
* ''[[Phlegyas]]'' (+10/9) → [[Very low accuracy temperaments #Phlegyas|Very low accuracy temperaments]]
* ''[[Medusa]]'' (+15/14) → [[Very low accuracy temperaments #Medusa|Very low accuracy temperaments]]
* ''[[Mother]]'' (+16/15) → [[Father family #Mother|Father family]]
* [[Dominant (temperament)|Dominant]] (+36/35) → [[Meantone family #Dominant|Meantone family]]
* ''[[Dichotic]]'' (+25/24) → [[Dicot family #Dichotic|Dicot family]]
* ''[[Immunized]]'' (+8748/8575) → [[Immunity family #Immunized|Immunity family]]
* [[Pajara]] (+50/49) → [[Diaschismic family #Pajara|Diaschismic family]]
* [[Augene]] (+126/125) → [[Augmented family #Septimal augmented (augene)|Augmented family]]
* [[Porcupine]] (+250/243) → [[Porcupine family #Septimal porcupine|Porcupine family]]
* [[Modus]] (+4375/4374) → [[Tetracot family #Modus|Tetracot family]]
* ''[[Brightstone]]'' (+3125/3024) → [[Magic family #Brightstone|Magic family]]
* ''[[Passion]]'' (+3125/3087) → [[Passion family #Septimal passion|Passion family]]
* ''[[Catalan]]'' (+15625/15552) → [[Kleismic family #Catalan|Kleismic family]]
* [[Blackwood]] (+28/27) → [[Blackwood family #Blackwood|Blackwood family]]
* ''[[Gothic]]'' (+17496/16807) → [[17th-octave temperaments #Gothic|17th-octave temperaments]]


Gencom mapping: [{{val| 1 1 0 4 7 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 -2 -6 }}]
The rest are considered below.


Gencom: [2 3/2; 64/63 99/98]
==== Subgroup extensions ====
Omitting prime 5, archy can be extended to the [[2.3.7.11 subgroup]] by identifying 11/8 as a diminished fourth (C–G♭). This is called supra, given in [[#Subgroup extensions_2|#Subgroup extensions]]. Discussed elsewhere is [[suhajira]] of the [[rastmic clan #Suhajira|rastmic clan]].


POTE generator: ~3/2 = 707.192
== Superpyth ==
{{Main| Superpyth }}
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–diatonic equivalence continuum #Superpyth (5-limit)]].''


{{Val list|legend=1| 5, 12, 17, 39d, 56d }}
Superpyth, virtually the canonical extension, adds [[245/243]] and [[1728/1715]] to the comma list and can be described as {{nowrap| [[22edo|22]] [[&]] [[27edo|27]] }}. ~[[5/4]] is found at +9 generator steps, as an augmented second (C–D♯). In the [[11-limit]] it finds the ~[[11/8]] at +16 generator steps, as a double-augmented second (C–D𝄪). [[49edo]] remains an obvious tuning choice in either case.


Scales: [[supra7]], [[supra12]]
Extending superpyth to the [[13-limit]] is more diffcult. Tridecimal superpyth finds the ~[[13/8]] at +13 generator steps, as a double-augmented fourth (C–F𝄪), for which 27edo can be recommended as a tuning since it is the only [[13-odd-limit]] [[diamond monotone]] tuning. The other extension, called uberpyth, is more flexible with its tunings, but unfortunately tends to tune the 13 very sharp.


=== Supraphon ===
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13
[[Comma list]]: 64/63, 245/243


Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 99/98
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -12 6 | 0 1 9 -2 }}


Sval mapping: [{{val| 1 0 6 13 18 }}, {{val| 0 1 -2 -6 -9 }}]
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1197.0549{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.5478{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -2.945 +3.648 -0.548 +2.298 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 710.1193{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +8.164 +4.760 +10.935 }}


Sval mapping generators: ~2, ~3
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 17, 22, 27, 49, 174bbcddd }}


Gencom mapping: [{{val| 1 1 0 4 7 9 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 -2 -6 -9 }}]
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.818


Gencom: [2 3/2; 64/63 78/77 99/98]
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


POTE generator: ~3/2 = 706.137
Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 245/243


{{Val list|legend=1| 12f, 17 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 -12 6 -22 | 0 1 9 -2 16 }}


Scales: [[supra7]], [[supra12]]
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1197.0673{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.4391{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 710.0129{{c}}


== Suhajira ==
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22, 27e, 49 }}


