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'''Septimal meantone''' or '''7-limit meantone''' is a natural extension of meantone which also addresses septimal intervals including but not limited to [[7/4]], [[7/5]], and [[7/6]]. By extending the [[circle of fifths]], consonant septimal intervals start to appear. For example, 7/4 is represented by an augmented sixth and is notably present in the augmented sixth chord; it can also be seen as a diesis-flat minor seventh. | '''Septimal meantone''' or '''7-limit meantone''' is a natural extension of meantone which also addresses septimal intervals including but not limited to [[7/4]], [[7/5]], and [[7/6]]. By extending the [[circle of fifths]], consonant septimal intervals start to appear. For example, 7/4 is represented by an augmented sixth and is notably present in the augmented sixth chord; it can also be seen as a diesis-flat minor seventh. | ||
See [[ | See [[huygens vs meanpop]] for a comparison of undecimal (11-limit) extensions. | ||
=== Other septimal extensions === | === Other septimal extensions === | ||
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Common meantone tunings can be classified into [[eigenmonzo|eigenmonzo (unchanged-interval)]] tunings, edo tunings, prime-optimized tunings and others. In eigenmonzo tunings such as the [[quarter-comma meantone]], a certain interval is tuned pure and certain others are equally off. Edo tunings like [[31edo]] have rational size relationship between steps, and happen to send an additional comma to unison. Prime-optimized tunings are optimized for all intervals. For a more complete list, see the table below. These different tunings are referred to as "temperaments" in traditional terms. | Common meantone tunings can be classified into [[eigenmonzo|eigenmonzo (unchanged-interval)]] tunings, edo tunings, prime-optimized tunings and others. In eigenmonzo tunings such as the [[quarter-comma meantone]], a certain interval is tuned pure and certain others are equally off. Edo tunings like [[31edo]] have rational size relationship between steps, and happen to send an additional comma to unison. Prime-optimized tunings are optimized for all intervals. For a more complete list, see the table below. These different tunings are referred to as "temperaments" in traditional terms. | ||
; Notable unchanged-interval | ; Notable eigenmonzo (unchanged-interval) tunings | ||
* [[1/2-comma meantone]] – with eigenmonzo [[10/9]] | * [[1/2-comma meantone]] – with eigenmonzo [[10/9]] | ||
* [[1/3-comma meantone]] – with eigenmonzo [[5/3]] | * [[1/3-comma meantone]] – with eigenmonzo [[5/3]] | ||
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* [[Lucy tuning]] | * [[Lucy tuning]] | ||
* Equal beating tunings | * Equal beating tunings | ||
* 5-limit [[DKW theory|DKW]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.353{{c}} | |||
=== Prime-optimized tunings === | === Prime-optimized tunings === | ||
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! rowspan="2" | | ! rowspan="2" | | ||
! colspan=" | ! colspan="3" | Euclidean | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Constrained | ! Constrained | ||
! Constrained & skewed | ! Constrained & skewed | ||
! Destretched | |||
|- | |- | ||
! Equilateral | ! Equilateral | ||
| CEE: ~3/2 = 696. | | CEE: ~3/2 = 696.8947{{c}}<br>(4/17 comma) | ||
| CSEE: ~3/2 = 696. | | CSEE: ~3/2 = 696.4534{{c}}<br>(11/43 comma) | ||
| POEE: ~3/2 = 695.2311{{c}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
! Tenney | ! Tenney | ||
| CTE: ~3/2 = 697. | | CTE: ~3/2 = 697.2143{{c}} | ||
| CWE: ~3/2 = 696. | | CWE: ~3/2 = 696.6512{{c}} | ||
| POTE: ~3/2 = 696.2387{{c}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
! Benedetti, <br>Wilson | ! Benedetti, <br>Wilson | ||
| CBE: ~3/2 = 697. | | CBE: ~3/2 = 697.3738{{c}}<br>(36/169 comma) | ||
| CSBE: ~3/2 = 696. | | CSBE: ~3/2 = 696.7868{{c}}<br>(31/129 comma) | ||
| POBE: ~3/2 = 696.2984{{c}} | |||
