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=== ~~2.3.5.13~~ ===

~~Kleismic lends itself to~~ a ~~natural extension to~~ the [[2.3.5.~~13 subgroup~~]], as the ~~hemitwelfth~~, ~~reached by~~ three generator ~~steps~~, ~~can be interpreted as~~ [[~~26/15~~]]. The structure of the temperament as dividing 3/1 into 6 equal parts can be deduced completely from its [[S-expression]]-based comma list of {{nowrap| {[[325/324|S10/S12 = S25⋅S26]], ([[625/624|S25]],) [[676/675|S13/S15 = S26]]} }}. Specifically, dividing 3/1 into two halves of ~26/15 is equivalent to dividing 4/3 into two halves of ~15/13, hence the [[semiparticular]] S13/S15 = ([[4/3|16/12]])/([[15/13]])2. From here, we notice that (26/15)/(13/9) = 6/5, so all that remains is dividing 13/9 into two 6/5's via the semiparticular S10/S12 = (13/9)/([[6/5|12/10]])2, hence explaining the mapping of the entire 2.3.5.13 subgroup. ~~This temperament has historically been called cata. Note that the~~ accuracy of it as providing a slightly flat 5/4 in ideal tunings lends a possible (but complex) extension to prime 41 via [[32/25]][[~]][[41/32]] ~~(via~~ [[1025/1024]]). (For a version of cata with a 1\5 period, see [[~~thunderclysmic~~]].)

=== Overview to extensions ===

==== Full 7-limit extensions ====

The second comma of the [[normal forms #Normal forms for commas|normal comma list]] defines which [[7-limit]] family member we are looking at. [[4375/4374]], the ragisma, gives catakleismic. [[875/864]], the keemic comma, gives keemun. [[5120/5103]], hemifamity, gives countercata. [[179200/177147]], the tolerant comma, gives metakleismic. [[64/63]], the archytas comma, gives catalan. Catakleismic, keemun, countercata, metakleismic, and catalan all have octave period and use the minor third as a generator; catakleismic, countercata, and metakleismic define the 7/4 more complexly but more accurately than keemun and catalan.

[[6144/6125]], the porwell comma, gives [[#Hemikleismic|hemikleismic]]. [[245/243]], sensamagic, gives [[#Clyde|clyde]]. [[1029/1024]], the gamelisma, gives [[#Tritikleismic|tritikleismic]]. [[10976/10935]], hemimage, gives [[#Marfifths|marfifths]]. [[1728/1715]], the orwellismia, gives [[#Kleiboh|kleiboh]]. [[2401/2400]], the breedsma, gives [[#Quadritikleismic|quadritikleismic]]. [[2460375/2458624]], the breeze comma, gives [[#Marthirds|marthirds]]. Hemikleismic splits the 6/5 in half to get a neutral second generator of ~35/32, and clyde similarly splits the 5/3 in half to get a ~9/7 generator. Marfifths splits the 12/5 into three. Kleiboh splits the 24/5 into three. Marthirds splits the 12/5 into four. Finally, tritikleismic has a 1/3-octave period with minor third generator, and quadritikleismic a 1/4-octave period with the minor third generator.

Temperaments involving larger splits include [[#Sqrtphi|sqrtphi]], [[#Quartkeenlig|quartkeenlig]], [[#Novemkleismic|novemkleismic]]. Those split the kleismic structure into five to nine parts.

=== 2.3.5.13 subgroup (cata) ===

The structure of the temperament as dividing 3/1 into 6 equal parts can be deduced completely from its [[S-expression]]-based comma list of {{nowrap| {[[325/324|S10/S12 = S25⋅S26]], ([[625/624|S25]],) [[676/675|S13/S15 = S26]]} }}. Specifically, dividing 3/1 into two halves of ~26/15 is equivalent to dividing 4/3 into two halves of ~15/13, hence the [[semiparticular]] S13/S15 = ([[4/3|16/12]])/([[15/13]])2. From here, we notice that (26/15)/(13/9) = 6/5, so all that remains is dividing 13/9 into two 6/5's via the semiparticular S10/S12 = (13/9)/([[6/5|12/10]])2, hence explaining the mapping of the entire 2.3.5.13 subgroup.

The accuracy of it as providing a slightly flat 5/4 in ideal tunings lends a possible (but complex) extension for prime 41 via [[32/25]][[~]][[41/32]], tempering out [[1025/1024]].

For a version of cata with a 1\5 period, see [[Thunderclysmic]].