Subgroup: 2.3.7.11
Badness (Sintel): 0.826


Comma list: 64/63, 243/242
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Sval mapping: [{{val| 1 1 4 2 }}, {{val| 0 2 -4 5 }}]
Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 91/90, 100/99


Sval mapping generators: ~2, ~3
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 -12 6 -22 -17 | 0 1 9 -2 16 13 }}


Gencom mapping: [{{val| 1 1 0 4 2 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 -4 5 }}]
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1197.3011{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.8813{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 710.3219{{c}}


Gencom: [2 3/2; 64/63 99/98]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22, 27e, 49, 76bcde }}


POTE generator: ~11/9 = 353.958
Badness (Sintel): 1.02


{{Val list|legend=1| 7, 10, 17, 44e, 61de }}
==== Uberpyth ====
 
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Scales: [[suhajira7]], [[suhajira10]], [[suhajira17]]
 
=== 2.3.7.11.13 ===
 
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 144/143
 
Sval mapping: [{{val| 1 1 4 2 4 }}, {{val| 0 2 -4 5 -1 }}]
 
Sval mapping generators: ~2, ~3
 
Gencom mapping: [{{val| 1 1 0 4 2 4 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 -4 5 -1 }}]
 
Gencom: [2 3/2; 64/63 78/77 99/98]
 
POTE generator: ~11/9 = 353.775
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 7, 10, 17, 44e, 61de }}
 
Scales: [[suhajira7]], [[suhajira10]], [[suhajira17]]
 
= Superpyth =
{{main| Superpyth }}
 
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
 
[[Comma list]]: 64/63, 245/243
 
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 0 -12 6 }}, {{val| 0 1 9 -2 }}]
 
{{Multival|legend=1| 1 9 -2 12 -6 -30 }}
 
[[POTE generator]]: ~3/2 = 710.291
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 5, 17, 22, 27, 49 }}
 
[[Badness]]: 0.0323
 
== 11-limit ==
 
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 245/243


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 -12 6 -22 }}, {{val| 0 1 9 -2 16 }}]
Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 144/143, 245/243


POTE generator: ~3/2 = 710.175
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 -12 6 -22 26 | 0 1 9 -2 16 -14 }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 22, 27e, 49 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1196.6666{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.3602{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 710.2878{{c}}


Badness: 0.0250
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22f, 27e, 49f, 125bcddeeeff, 174bbcdddeeeeffff }}


=== 13-limit ===
Badness (Sintel): 1.11


==== Thomas ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 91/90, 100/99
Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 169/168, 245/243


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 -12 6 -22 -17 }}, {{val| 0 1 9 -2 16 13 }}]
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 1 -3 4 -6 4 | 0 2 18 -4 32 -1 }}


POTE generator: ~3/2 = 710.479
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1197.4942{{c}}, ~16/13 = 354.2950{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~16/13 = 354.9824{{c}}


{{Val list|legend=1| 22, 27e, 49, 76bcde }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 27e, 44, 71d, 98bde }}


Badness: 0.0247
Badness (Sintel): 2.03


== Suprapyth ==
=== Suprapyth ===
Suprapyth finds the ~11/8 at the diminished fifth (C–G♭), and finds the ~13/8 at the diminished seventh (C–B𝄫).


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Line 156: Line 156:
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 99/98
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 99/98


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 -12 6 13 }}, {{val| 0 1 9 -2 -6 }}]
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 -12 6 13 | 0 1 9 -2 -6 }}
 
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 709.495


{{Val list|legend=1| 17, 22 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1198.6960{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.7235{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 709.4699{{c}}


Badness: 0.0328
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 17, 22 }}


=== 13-limit ===
Badness (Sintel): 1.08


==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 65/63, 99/98
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 65/63, 99/98


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 -12 6 13 18 }}, {{val| 0 1 9 -2 -6 -9 }}]
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 -12 6 13 18 | 0 1 9 -2 -6 -9 }}


POTE generator: ~3/2 = 708.703
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9871{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.6952{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.7028{{c}}


{{Val list|legend=1| 17, 22, 83cdf }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5f, 17, 22 }}


Badness: 0.0363
Badness (Sintel): 1.50


= Quasisuper =
== Quasisuper ==
{{Main|Quasisuper}}


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Quasisuper can be described as {{nowrap| 17c & 22 }}, with the ~5/4 mapped to -13 generator steps, as a double-diminished fifth (C–G𝄫). The 11-limit version, quasisupra, can be viewed as an extension of the excellent 2.3.7.11-subgroup temperament [[supra]], with the quasisuper mapping of 5 thrown in, rather than the superpyth mapping of 5 (which results in suprapyth).
 
