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iis 41&53&217, with mapping {{Mapping|1 0 0 25 -33 -13|0 1 0 -14 23 12|0 0 1 0 0 -1}}. It's otherwise known by in the wiki as ''[[cassaschismic]]'' (tad less rambly), also [[User:Eufalesio/Important Tables#Temperament properties of Ultimate edos (I care about)|here]]; but we will simply call it '''Ultimate'''. Our reasoning of this will become clear. Or at least, we expect you to understand why it's clear in our mind.

iis 53 & 94 & 217, with mapping {{Mapping|1 0 0 25 -33 -13|0 1 0 -14 23 12|0 0 1 0 0 -1}}. It's otherwise known by in the wiki as ''[[cassaschismic]]'' (tad less rambly), also [[User:Eufalesio/Important Tables#Temperament properties of Ultimate edos (I care about)|here]]; but we will simply call it '''Ultimate'''. Our reasoning of this will become clear. Or at least, we expect you to understand why it's clear in our mind.

Special thanks for [[Kite Giedraitis]] for feedback and edits.

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Look how goddamn accurate this temp is! Look, I even made a technical temp data section!

=== Batshit - ~~the temperament~~ or simply call it Insanic if profanity is not allowed ===

=== Batshit AKA Batshit-Insanic or simply call it Insanic if profanity is not allowed ===

[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19

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== Nomenclature and notation ==

This notation can be easily spoken as well as written, adapting Kite's color notation and ups and downs into a nice collage. At least, the part of Ultimate. ~~What's~~ beyond Ultimate, not ~~my problem~~.

This notation can be easily spoken as well as written, adapting Kite's color notation and ups and downs into a nice collage. At least, the part of Ultimate. For the things beyond Ultimate I <s>stole</s> borrowed some Sagittal nomenclature of the Magrathean symbol set that had the same comma functions. Behold!

[[File:ULTRAOLYMPIANsymbolset.jpg|center|thumb|960x960px|The name of this notation is henceforth Ultraolympic notation. If swear words can't be used, use ''Insanic'' instead of ''Batshit'' or ''Batshit-Insanic''.

What can I say... I like crude, powerful language. The English language has a beautiful expression for this special obsession that I will not '''not''' use.]]

=== Easy tables ===

These are all the accidentals you need to know to write in Ultimate, and even beyond it. For most cases, there is no need to go beyond two of anything, in the case of pomas however, you can end up using three or even more if you don't respell enharmonically ~~(if possible)~~, or go too far down the chain of fifths. One instance is writing 5/4 above a 16/11, which is 20/11. Above a C, this is '''⇊'''G - ^'''↓⇊'''B.

These are all the accidentals you need to know to write in Ultimate, and even beyond it. For most cases, there is no need to go beyond two of anything, in the case of pomas however, you can end up using three or even more if you don't respell enharmonically with buzzardsmas, or go too far down the chain of fifths. One instance is writing 5/4 above a 16/11, which is 20/11. Above a C, this is '''⇊'''G - ^'''↓⇊'''B. The phonetic coding presented and the alterations are

{| class="wikitable"

|+

! rowspan="2" |Main accidentals

(ASCII)

! colspan="9" |Ultimate

! colspan="8" |Beyond Ultimate

! colspan="6" |Beyond Ultimate

|-

!Natural

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! colspan="2" |Poma/Ruma

! colspan="2" |[[Buzzardsma|Buzzardsma*]]

! colspan="6" |<nowiki>Saruyoma - Sasaruma | Layoma</nowiki>

! colspan="4" |<nowiki>Saruyoma - Sasaruma | Layoma</nowiki>

! colspan="2" |Schismina

! colspan="2" |Tina

|-

| rowspan="2" |Symbols

| rowspan="2" ~~|{{Sagittal~~|h}}

| rowspan="2" |h

~~|{{Sagittal~~|#}}

|#

|~~{{Sagittal~~|~~b}}~~

|b

|↑

|S

|~~'''↓'''~~

|s

| rowspan="2" |M

| rowspan="2" |m

~~| rowspan="2" |μ~~

| rowspan="2" |^

| rowspan="2" |v

| ~~colspan~~="2" |<nowiki>/| |\</nowiki>

| rowspan="2" |<nowiki>Y | X</nowiki>

| ~~colspan~~="2" |<nowiki>\| |/</nowiki>

| rowspan="2" |<nowiki>y | x</nowiki>

| rowspan="2" |~~Ȯ Ö Ō~~

| rowspan="2" |' " "'