|} | |} | ||
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! rowspan="2" | | ! rowspan="2" | | ||
! colspan=" | ! colspan="3" | Euclidean | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Constrained | ! Constrained | ||
! Constrained & skewed | ! Constrained & skewed | ||
! Destretched | |||
|- | |- | ||
! Equilateral | ! Equilateral | ||
| CEE: ~3/2 = 696. | | CEE: ~3/2 = 696.8843{{c}} | ||
| CSEE: ~3/2 = 696. | | CSEE: ~3/2 = 696.7248{{c}} | ||
| POEE: ~3/2 = 696.4375{{c}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
! Tenney | ! Tenney | ||
| CTE: ~3/2 = 696. | | CTE: ~3/2 = 696.9521{{c}} | ||
| CWE: ~3/2 = 696. | | CWE: ~3/2 = 696.6562{{c}} | ||
| POTE: ~3/2 = 696.4949{{c}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
! Benedetti, <br>Wilson | ! Benedetti, <br>Wilson | ||
| CBE: ~3/2 = 697. | | CBE: ~3/2 = 697.0147{{c}} | ||
| CSBE: ~3/2 = 696. | | CSBE: ~3/2 = 696.6306{{c}} | ||
| POBE: ~3/2 = 696.4596{{c}} | |||
|} | |||
=== Target tunings === | |||
{| class="wikitable center-all mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" | |||
|+ style="white-space: nowrap;" | Minimax tunings | |||
|- | |||
! Target | |||
! Generator | |||
! Eigenmonzo* | |||
|- | |||
| 5-odd-limit | |||
| ~3/2 = 696.578{{c}} | |||
| 5/4 | |||
|- | |||
| 7-odd-limit | |||
| ~3/2 = 696.578{{c}} | |||
| 5/4 | |||
|- | |||
| 9-odd-limit | |||
| ~3/2 = 696.578{{c}} | |||
| 5/4 | |||
|} | |||
{| class="wikitable center-all left-3 mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" | |||
|+ style="white-space: nowrap;" | Least squares tunings | |||
|- | |||
! Target | |||
! Generator | |||
! Eigenmonzo* | |||
|- | |||
| 5-odd-limit | |||
| ~3/2 = 696.165{{c}}<br>(7/26 comma) | |||
| {{Monzo| -13 -2 7 }} | |||
|- | |||
| 7-odd-limit | |||
| ~3/2 = 696.648{{c}} | |||
| {{Monzo| -55 -11 1 25 }} | |||
|- | |||
| 9-odd-limit | |||
| ~3/2 = 696.436{{c}} | |||
| {{Monzo| 19 9 -1 -11 }} | |||
|} | |} | ||
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| [[9/5]] | | [[9/5]] | ||
| 691.202 | | 691.202 | ||
| '''Lower bound of 9-odd-limit diamond tradeoff'''<br | | '''Lower bound of 9-odd-limit diamond tradeoff'''<br>[[1/2-comma meantone|1/2 comma]], tunings flatter than this do not fit the original sense of meantone, since their whole tones are no longer between 9/8 and 10/9 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[59edo|34\59]] | | [[59edo|34\59]] | ||
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| {{nowrap|''f''<sup>4</sup> | | {{nowrap| ''f''<sup>4</sup> − 2''f'' − 2 {{=}} 0 }} | ||
| 695.630 | | 695.630 | ||
| 1–3–5 equal-beating tuning, Wilson's "metameantone" ([[DR]] 4:5:6), virtually 5/17 comma | | 1–3–5 equal-beating tuning, Wilson's "metameantone" ([[DR]] 4:5:6), virtually 5/17 comma | ||
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| [[15/14]] | | [[15/14]] | ||
| 696.111 | | 696.111 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
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| [[78125/73728]] | | [[78125/73728]] | ||
| 696.165 | | 696.165 | ||
| [[7/26-comma meantone|7/26 comma]], | | [[7/26-comma meantone|7/26 comma]], 5-odd-limit least squares | ||
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| {{nowrap|(8 | | {{nowrap| (8 − φ)\11 }} | ||
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| 696.214 | | 696.214 | ||
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| 696.399 | | 696.399 | ||
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| 696.626 | | 696.626 | ||
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| [[31edo|18\31]] | | [[31edo|18\31]] | ||
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| [[1875/1024]] | | [[1875/1024]] | ||
| 696.895 | | 696.895 | ||
| [[4/17-comma meantone|4/17 comma]]; | | [[4/17-comma meantone|4/17 comma]]; 5-limit [[CEE]] tuning | ||
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$$ n = (g_J - g)/g_c $$ | $$ n = (g_J - g)/g_c $$ | ||
== Music == | == Music == |