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


[[Comma list]]: 64/63, 2430/2401
[[Comma list]]: 64/63, 2430/2401


[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 0 23 6 }}, {{val| 0 1 -13 -2 }}]
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 23 6 | 0 1 -13 -2 }}


{{Multival|legend=1| 1 -13 -2 -23 -2 -6 32 }}
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1196.9830{{c}}, ~3/2 = 706.4578{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -3.017 +1.486 -0.435 +6.190 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.3716{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +6.417 +4.855 +14.431 }}


[[POTE generator]]: ~3/2 = 708.328
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 17c, 22, 61d }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 17c, 22, 61d }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.61
 
[[Badness]]: 0.0638
 
== Quasisupra ==
Quasisupra can be viewed as an extension of the excellent 2.3.7.11 temperament [[supra]], with the quasisuper mapping of 5 thrown in, rather than the superpyth mapping of 5 (which results in suprapyth).


=== Quasisupra ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Comma list: 64/63, 99/98, 121/120
Comma list: 64/63, 99/98, 121/120


Mapping: [{{val| 1 2 -3 2 1 }}, {{val| 0 -1 13 2 6 }}]
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 23 6 13 | 0 1 -13 -2 -6 }}
 
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 708.205


{{Val list|legend=1| 17c, 22, 39d, 61d }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1197.5675{{c}}, ~3/2 = 706.7690{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.3200{{c}}


Badness: 0.0322
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 17c, 22, 39d, 61d }}


=== 13-limit ===
Badness (Sintel): 1.06


==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 91/90, 121/120
Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 91/90, 121/120


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 23 6 13 18 }}, {{val| 0 1 -13 -2 -6 -9 }}]
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 23 6 13 18 | 0 1 -13 -2 -6 -9 }}
 
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 708.004


{{Val list|legend=1| 17c, 22, 39d, 61df, 100bcdf }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1198.2543{{c}}, ~3/2 = 706.9736{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.0936{{c}}


Badness: 0.0302
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 17c, 22, 39d }}


== Quasisoup ==
Badness (Sintel): 1.25


=== Quasisoup ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 2430/2401
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 2430/2401


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 23 6 -22 }}, {{val| 0 1 -13 -2 16 }}]
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 23 6 -22 | 0 1 -13 -2 16 }}
 
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 709.021


{{Val list|legend=1| 22 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1198.8446{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.3388{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.0252{{c}}


Badness: 0.0835
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22 }}


= Schism =
Badness (Sintel): 2.76
{{see also|Schismatic family #Schism}}


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
== Ultrapyth ==
{{Main| Ultrapyth }}
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–diatonic equivalence continuum #Ultrapyth (5-limit)]].''


[[Comma list]]: 64/63, 360/343
Ultrapyth can be viewed as an extension of the excellent 2.3.7.13/5 [[#Oceanfront|oceanfront]] temperament, mapping the ~5/4 to +14 fifths as a double-augmented unison (C–C𝄪).


[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 0 15 6 }}, {{val| 0 1 -8 -2 }}]
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


{{Multival|legend=1| 1 -8 -2 -15 -6 18 }}
[[Comma list]]: 64/63, 6860/6561


[[POTE generator]]: ~3/2 = 701.556
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -20 6 | 0 1 14 -2 }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 12, 41d, 53d }}
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1197.2673{{c}}, ~3/2 = 712.0258{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -2.733 +7.338 -1.557 -3.808 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 713.5430{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +11.588 +3.288 +4.088 }}


[[Badness]]: 0.0566
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 27c, 32, 37 }}


== 11-limit ==
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.74


=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Comma list: 45/44, 64/63, 99/98
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 2401/2376


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 15 6 13 }}, {{val| 0 1 -8 -2 -6 }}]
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 -20 6 21 | 0 1 14 -2 -11 }}


POTE generator: ~3/2 = 702.136
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1198.0290{{c}}, ~3/2 = 712.2235{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 713.3754{{c}}


{{Val list|legend=1| 12, 29de, 41de }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 32, 37 }}


Badness: 0.0375
Badness (Sintel): 2.26


= Blacksmith =
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


[[File:blacksmith10.jpg|alt=blacksmith10.jpg|thumb|Lattice of blacksmith]]
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 91/90, 1573/1568


== 5-limit (blackwood) ==
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 -20 6 21 -25 | 0 1 14 -2 -11 18 }}