| rowspan="2" |~~Ọ O̤ O̱~~

| rowspan="2" |. .. …

| rowspan="2" | †

| rowspan="2" | 𐕣

| rowspan="2" | ‡

|-

|~~{{Sagittal|x}}~~

|##

~~|{{Sagittal~~|bb}}

|bb

|⇈

|H

|⇊

|h

~~|<nowiki>/|^</nowiki>~~

~~<nowiki>|</nowiki>\^~~

~~|<nowiki>/|v</nowiki>~~

~~<nowiki>|</nowiki>\v~~

|~~<nowiki>\|^ </nowiki>~~

~~<nowiki>|</nowiki>/^~~

~~|<nowiki>\|v</nowiki>~~

~~<nowiki>~~|~~</nowiki>/v~~

|-

| rowspan="2" |Spoken

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|sharp

|flat

|po

|super

super

|sub

|qu

| rowspan="2" |me

sub

| rowspan="2" |mo

| rowspan="2" |mu

|up

|down

| ~~colspan~~="8" rowspan="2" |~~???~~

| rowspan="2" |<nowiki>gi | bi</nowiki>

| rowspan="2" |<nowiki>go | bo</nowiki>

| rowspan="2" |mi

| rowspan="2" |mo

| rowspan="2" |qui

| rowspan="2" |quo

|-

|–

|~~pop(o)~~

|hyper

hyper

|hypo

|~~quq(u)~~

hypo

|dup

|dud

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|¡

|!

~~|{{Sagittal~~|t}}

|t

~~|{{Sagittal~~|d}}

|d

|-

|¡↑

|S¡

|~~'''~~!~~↓'''~~

|s!

~~|{{Sagittal~~|t#}}

|t#

~~|{{Sagittal~~|db}}

|db

|-

| rowspan="2" |Spoken

|~~halfpo~~

|semiper

semiper

|semisub

|~~halfqu~~

|semiaug

semisub

|semidim

|~~halfsharp~~

semiaug

|~~halfflat~~

semidim

|-

|~~sesquipo~~

|sesquiper

sesquiper

|sesquisub

|~~sesquiqu~~

|sesquiaug

sesquisub

|sesquidim

|~~sesquisharp~~

sesquiaug

|~~sesquiflat~~

sesquidim

|}

<nowiki>*</nowiki>Not strictly necessary, but it does simplify notation immensely. The buzzardsma equals the mercator comma in Ultimate (also being tempered out in 53edo), but not beyond it. It is useful for ultra-long chains of fifths and notating p17, which requires at least four rumas. It follows the following equation: ⇈⇈P1 = mm2, ⇈⇈m2 = m'''↓'''M2; 17/16 is then |\^μ↑m2.

<big>Of course, you can use whatever phonetic coding you want, as long as it's not ''too bespoke''. IFYKYK.</big>

=== Syntax ===

For an accidental: (schismina) + (sasaruma) + [saruyoma] + [poma] + [apotome]

For an accidental: (tina) + (schismina) + (sasaruma/layoma) + [saruyoma] + [poma] + [apotome]

* v# = downsharp

* ^^'''⇊''' = ~~dupquq~~

* ^^'''⇊''' = duphypo

For intervals: [accidental] + [5L 7s 6|5 nominal]

* '''↓'''M2 = ~~qumajor~~ second

* '''↓'''M2 = submajor second

* ^'''↓'''M3 = ~~upqumajor~~ third

* ^'''↓'''M3 = upsubmajor third

* v⇈m6 = ~~downpopominor~~ sixth

* v⇈m6 = downhyperminor sixth

For pitches: [5L 7s 6|5 nominal] + [accidental] + [octave number]

For pitches: [5L 7s 6|5 nominal] + [accidental] + [octave number] (scientific please, A4=440Hz)

* D4 = dee four

* E⇈b4 = e ~~popoflat~~ four

* E⇈b4 = e hyperflat four

* F^'''↓'''#5 = ef ~~upqusharp~~ five

* F^'''↓'''#5 = ef upsubsharp five

I left out chords on purpose. Kite has made much better systems for naming them; see [[Kite's color notation#Chord names]] and [[Hi-lo notation]].