Subgroup: 2.3.5.13

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Optimal tunings:

* ~~CTE~~: ~2 = ~~1\1, ~6/5 = 317~~.~~1110~~

* WE: ~2 = 1200.1210{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.1076{{c}}

* POTE: ~2 = 1\1, ~6/5 = 317.~~075611~~

* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0920{{c}}

* WE: ~2 = 1200.1210{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.1076{{c}}

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~~=== Overview to extensions ===~~

The second comma of the [[normal forms #Normal forms for commas|normal comma list]] defines which [[7-limit]] family member we are looking at. [[4375/4374]], the ragisma, gives catakleismic. [[875/864]], the keemic comma, gives keemun. [[5120/5103]], hemifamity, gives countercata. [[179200/177147]], the tolerant comma, gives metakleismic. [[64/63]], the archytas comma, gives catalan. Catakleismic, keemun, countercata, metakleismic, and catalan all have octave period and use the minor third as a generator; catakleismic, countercata, and metakleismic define the 7/4 more complexly but more accurately than keemun and catalan.

[[6144/6125]], the porwell comma, gives [[#Hemikleismic|hemikleismic]]. [[245/243]], sensamagic, gives [[#Clyde|clyde]]. [[1029/1024]], the gamelisma, gives [[#Tritikleismic|tritikleismic]]. [[10976/10935]], hemimage, gives [[#Marfifths|marfifths]]. [[1728/1715]], the orwellismia, gives [[#Kleiboh|kleiboh]]. [[2401/2400]], the breedsma, gives [[#Quadritikleismic|quadritikleismic]]. [[2460375/2458624]], the breeze comma, gives [[#Marthirds|marthirds]]. Hemikleismic splits the 6/5 in half to get a neutral second generator of ~35/32, and clyde similarly splits the 5/3 in half to get a ~9/7 generator. Marfifths splits the 12/5 into three. Kleiboh splits the 24/5 into three. Marthirds splits the 12/5 into four. Finally, tritikleismic has a 1/3-octave period with minor third generator, and quadritikleismic a 1/4-octave period with the minor third generator.

~~Temperaments involving larger splits include [[#Sqrtphi|sqrtphi]], [[#Quartkeenlig|quartkeenlig]], [[#Novemkleismic|novemkleismic]]. Those split the kleismic structure into five to nine parts.~~