Subgroup: 2.3.5
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1198.1911{{c}}, ~3/2 = 712.4243{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 713.4684{{c}}


Comma list: 256/243
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 32, 37 }}


Mapping: [{{val| 5 8 0 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 }}]
Badness (Sintel): 2.03


Mapping generators: ~9/8, ~5
=== Ultramarine ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


POTE generator: ~5/4 = 399.594
Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 3773/3645


{{Val list|legend=1| 5, 10, 15 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 -20 6 -38 | 0 1 14 -2 26 }}


Badness: 0.0638
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1197.2230{{c}}, ~3/2 = 712.1393{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 713.6928{{c}}


== 7-limit ==
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5e, 32e, 37, 79bce }}


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Badness (Sintel): 2.58


Comma list: 28/27, 49/48
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Mapping: [{{val| 5 8 0 14 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 0 }}]
Comma list: 64/63, 91/90, 100/99, 847/845


Mapping generators: ~7/6, ~5
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 -20 6 -38 -25 | 0 1 14 -2 26 18 }}


{{Multival|legend=1| 0 5 0 8 0 -14 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1197.2739{{c}}, ~3/2 = 712.1893{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 713.7079{{c}}


POTE generator: ~5/4 = 392.767
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5e, 32e, 37, 79bcef }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 5, 10, 15, 40b, 55b }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.89


Badness: 0.0256
== Quasiultra ==
Quasiultra is to ultrapyth what quasisuper is to superpyth. It is the {{nowrap| 27 & 32 }} temperament, mapping the ~5/4 to -18 fifths as a double diminished sixth (C–A𝄫♭).  


== 11-limit ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
[[Comma list]]: 64/63, 33614/32805


Comma list: 28/27, 49/48, 55/54
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 31 6 | 0 1 -18 -2 }}


Mapping: [{{val| 5 8 0 14 29 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 0 -1 }}]
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1196.9257{{c}}, ~3/2 = 709.6211{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| 0.000 +9.883 +0.608 +7.499 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 711.5429{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +9.588 +5.914 +8.088 }}


POTE generator: ~5/4 = 394.948
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 27, 86bd, 113bcd, 140bbcd }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 5, 10, 15, 40be, 55be, 70bde, 85bcde}}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 3.34


Badness: 0.0246
== Schism ==
{{See also| Schismatic family #Schism }}


=== 13-limit ===
Schism tempers out the [[schisma]], mapping the ~5/4 to -8 fifths as a diminished fourth (C–F♭) as does any schismic temperament. 12edo is recommendable tuning, though 29edo (29d val), 41edo (41d val), and 53edo (53dd val) can be used.


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


Comma list: 28/27, 40/39, 49/48, 55/54
[[Comma list]]: 64/63, 360/343
 
Mapping: [{{val| 5 8 0 14 29 7 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 0 -1 1 }}]


POTE generator: ~5/4 = 391.0367
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 15 6 | 0 1 -8 -2 }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 5, 10, 15, 25e, 40bef}}
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1197.3598{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.0126{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -2.640 -4.583 -4.896 +20.588 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.7376{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.217 -0.214 +27.699 }}


Badness: 0.0205
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5c, 7c, 12 }}


== Farrier ==
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.43


=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Comma list: 28/27, 49/48, 77/75
Comma list: 45/44, 64/63, 99/98


Mapping: [{{val| 5 8 0 14 -6 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 0 2 }}]
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 15 6 13 | 0 1 -8 -2 -6 }}


POTE generator: ~5/4 = 398.070
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1196.1607{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.8897{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.4385{{c}}


{{Val list|legend=1| 5e, 10e, 15 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5c, 7ce, 12, 29de }}


Badness: 0.0292
Badness (Sintel): 1.24


=== 13-limit ===
== Beatles ==
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Beatles]].''


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Beatles tempers out 686/675, which may also be characterized by saying it tempers out [[2401/2400]]. It may be described as the {{nowrap| 10 & 17c }} temperament. It splits the fifth into two neutral-third generators of 49/40~60/49; its [[ploidacot]] is dicot. 5/4 may be found at -9 generator steps, as a semidiminished fourth (C–Fd). 27edo is an obvious tuning, though 17c-edo and 37edo are among the possibilities.  


Comma list: 28/27, 40/39, 49/48, 66/65
Beatles extends easily to the no-11 13-limit, as the generator can be interpreted as ~16/13, tempering out 91/90, 169/168, and 196/195.


