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https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-write-microtonal-music
https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-write-microtonal-music
7-limit gamelan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaLUG_CmNR0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamelan_jegog
Pergen (P8/2, P5) has 2 obvious yaza temps. The symmetry is striking. All 4 tetrads have "add seven" names.
* biruyo & ru (pajara): sharp 5th e.g. 22edo, P = vA4 = ^d5, EU = ^^d2, 4:5:6:7 = Iv,7  9:7:6:5 = I,^7
* biruyo & gu (injera): a flat fifth e.g. 26edo, P = ^A4 = vd5, EU = vvd2, 4:5:6:7 = I,v7  9:7:6:5 = I^,7


=== Manifesto ===
=== Manifesto ===
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A mathematician, a physicist and an engineer are each tasked with finding out the volume of a ball. The mathematician gets a piece of string, measures the circumference, solves for the radius and calculates the volume. The physicist fills a large container with water, puts the ball in it and measures the change in volume when it sinks. The engineer finds the ball's serial number and looks up the volume on the internet.
A mathematician, a physicist and an engineer are each tasked with finding out the volume of a ball. The mathematician gets a piece of string, measures the circumference, solves for the radius and calculates the volume. The physicist fills a large container with water, puts the ball in it and measures the change in volume when it sinks. The engineer finds the ball's serial number and looks up the volume on the internet.


Three different professions, three different ways of thinking. In the microtonal world, the mathematician is roughly analogous to the theorist, notation creator, xen software author and/or instrument builder/designer. The physicist = composer/arranger, and the engineer = performing musician. Or maybe the instrument builder is more of an engineer. Whatever, the point is there are very different levels of abstraction going on.
Three different professions, three different ways of thinking. In the microtonal world, the mathematician is roughly analogous to the theorist, notation creator, xen software author and/or instrument builder/designer. The physicist is the composer/arranger, and the engineer is the performing musician. Or maybe the instrument builder is more of an engineer. Whatever, the point is there are very different levels of abstraction going on.


IMO the xenwiki caters far too much to the mathematician and not nearly enough to the physicist/engineer. It creates a feedback loop wherein the mathiness repels non-mathy types and attracts mathy types, who then make the xenwiki even more mathy. two examples:
IMO the xenwiki caters far too much to the mathematician and not nearly enough to the physicist/engineer. It creates a feedback loop wherein the mathiness repels non-mathy types and attracts mathy types, who then make the xenwiki even more mathy. Two examples:


'''Excessive precision''', especially in cents. No one can hear a tenth of a cent except under certain carefully controlled conditions. Ask yourself, have you ever walked across the room while listening to music? Have you ever noticed the doppler effect causing the tonic to drift off, then drift back when you stop walking? If not, you have no business insisting on tenth of a cent accuracy, let alone the thousandths or even millionths of a cent found here.
'''Excessive precision''', especially in cents. No one can hear a tenth of a cent except under certain carefully controlled conditions. Ask yourself, have you ever walked across the room while listening to music? Have you ever noticed the doppler effect causing the tonic to drift off, then drift back when you stop walking? If not, you have no business insisting on tenth of a cent accuracy, let alone the thousandths or even millionths of a cent found here.
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* any edo in the thousands or higher, arguably those in the hundreds as well
* any edo in the thousands or higher, arguably those in the hundreds as well
* sentences like "A maximal evenness scale deriving from the 118 & 665 temperament, known as [[vavoom]], can also theoretically serve as a calendar leap week cycle corresponding to a year length of 365d 5h 48m 37+17/19s, about 7 seconds shorter than the average length of the tropical year today."
* sentences like "A maximal evenness scale deriving from the 118 & 665 temperament, known as [[vavoom]], can also theoretically serve as a calendar leap week cycle corresponding to a year length of 365d 5h 48m 37+17/19s, about 7 seconds shorter than the average length of the tropical year today."
=== The 5 stages of microtonality: ===
# 400¢ is a perfectly good major 3rd
# My that Renaissance choir sounds good!
# 400¢ is 14¢ sharp of 5/4, yuck
# And it's 18¢ flat of 14/11, yuck
# 400¢ is a perfectly good 34/27


=== Groaner puns ===
=== Groaner puns ===
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