== Catakleismic ==

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-=== 2.3.5.13 ===
-Kleismic lends itself to a natural extension to the [[2.3.5.13 subgroup]], as the hemitwelfth, reached by three generator steps, can be interpreted as [[26/15]]. The structure of the temperament as dividing 3/1 into 6 equal parts can be deduced completely from its [[S-expression]]-based comma list of {{nowrap| {[[325/324|S10/S12 = S25⋅S26]], ([[625/624|S25]],) [[676/675|S13/S15 = S26]]} }}. Specifically, dividing 3/1 into two halves of ~26/15 is equivalent to dividing 4/3 into two halves of ~15/13, hence the [[semiparticular]] S13/S15 = ([[4/3|16/12]])/([[15/13]])<sup>2</sup>. From here, we notice that (26/15)/(13/9) = 6/5, so all that remains is dividing 13/9 into two 6/5's via the semiparticular S10/S12 = (13/9)/([[6/5|12/10]])<sup>2</sup>, hence explaining the mapping of the entire 2.3.5.13 subgroup. This temperament has historically been called cata. Note that the accuracy of it as providing a slightly flat 5/4 in ideal tunings lends a possible (but complex) extension to prime 41 via [[32/25]][[~]][[41/32]] (via [[1025/1024]]). (For a version of cata with a 1\5 period, see [[thunderclysmic]].)
+=== Overview to extensions ===
+==== Full 7-limit extensions ====
+The second comma of the [[normal forms #Normal forms for commas|normal comma list]] defines which [[7-limit]] family member we are looking at. [[4375/4374]], the ragisma, gives catakleismic. [[875/864]], the keemic comma, gives keemun. [[5120/5103]], hemifamity, gives countercata. [[179200/177147]], the tolerant comma, gives metakleismic. [[64/63]], the archytas comma, gives catalan. Catakleismic, keemun, countercata, metakleismic, and catalan all have octave period and use the minor third as a generator; catakleismic, countercata, and metakleismic define the 7/4 more complexly but more accurately than keemun and catalan.
+[[6144/6125]], the porwell comma, gives [[#Hemikleismic|hemikleismic]]. [[245/243]], sensamagic, gives [[#Clyde|clyde]]. [[1029/1024]], the gamelisma, gives [[#Tritikleismic|tritikleismic]]. [[10976/10935]], hemimage, gives [[#Marfifths|marfifths]]. [[1728/1715]], the orwellismia, gives [[#Kleiboh|kleiboh]]. [[2401/2400]], the breedsma, gives [[#Quadritikleismic|quadritikleismic]]. [[2460375/2458624]], the breeze comma, gives [[#Marthirds|marthirds]]. Hemikleismic splits the 6/5 in half to get a neutral second generator of ~35/32, and clyde similarly splits the 5/3 in half to get a ~9/7 generator. Marfifths splits the 12/5 into three. Kleiboh splits the 24/5 into three. Marthirds splits the 12/5 into four. Finally, tritikleismic has a 1/3-octave period with minor third generator, and quadritikleismic a 1/4-octave period with the minor third generator.
+Temperaments involving larger splits include [[#Sqrtphi|sqrtphi]], [[#Quartkeenlig|quartkeenlig]], [[#Novemkleismic|novemkleismic]]. Those split the kleismic structure into five to nine parts.
+=== 2.3.5.13 subgroup (cata) ===
+The structure of the temperament as dividing 3/1 into 6 equal parts can be deduced completely from its [[S-expression]]-based comma list of {{nowrap| {[[325/324|S10/S12 = S25⋅S26]], ([[625/624|S25]],) [[676/675|S13/S15 = S26]]} }}. Specifically, dividing 3/1 into two halves of ~26/15 is equivalent to dividing 4/3 into two halves of ~15/13, hence the [[semiparticular]] S13/S15 = ([[4/3|16/12]])/([[15/13]])<sup>2</sup>. From here, we notice that (26/15)/(13/9) = 6/5, so all that remains is dividing 13/9 into two 6/5's via the semiparticular S10/S12 = (13/9)/([[6/5|12/10]])<sup>2</sup>, hence explaining the mapping of the entire 2.3.5.13 subgroup.
+The accuracy of it as providing a slightly flat 5/4 in ideal tunings lends a possible (but complex) extension for prime 41 via [[32/25]][[~]][[41/32]], tempering out [[1025/1024]].
+For a version of cata with a 1\5 period, see [[Thunderclysmic]].
 Subgroup: 2.3.5.13
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 Optimal tunings:
-* CTE: ~2 = 1\1, ~6/5 = 317.1110
+* WE: ~2 = 1200.1210{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.1076{{c}}
-* POTE: ~2 = 1\1, ~6/5 = 317.075611
 * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0920{{c}}
-* WE: ~2 = 1200.1210{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.1076{{c}}
 {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 19, 34, 53, 140, 193, 246 }}
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-=== Overview to extensions ===
-The second comma of the [[normal forms #Normal forms for commas|normal comma list]] defines which [[7-limit]] family member we are looking at. [[4375/4374]], the ragisma, gives catakleismic. [[875/864]], the keemic comma, gives keemun. [[5120/5103]], hemifamity, gives countercata. [[179200/177147]], the tolerant comma, gives metakleismic. [[64/63]], the archytas comma, gives catalan. Catakleismic, keemun, countercata, metakleismic, and catalan all have octave period and use the minor third as a generator; catakleismic, countercata, and metakleismic define the 7/4 more complexly but more accurately than keemun and catalan.
-[[6144/6125]], the porwell comma, gives [[#Hemikleismic|hemikleismic]]. [[245/243]], sensamagic, gives [[#Clyde|clyde]]. [[1029/1024]], the gamelisma, gives [[#Tritikleismic|tritikleismic]]. [[10976/10935]], hemimage, gives [[#Marfifths|marfifths]]. [[1728/1715]], the orwellismia, gives [[#Kleiboh|kleiboh]]. [[2401/2400]], the breedsma, gives [[#Quadritikleismic|quadritikleismic]]. [[2460375/2458624]], the breeze comma, gives [[#Marthirds|marthirds]]. Hemikleismic splits the 6/5 in half to get a neutral second generator of ~35/32, and clyde similarly splits the 5/3 in half to get a ~9/7 generator. Marfifths splits the 12/5 into three. Kleiboh splits the 24/5 into three. Marthirds splits the 12/5 into four. Finally, tritikleismic has a 1/3-octave period with minor third generator, and quadritikleismic a 1/4-octave period with the minor third generator.
-Temperaments involving larger splits include [[#Sqrtphi|sqrtphi]], [[#Quartkeenlig|quartkeenlig]], [[#Novemkleismic|novemkleismic]]. Those split the kleismic structure into five to nine parts.
 == Catakleismic ==
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+[[Category:Catalogs of rank-2 temperaments]]