Mapping: [{{val| 5 8 0 14 -6 7 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 0 2 1 }}]
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


POTE generator: ~5/4 = 396.812
[[Comma list]]: 64/63, 686/675


{{Val list|legend=1| 5e, 10e, 15 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 5 4 | 0 2 -9 -4 }}


Badness: 0.0223
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1196.6244{{c}}, ~49/40 = 354.9029{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -3.376 +4.475 +2.682 -1.940 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~49/40 = 356.0819{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +10.209 +8.949 +6.847 }}


== Ferrum ==
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 17c, 27, 64b, 91bcd, 118bccd }}


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.16


Comma list: 28/27, 35/33, 49/48
; Music
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20201127013829/http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/micro/gene_ward_smith/Others/Herman/beatles-improv.mp3 ''Beatles Improv''] by [[Herman Miller]]


Mapping: [{{val| 5 8 0 14 6 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 0 1 }}]
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


POTE generator: ~5/4 = 374.763
Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 686/675


{{Val list|legend=1| 5e, 10 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 1 5 4 10 | 0 2 -9 -4 -22 }}


Badness: 0.0309
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1196.7001{{c}}, ~49/40 = 355.1606{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~49/40 = 356.2795{{c}}


= Beatles =
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10e, 17cee, 27e, 64be, 91bcdee }}
== 5-limit ==


Subgroup: 2.3.5
Badness (Sintel): 1.51


Comma list: 524288/492075
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Mapping: [{{val| 1 1 5 }}, {{val| 0 2 -9 }}]
Comma list: 64/63, 91/90, 100/99, 169/168
 
POTE generator: ~512/405 = 355.930
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 10, 17c, 27, 64b, 91bc, 118bc }}
 
Badness: 0.3585
 
== 7-limit ==
 
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7


Comma list: 64/63, 686/675
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 1 5 4 10 4 | 0 2 -9 -4 -22 -1 }}


Mapping: [{{val| 1 1 5 4 }}, {{val| 0 2 -9 -4 }}]
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1197.2504{{c}}, ~16/13 = 355.4132{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~16/13 = 356.3273{{c}}


{{Multival|legend=1| 2 -9 -4 -19 -12 16 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10e, 27e, 37, 64be }}


POTE generator: ~49/40 = 355.904
Badness (Sintel): 1.25
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 10, 17c, 27, 64b, 91bcd, 118bcd }}
 
Badness: 0.0459
 
; Music
* [http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/micro/gene_ward_smith/Others/Herman/beatles-improv.mp3 Beatles Improv] by Herman Miller
 
== 11-limit ==


=== Ringo ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 686/675
Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 540/539
 
Mapping: [{{val| 1 1 5 4 10 }}, {{val| 0 2 -9 -4 -22 }}]


POTE generator: ~49/40 = 356.140
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 1 5 4 2 | 0 2 -9 -4 5 }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 27e, 37, 64be, 91bcde }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1195.4102{{c}}, ~11/9 = 354.0597{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/9 = 355.5207{{c}}


Badness: 0.0456
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 17c, 27e }}


=== 13-limit ===
Badness (Sintel): 1.09


==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 64/63, 91/90, 100/99, 169/168
Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 78/77, 91/90


Mapping: [{{val| 1 1 5 4 10 4 }}, {{val| 0 2 -9 -4 -22 -1 }}]
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 1 5 4 2 4 | 0 2 -9 -4 5 -1 }}


POTE generator: ~16/13 = 356.229
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1195.9943{{c}}, ~11/9 = 354.2695{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/9 = 355.5398{{c}}


{{Val list|legend=1| 27e, 37, 64be }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 17c, 27e }}


Badness: 0.0302
Badness (Sintel): 0.935


== Ringo ==
=== Beetle ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 686/675


Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 540/539
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 1 5 4 -1 | 0 2 -9 -4 15 }}


Mapping: [{{val| 1 1 5 4 2 }}, {{val| 0 2 -9 -4 5 }}]
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1197.9660{{c}}, ~49/40 = 356.1056{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~49/40 = 356.7075{{c}}


POTE generator: ~11/9 = 355.419
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 27, 37 }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 10, 17c, 27e }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.92


Badness: 0.0329
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


=== 13-limit ===
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 91/90, 169/168


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 1 5 4 -1 4 | 0 2 -9 -4 15 -1 }}


Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 78/77, 91/90
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1198.1741{{c}}, ~16/13 = 356.1582{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~16/13 = 356.7008{{c}}


Mapping: [{{val| 1 1 5 4 2 4 }}, {{val| 0 2 -9 -4 5 -1 }}]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 27, 37 }}


POTE generator: ~11/9 = 355.456
Badness (Sintel): 1.40


{{Val list|legend=1| 10, 17c, 27e }}
== Progress ==
{{Distinguish| Progression }}
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Progress]].''


