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m unfortunately thats not how optimal ET sequences work. it's a defined thing by fumica's temperament evaluator. the standard ive been abiding by is that missing entries are to be discussed on a case-by-case basis
 
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The [[5-limit]] parent comma for the '''schismatic''' (or '''schismic''') '''family''' is the [[schisma]] of 32805/32768, which is the amount by which the [[Pythagorean comma]] exceeds the [[syntonic comma]] (81/80), or alternatively put, the difference between a [[5/4|just major third]] and a [[8192/6561|Pythagorean diminished fourth]].  
The [[5-limit]] parent comma for the '''schismatic''' (or '''schismic''') '''family''' is the [[schisma]] of 32805/32768, which is the amount by which the [[Pythagorean comma]] exceeds the [[syntonic comma]] (81/80), or alternatively put, the difference between a [[5/4|just major third]] and a [[8192/6561|Pythagorean diminished fourth]].  
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Garibaldi tempers out the [[garischisma]], equating the [[64/63|septimal comma]] with both the [[syntonic comma]] and the [[Pythagorean comma]]. The 7/4 is found at -14 fifths, represented by the double-diminished octave (C–C𝄫), or down-minor seventh (C-vB♭) with the down-arrow representing the comma step. It necessitates a sharper fifth than pure. Its [[S-expression]]-based comma list is {[[5120/5103|S8/S9]], [[225/224|S15]]}.  
Garibaldi tempers out the [[garischisma]], equating the [[64/63|septimal comma]] with both the [[syntonic comma]] and the [[Pythagorean comma]]. The 7/4 is found at -14 fifths, represented by the double-diminished octave (C–C𝄫), or down-minor seventh (C-vB♭) with the down-arrow representing the comma step. It necessitates a sharper fifth than pure. Its [[S-expression]]-based comma list is {[[5120/5103|S8/S9]], [[225/224|S15]]}.  
[[147edo]] (from 94+53) is a [[patent val]] tuning with 5 and 7 very close to equally out-of-tune in opposite directions s.t only 7/5 and 10/7 are inconsistent in the 9-odd-limit, so might be considered for (EG) a 41-note subset ([[12L 29s]]).


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== Term ==
== Term ==
Term tempers out the [[landscape comma]], mapping [[63/50]] to the 1/3-octave period. It can be described as {{nowrap| 12 & 171 }}, and is the unique temperament that equates a syntonic~Pythagorean comma with a stack of three [[marvel comma]]s. A [[septimal comma]] is then found as a stack of four marvel commas. In some 7-limit adaptive-tuning practice, the marvel comma corresponds to a melodic unit called a [[kleisma]], with three kleismas making a comma, so this temperament may be useful for modeling that. [[171edo]] makes for an excellent tuning.  
Term tempers out the [[landscape comma]], mapping [[63/50]] to the 1/3-octave period. It can be described as {{nowrap| 12 & 171 }}, and is the unique temperament that tempers together the syntonic and Pythagorean commas and equates it with a stack of three [[marvel comma]]s. A [[septimal comma]] is then found as a stack of four marvel commas. In certain 7-limit adaptive-tuning practice, the marvel comma corresponds to a melodic unit called a [[kleisma #As an interval region|kleisma]], with three kleismas making a comma, so this temperament may be useful for modeling that. [[171edo]] makes for an excellent tuning.  


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== Tertiaschis ==
== Tertiaschis ==
Named by [[Xenllium]] in 2021, tertiaschis may be described as {{nowrap| 94 & 159 }}. It has a [[~]][[11/10]] generator, sharing the same 2.3.5.11 subgroup with [[#Squirrel|squirrel]], but tempers out 1071875/1062882 for prime 7.  
Named by [[Xenllium]] in 2021, tertiaschis may be described as {{nowrap| 94 & 159 }}. It has a [[~]][[11/10]] generator, sharing the same 2.3.5.11 subgroup with [[#Squirrel|squirrel]], but tempers out 1071875/1062882 for prime 7. See also [[daemotertiaschis]] which is made using every other generator of tertiaschis.


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Badness (Sintel): 1.46
Badness (Sintel): 1.46
== Tridecafifths ==
Named by [[Eliora]] in 2023, tridecafifths may be described as the {{nowrap| 89 & 200 }} temperament. It divides the [[3/2|perfect fifth]] into thirteen quartertones, so its [[ploidacot]] is 13-cot. [[289edo]] gives a highly recommendable tuning.
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[[Comma list]]: 32805/32768, {{monzo| -14 -1 -9 13 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 7 6 | 0 13 -104 -71 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~1323/1280
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.1431{{c}}, ~1323/1280 = 53.9838{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.143 -0.023 +0.375 -0.816 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~1323/1280 = 53.9764{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.261 -0.221 -0.421 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 89, 200, 289 }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 10.9
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 441/440, 32805/32768, 55296000/55240493
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 7 6 4 | 0 13 -104 -71 -12 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.0311{{c}}, ~33/32 = 53.9766{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~33/32 = 53.9750{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 89, 200, 289 }}
Badness (Sintel): 4.23


== Subgroup extensions ==
== Subgroup extensions ==
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Badness (Sintel): 1.17
Badness (Sintel): 1.17


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