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::::: I think what's going on is that for a tuning to meet the definition of what Sintel's talking about, two separate criteria have to be met. The first is that the tuning in question can't be noticeably different from something else on the wiki- this is something that Sintel's first example does well. However, the second is that the tuning in question should not offer anything substantially new compared to a previously existing tuning. Is this right? --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:37, 8 May 2025 (UTC) | ::::: I think what's going on is that for a tuning to meet the definition of what Sintel's talking about, two separate criteria have to be met. The first is that the tuning in question can't be noticeably different from something else on the wiki- this is something that Sintel's first example does well. However, the second is that the tuning in question should not offer anything substantially new compared to a previously existing tuning. Is this right? --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:37, 8 May 2025 (UTC) | ||
:::::: Sintel, I do think you were barking up the right tree with your second example, but we just need to find a better example along those same lines. First example that comes to my mind is 31edo versus other quarter-comma meantone temperaments with only 31 | :::::: Sintel, I do think you were barking up the right tree with your second example, but we just need to find a better example along those same lines. First example that comes to my mind is 31edo versus other quarter-comma meantone temperaments with only 31 notes and pure octaves. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:48, 8 May 2025 (UTC) | ||
::::::: I have updated the minor variations guideline so it now says the following: | |||
* '''Minor variations''': Systems that differ only trivially from existing systems. For example, a meantone tuning with a fifth very close to quarter-comma meantone should not get its own page. It can be added to the existing tunings on the meantone page. | |||
** ''This guideline does not apply to nearby equal divisions of ''simple'' intervals (e.g. 12ed2/1, 19ed3/1, and 7ed3/2), because those pages are still useful for navigating between neighbouring ETs using their infobox.'' | |||
::::::: Are you all happy with this? | |||
::::::: --[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 23:40, 8 May 2025 (UTC) | |||
** ''This guideline also does not apply to temperaments that might happen to give similar tunings of common intervals, but also do something else, such as an [[Alphatricot]] relative that happens to give a fifth close to quarter-comma meantone, but also divides the twelfth in 3, thereby allowing generator chains that could not exist in actual quarter-comma meantone.'' | |||
** ''In addition, it is best to exercise caution when considering whether to apply these guidelines to existing pages.'' | |||
::::::::: [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 06:12, 9 May 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::::: Since the "minor variations" dot point is getting too clunky and wordy, I just decided to follow Sintel's suggestion earlier in this conversation and just remove the "minor variations" dot point entirely. | |||
::::::::: Is everybody happy for us to move this page into main space and make it official now? Given that the Discord voted 93% in favour, I feel eager to put it into action unless there are still outstanding objections? | |||
::::::::: --[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 23:40, 8 May 2025 (UTC) | |||
Sure, seem great! I'd prefer if we got at least one sysop to sign off on it "officially" though. – [[User:Sintel|Sintel🎏]] ([[User_talk:Sintel|talk]]) 11:26, 9 May 2025 (UTC) | |||
: Put my vote in for that (including getting sysop signoff). [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 14:49, 9 May 2025 (UTC) | |||