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-iis 41&53&217, with mapping {{Mapping|1 0 0 25 -33 -13|0 1 0 -14 23 12|0 0 1 0 0 -1}}. It's otherwise known by in the wiki as ''[[cassaschismic]]'' (tad less rambly), also [[User:Eufalesio/Important Tables#Temperament properties of Ultimate edos (I care about)|here]]; but we will simply call it '''Ultimate'''. Our reasoning of this will become clear. Or at least, we expect you to understand why it's clear in our mind.
+iis 53 & 94 & 217, with mapping {{Mapping|1 0 0 25 -33 -13|0 1 0 -14 23 12|0 0 1 0 0 -1}}. It's otherwise known by in the wiki as ''[[cassaschismic]]'' (tad less rambly), also [[User:Eufalesio/Important Tables#Temperament properties of Ultimate edos (I care about)|here]]; but we will simply call it '''Ultimate'''. Our reasoning of this will become clear. Or at least, we expect you to understand why it's clear in our mind.
 Special thanks for [[Kite Giedraitis]] for feedback and edits.
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 Look how goddamn accurate this temp is! Look, I even made a technical temp data section!
-=== Batshit - the temperament <small><small><small><small><small>or simply call it</small></small></small></small></small> Insanic<small><small><small><small><small> if profanity is not allowed</small></small></small></small></small> ===
+=== Batshit AKA Batshit-Insanic <small><small><small><small><small>or simply call it</small></small></small></small></small> Insanic<small><small><small><small><small> if profanity is not allowed</small></small></small></small></small> ===
 [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
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 == Nomenclature and notation ==
-This notation can be easily spoken as well as written, adapting Kite's color notation and ups and downs into a nice collage. At least, the part of Ultimate. What's beyond Ultimate, not my problem.
+This notation can be easily spoken as well as written, adapting Kite's color notation and ups and downs into a nice collage. At least, the part of Ultimate. For the things beyond Ultimate I <s>stole</s> borrowed some Sagittal nomenclature of the Magrathean symbol set that had the same comma functions. Behold!
+[[File:ULTRAOLYMPIANsymbolset.jpg|center|thumb|960x960px|The name of this notation is henceforth Ultraolympic notation. If swear words can't be used, use ''Insanic'' instead of ''Batshit'' or ''Batshit-Insanic''.
+What can I say... I like crude, powerful language. The English language has a beautiful expression for this special obsession that I will not '''not''' use.]]
 === Easy tables ===
-These are all the accidentals you need to know to write in Ultimate, and even beyond it. For most cases, there is no need to go beyond two of anything, in the case of pomas however, you can end up using three or even more if you don't respell enharmonically (if possible), or go too far down the chain of fifths. One instance is writing 5/4 above a 16/11, which is 20/11. Above a C, this is '''⇊'''G - ^'''↓⇊'''B.
+These are all the accidentals you need to know to write in Ultimate, and even beyond it. For most cases, there is no need to go beyond two of anything, in the case of pomas however, you can end up using three or even more if you don't respell enharmonically with buzzardsmas, or go too far down the chain of fifths. One instance is writing 5/4 above a 16/11, which is 20/11. Above a C, this is '''⇊'''G - ^'''↓⇊'''B. The phonetic coding presented and the alterations are
 {| class="wikitable"
 |+
 ! rowspan="2" |Main accidentals
+(ASCII)