Badness: 0.0226
Progress tempers out [[392/375]] and may be described as {{nowrap| 15 & 17c }}. It splits the [[3/1|perfect twelfth]] into three generators of [[~]][[10/7]]; its [[ploidacot]] is alpha-tricot. The 11-limit extension simply equates the generator to [[16/11]], and the 13-limit extension further equates it to [[13/9]]. [[32edo|32c-edo]] gives an obvious tuning.  


= Passion =
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
== 5-limit ==


Subgroup: 2.3.5
[[Comma list]]: 64/63, 392/375


Comma list: 262144/253125
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 5 6 | 0 3 -5 -6 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~10/7


Mapping: [{{val| 1 2 2 }}, {{val| 0 -5 4 }}]
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1195.1377{{c}}, ~10/7 = 635.2932{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -4.862 +3.925 +12.908 -9.759 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 638.0791{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +12.282 +23.291 +2.700 }}


Mapping generators: 2, 16/15
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 13, 15, 32c }}


POTE generator: ~16/15 = 98.670
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.68


{{Val list|legend=1| 12, 49, 61, 73 }}
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Badness: 0.1686
Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 77/75


== 7-limit ==
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 5 6 4 | 0 3 -5 -6 -1 }}


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1195.4920{{c}}, ~10/7 = 635.5183{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 638.0884{{c}}


Comma list: 64/63, 3125/3087
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 2, 13, 15, 32c, 47bc }}


Mapping: [{{val| 1 2 2 2 }}, {{val| 0 -5 4 10 }}]
Badness (Sintel): 1.03


Mapping generators: 2, 16/15
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


{{Multival|legend=1| 5 -4 -10 -18 -30 -12 }}
Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 66/65, 77/75


POTE generator: ~16/15 = 98.153
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 5 6 4 0 | 0 3 -5 -6 -1 7 }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 12, 37, 49, 110bcd }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1195.0786{{c}}, ~10/7 = 635.0197{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 637.6691{{c}}


Badness: 0.0623
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 17c, 32cf }}


== 11-limit ==
Badness (Sintel): 1.08


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
==== Progressive ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 1375/1372
Comma list: 26/25, 56/55, 64/63, 77/75


Mapping: [{{val| 1 2 2 2 2 }}, {{val| 0 -5 4 10 18 }}]
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 5 6 4 9 | 0 3 -5 -6 -1 -10 }}


POTE generator: ~16/15 = 98.019
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1196.0245{{c}}, ~10/7 = 634.6516{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 636.9528{{c}}


{{Val list|legend=1| 12, 37, 49 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 2f, 15f, 17c }}


Badness: 0.0408
Badness (Sintel): 1.35


== 13-limit ==
== Kangaroo ==
: ''For 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Kangaroo]].''


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Kangaroo splits the [[3/1|perfect twelfth]] into three [[35/24]][[~]][[40/27]] generators; its [[ploidacot]] is alpha-tricot. The 11-limit extension simply equates the generator to [[16/11]]. This favors a particularly sharp diatonic fifth (around 710–720 cents) because otherwise the ~[[5/4]] will be too flat.


Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 196/195, 275/273
Originally the canonical extension of 5-limit kangaroo was [[trienstonic clan #Parakangaroo|parakangaroo]], but it was decanonized in 2024 in favor of this extension because parakangaroo is an [[exotemperament]] that only supports the [[patent val]] of [[15edo]], while this extension is a bit more practical since it is at least low-medium accuracy and supports the [[patent val]]s of 15edo, [[17edo]] and [[32edo]].