 ! colspan="9" |Ultimate
-! colspan="8" |Beyond Ultimate
+! colspan="6" |Beyond Ultimate
 |-
 !Natural
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 ! colspan="2" |Poma/Ruma
 ! colspan="2" |[[Buzzardsma|Buzzardsma*]]
-! colspan="6" |<small><nowiki>Saruyoma - Sasaruma | Layoma</nowiki></small>
+! colspan="4" |<small><nowiki>Saruyoma - Sasaruma | Layoma</nowiki></small>
 ! colspan="2" |Schismina
 ! colspan="2" |Tina
 |-
 | rowspan="2" |Symbols
-| rowspan="2" |{{Sagittal|h}}
+| rowspan="2" |h
-|{{Sagittal|#}}
+|#
-|{{Sagittal|b}}
+|b
-|↑
+|S
-|'''↓'''
+|s
+| rowspan="2" |M
 | rowspan="2" |m
-| rowspan="2" |μ
 | rowspan="2" |^
 | rowspan="2" |v
-| colspan="2" |<nowiki>/| |\</nowiki>
+| rowspan="2" |<nowiki>Y | X</nowiki>
-| colspan="2" |<nowiki>\| |/</nowiki>
+| rowspan="2" |<nowiki>y | x</nowiki>
-| rowspan="2" |Ȯ Ö Ō
+| rowspan="2" |' " "'
-| rowspan="2" |Ọ O̤ O̱
+| rowspan="2" |. .. …
 | rowspan="2" | †
-| rowspan="2" | 𐕣
+| rowspan="2" | ‡
 |-
-|{{Sagittal|x}}
+|##
-|{{Sagittal|bb}}
+|bb
-|⇈
+|H
-|⇊
+|h
-|<nowiki>/|^</nowiki>
-<nowiki>|</nowiki>\^
-|<nowiki>/|v</nowiki>
-<nowiki>|</nowiki>\v
-|<nowiki>\|^ </nowiki>
-<nowiki>|</nowiki>/^
-|<nowiki>\|v</nowiki>
-<nowiki>|</nowiki>/v
 |-
 | rowspan="2" |Spoken
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 |sharp
 |flat
-|po
+|super
-super
+|sub
-|qu
+| rowspan="2" |me
-sub
-| rowspan="2" |mo
 | rowspan="2" |mu
 |up
 |down
-| colspan="8" rowspan="2" |???
+| rowspan="2" |<nowiki>gi | bi</nowiki>
+| rowspan="2" |<nowiki>go | bo</nowiki>
+| rowspan="2" |mi
+| rowspan="2" |mo
+| rowspan="2" |qui
+| rowspan="2" |quo
 |-
 |–
 |–
-|pop(o)
+|hyper
-hyper
+|hypo
-|quq(u)
-hypo
 |dup
 |dud
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 |¡
 |!
-|{{Sagittal|t}}
+|t
-|{{Sagittal|d}}
+|d
 |-
-|¡↑
+|S¡
-|'''!↓'''
+|s!
-|{{Sagittal|t#}}
+|t#
-|{{Sagittal|db}}
+|db
 |-
 | rowspan="2" |Spoken
-|halfpo
+|semiper
-semiper
+|semisub
-|halfqu
+|semiaug
-semisub
+|semidim
-|halfsharp
-semiaug
-|halfflat
-semidim
 |-
-|sesquipo
+|sesquiper
-sesquiper
+|sesquisub
-|sesquiqu
+|sesquiaug
-sesquisub
+|sesquidim
-|sesquisharp
-sesquiaug
-|sesquiflat
-sesquidim
 |}
 <nowiki>*</nowiki>Not strictly necessary, but it does simplify notation immensely. The buzzardsma equals the mercator comma in Ultimate (also being tempered out in 53edo), but not beyond it. It is useful for ultra-long chains of fifths and notating p17, which requires at least four rumas. It follows the following equation: ⇈⇈P1 = mm2, ⇈⇈m2 = m'''↓'''M2; 17/16 is then |\^μ↑m2.
+<big>Of course, you can use whatever phonetic coding you want, as long as it's not ''too bespoke''. IFYKYK.</big>
 === Syntax ===
-For an accidental: (schismina) + (sasaruma) + [saruyoma] + [poma] + [apotome]
+For an accidental: (tina) + (schismina) + (sasaruma/layoma) + [saruyoma] + [poma] + [apotome]
 * v# = downsharp
-* ^^'''⇊''' = dupquq
+* ^^'''⇊''' = duphypo
 For intervals: [accidental] + [5L 7s 6|5 nominal]
-* '''↓'''M2 = qumajor second
+* '''↓'''M2 = submajor second
-* ^'''↓'''M3 = upqumajor third
+* ^'''↓'''M3 = upsubmajor third
-* v⇈m6 = downpopominor sixth
+* v⇈m6 = downhyperminor sixth
-For pitches: [5L 7s 6|5 nominal] + [accidental] + [octave number]
+For pitches: [5L 7s 6|5 nominal] + [accidental] + [octave number] <small>(scientific please, A4=440Hz)</small>
 * D4 = dee four
-* E⇈b4 = e popoflat four
+* E⇈b4 = e hyperflat four
-* F^'''↓'''#5 = ef upqusharp five
+* F^'''↓'''#5 = ef upsubsharp five
+I left out chords on purpose. Kite has made much better systems for naming them; see [[Kite's color notation#Chord names]] and [[Hi-lo notation]].