Mapping: [{{val| 1 2 2 2 2 2 }}, {{val| 0 -5 4 10 18 21 }}]
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


POTE generator: ~16/15 = 97.910
[[Comma list]]: 64/63, 6125/5832


{{Val list|legend=1| 12f, 25f, 37, 49f }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -3 6 | 0 3 10 -6 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~35/24


Badness: 0.0309
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1198.1767{{c}}, ~35/24 = 637.2914{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -1.823 +9.919 -7.930 -3.514 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~35/24 = 638.1977{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +12.638 -4.336 +1.988 }}


= Fervor =
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 15, 32, 47b }}
== 5-limit ==


Subgroup: 2.3.5
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.91


Comma list: 67108864/61509375
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Mapping: [{{val| 1 4 -2 }}, {{val| 0 -5 9 }}]
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 245/242


POTE generator: ~64/45 = 577.705
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 -3 6 4 | 0 3 10 -6 -1 }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 25, 27 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1197.8893{{c}}, ~16/11 = 637.1922{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~16/11 = 638.2605{{c}}


Badness: 0.8526
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 32, 47b }}


== 7-limit ==
Badness (Sintel): 1.65


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
== Fervor ==
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Fervor]].''


Comma list: 64/63, 9604/9375
Fervor tempers out [[9604/9375]] and may be described as {{nowrap| 25 & 27 }}. It splits the [[6/1|6th harmonic]] into five generators of [[~]][[10/7]]; its ploidacot is beta-pentacot. The 11-limit extension simply equates the generator to [[16/11]]. [[27edo]] is about as accurate as it can be tuned.


Mapping: [{{val| 1 4 -2 -2 }}, {{val| 0 -5 9 10 }}]
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


{{Multival|legend=1| 5 -9 -10 -26 -30 2 }}
[[Comma list]]: 64/63, 9604/9375


POTE generator: ~7/5 = 577.777
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -1 7 8 | 0 5 -9 -10 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~10/7


{{Val list|legend=1| 25, 27 }}
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1196.2742{{c}}, ~10/7 = 620.2918{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -3.726 +3.230 +4.980 -1.550 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 622.3179{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +9.634 +12.826 +7.996 }}


Badness: 0.1085
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 25, 27 }}


== 11-limit ==
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.74


=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 1350/1331
Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 1350/1331


Mapping: [{{val| 1 4 -2 -2 3 }}, {{val| 0 -5 9 10 1 }}]
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 7 8 4 | 0 5 -9 -10 -1 }}


POTE generator: ~7/5 = 577.850
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1195.4148{{c}}, ~10/7 = 619.7729{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 622.2525{{c}}


{{Val list|legend=1| 25e, 27e }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 2, 25e, 27e }}


Badness: 0.0521
Badness (Sintel): 1.72
 
== 13-limit ==


=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 78/77, 507/500
Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 78/77, 507/500


Mapping: [{{val| 1 4 -2 -2 3 -4 }}, {{val| 0 -5 9 10 1 16 }}]
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 7 8 4 12 | 0 5 -9 -10 -1 -16 }}


POTE generator: ~7/5 = 578.060
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1195.6284{{c}}, ~10/7 = 619.6738{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 622.0631{{c}}


{{Val list|legend=1| 27e }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 2f, 27e }}


Badness: 0.0397
Badness (Sintel): 1.64


= Progress =
== Sixix ==
== 5-limit ==
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–chromatic equivalence continuum #Sixix (5-limit)]].''
{{See also| Dual-fifth temperaments #Dual-3 Sixix }}


Subgroup: 2.3.5
Sixix tempers out 3125/2916 and may be described as {{nowrap| 25 & 32 }}. It is related to the [[kleismic family]] in a way similar to the one between [[meantone]] and [[mavila]]. In both cases the generator is nominally a 6/5 and the complexity to generate major and minor chords is the same, but in sixix it is tuned extremely sharply, to the point where the 3rd and 5th harmonics are reached by going down instead of up, inverting the logic of chord construction. Its ploidacot is gamma-pentacot. An important val not in the [[optimal ET sequence]] is 39c, that is, [[39edo]] using the second-best approximation of [[5/4]] (the 369-cent one inherited from [[13edo]]). It is also supported by [[57edo|57b-edo]], which uses the sharper of [[57edo]]'s two diatonic fifths.


Comma list: 32768/30375
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 5 }}, {{val| 0 3 -5 }}]
[[Comma list]]: 64/63, 3125/2916


POTE generator: ~64/45 = 561.264
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 3 4 0 | 0 -5 -6 10 }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 15, 32c, 47bc, 62bc }}
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1198.9028{{c}}, ~6/5 = 337.1334{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -1.097 +9.086 -13.503 +2.508 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 337.4588{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +10.751 -11.066 +5.762 }}


Badness: 0.2461
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 18d, 25, 32 }}


== 7-limit ==
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 4.02


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Comma list: 64/63, 392/375
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 125/121


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 5 6 }}, {{val| 0 3 -5 -6 }}]
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 3 4 0 6 | 0 -5 -6 10 -9 }}


{{Multival|legend=1| 3 -5 -6 -15 -18 0 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1198.5480{{c}}, ~6/5 = 337.1557{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 337.6000{{c}}


POTE generator: ~7/5 = 562.122
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 25e, 32 }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 15, 32c, 79bcc, 111bcc }}
Badness (Sintel): 2.34


Badness: 0.0664
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


== 11-limit ==
Comma list: 40/39, 55/54, 64/63, 125/121


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 3 4 0 6 4 | 0 -5 -6 10 -9 -1 }}
 
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1197.7111{{c}}, ~6/5 = 336.8391{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 337.5336{{c}}


Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 77/75
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 25e, 32f }}


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 5 6 4 }}, {{val| 0 3 -5 -6 -1 }}]
Badness (Sintel): 1.91


POTE generator: ~7/5 = 562.085
=== 17-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17


{{Val list|legend=1| 15, 32c, 47bc, 79bcce }}
Comma list: 40/39, 55/54, 64/63, 85/84, 125/121


Badness: 0.0310
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 3 4 0 6 4 1 | 0 -5 -6 10 -9 -1 11 }}


=== 13-limit ===
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1197.7807{{c}}, ~6/5 = 336.8884{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 337.5279{{c}}


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 25e, 32f }}


Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 66/65, 77/75
Badness (Sintel): 2.00


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 5 6 4 0 }}, {{val| 0 3 -5 -6 -1 7 }}]
== Subgroup extensions ==
=== Supra (2.3.7.11) ===
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11


POTE generator: ~7/5 = 562.365
Comma list: 64/63, 99/98


{{Val list|legend=1| 15, 17c, 32cf }}
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 0 6 13 | 0 1 -2 -6 }}


Badness: 0.0262
{{Mapping|legend=4| 1 0 0 6 13 | 0 1 0 -2 -6 }}


=== Progressive ===
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1197.2650{{c}}, ~3/2 = 705.5803{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 707.4981{{c}}


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 12, 17, 39d, 56d }}


Comma list: 26/25, 56/55, 64/63, 77/75
Badness (Sintel): 0.352


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 5 6 4 9 }}, {{val| 0 3 -5 -6 -1 -10 }}]
Scales: [[supra7]], [[supra12]]


POTE generator: ~7/5 = 563.239
==== Supraphon ====
This extension maps [[13/11]] to the minor third (C–E♭), [[12/11]][[~]][[14/13]] to the augmented unison (C–C♯), and [[13/12]] to the diminished third (C–E𝄫).


{{Val list|legend=1| 15f, 17c, 32c, 49c }}
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13


Badness: 0.0327
Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 99/98


= Sixix =
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 0 6 13 18 | 0 1 -2 -6 -9 }}
:''See also: [[Dual-fifth temperaments#Dual-3 Sixix]]''
== 5-limit ==


Subgroup: 2.3.5
{{Mapping|legend=4| 1 0 0 6 13 18 | 0 1 0 -2 -6 -9 }}


Comma list: 3125/2916
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1197.1909{{c}}, ~3/2 = 704.4836{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 706.4289{{c}}


Mapping: [{{val| 1 3 4 }}, {{val| 0 -5 -6 }}]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 17 }}


POTE generator: ~6/5 = 338.365
Badness (Sintel): 0.498
 
Scales: [[supra7]], [[supra12]]


{{Val list|legend=1| 7, 25, 32 }}
=== Oceanfront (2.3.7.13/5) ===
This is the [[restriction]] of [[#Ultrapyth|ultrapyth]] to the 2.3.7.13/5 subgroup, mapping [[13/10]] to the major third.


Badness: 0.1531
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.7.13/5


== 7-limit ==
[[Comma list]]: 64/63 ({{monzo| 6 -2 -1 0 }}), 91/90 ({{monzo| -1 -2 1 1 }})


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 0 6 -5 | 0 1 -2 4 }}


Comma list: 64/63, 3125/2916
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[Tp tuning|Subgroup]] [[WE]]: ~2 = 1197.2656{{c}}, ~3/2 = 710.1993{{c}}
* [[Tp tuning|Subgroup]] [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 711.7413{{c}}


Mapping: [{{val| 1 3 4 0 }}, {{val| 0 -5 -6 10 }}]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 17, 22, 27, 32, 59 }}


POTE generator: ~6/5 = 337.4419
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 2.063 cents


{{Val list|legend=1| 7, 25, 32 }}
Scales: [[Oceanfront scales]]


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