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[[File:Didacus.png|alt=Didacus.png|thumb|600x560px|A chart of the tuning spectrum of undecimal didacus, showing the offsets of prime harmonics 5, 7, and 11, as a function of the generator; all EDO tunings are shown with vertical lines whose length indicates the EDO's tolerance, i.e. half of its step size in either direction of just, and some small EDOs supporting the temperament are labeled.]]
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The '''hemimean clan''' [[Tempering out|tempers out]] the hemimean comma, [[3136/3125]], with [[monzo]] {{monzo| 6 0 -5 2 }}, such that [[7/4]] is split into five steps, of which two make [[5/4]] and three make [[7/5]]; this defines the [[2.5.7 subgroup]] temperament [[didacus]], generated by a tempered hemithird of [[28/25]].
The '''hemimean clan''' [[Tempering out|tempers out]] the hemimean comma, [[3136/3125]], with [[monzo]] {{monzo| 6 0 -5 2 }}, such that [[7/4]] is split into five steps, of which two make [[5/4]] and three make [[7/5]]; this defines the [[2.5.7 subgroup]] temperament [[didacus]], generated by a tempered hemithird of [[28/25]].


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.2138 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.2138 cents


[[Badness]] (Dirichlet): 0.091
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.091


= Strong extensions =
= Strong extensions =
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! rowspan="2" | Extension !! colspan="2" | 5-limit re-restriction !! rowspan="2" | Mapping of 3 !! rowspan="2" | Tuning range*
! rowspan="2" | Extension !! colspan="2" | 5-limit re-restriction !! rowspan="2" | Mapping of 3 !! rowspan="2" | Tuning range*
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! Temperament !! 5-limit generator location
! Temperament !! 5-limit generator location
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== Hemiwürschmidt ==
== Hemiwürschmidt ==
''[[#Strong extensions|Return to the map]]''
{{See also| Würschmidt family }}
{{See also| Würschmidt family }}


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Mapping generators: ~2, ~25/14
Mapping generators: ~2, ~25/14
{{Multival|legend=1| 16 2 5 -34 -37 6 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~28/25 = 193.898
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~28/25 = 193.898
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{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 31, 68, 99, 229, 328 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 31, 68, 99, 229, 328 }}


{{todo|verify this & get badness|inline=1}}
Badness (Sintel): 0.304


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
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=== Quadrawürschmidt ===
=== Quadrawürschmidt ===
This has been documented in Graham Breed's temperament finder as ''semihemiwürschmidt'', but ''quadrawürschmidt'' arguably makes more sense.  
This has been documented in Graham Breed's temperament finder as ''semihemiwürschmidt'', but ''quadrawürschmidt'' arguably makes more sense.  
The generator of quadrawürschmidt is essentially a [[septimal meantone]] fifth. However, it is not used to represent [[3/2]], as 3/2 is found at the hemiwürschmidt position, 16 wholetones up. The small comma between the generator and 3/2 is taken to represent [[441/440]].


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
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== Hemithirds ==
== Hemithirds ==
''[[#Strong extensions|Return to the map]]''
{{Main| Hemithirds }}
{{Main| Hemithirds }}


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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 4 2 2 | 0 -15 2 5 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 4 2 2 | 0 -15 2 5 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 15 -2 -5 -38 -50 -6 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~28/25 = 193.244
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~28/25 = 193.244
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* [[7-odd-limit]]: ~28/25 = {{monzo| 1/10 -1/20 0 1/20 }}
* [[7-odd-limit]]: ~28/25 = {{monzo| 1/10 -1/20 0 1/20 }}
: {{monzo list| 1 0 0 0 | 5/2 3/4 0 -3/4 | 11/5 -1/10 0 1/10 | 5/2 -1/4 0 1/4 }}
: {{monzo list| 1 0 0 0 | 5/2 3/4 0 -3/4 | 11/5 -1/10 0 1/10 | 5/2 -1/4 0 1/4 }}
: [[Eigenmonzo basis|eigenmonzo (unchanged-interval) basis]]: 2.7/3
: [[Eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.7/3
* [[9-odd-limit]]: ~28/25 = {{monzo| 6/35 -2/35 0 1/35 }}
* [[9-odd-limit]]: ~28/25 = {{monzo| 6/35 -2/35 0 1/35 }}
: {{monzo list| 1 0 0 0 | 10/7 6/7 0 -3/7 | 82/35 -4/35 0 2/35 | 20/7 -2/7 0 1/7 }}
: {{monzo list| 1 0 0 0 | 10/7 6/7 0 -3/7 | 82/35 -4/35 0 2/35 | 20/7 -2/7 0 1/7 }}
: [[Eigenmonzo basis|eigenmonzo (unchanged-interval) basis]]: 2.9/7
: [[Eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.9/7


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 25, 31, 87, 118 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 25, 31, 87, 118 }}
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== Spell ==
== Spell ==
''[[#Strong extensions|Return to the map]]''
{{See also| Magic family }}
{{See also| Magic family }}


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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 2 2 | 0 10 2 5 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 2 2 | 0 10 2 5 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 10 2 5 -20 -20 6 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~28/25 = 189.927
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~28/25 = 189.927
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: mapping generators: ~2, ~75/49
: mapping generators: ~2, ~75/49
{{Multival|legend=1| 17 6 15 -30 -24 18 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~75/49 = 735.155
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~75/49 = 735.155
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: mapping generators: ~2, ~48/35
: mapping generators: ~2, ~48/35
{{Multival|legend=1| 27 8 20 -50 -44 24 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~48/35 = 551.782
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~48/35 = 551.782
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 6 0 -3 | 0 -19 10 25 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 6 0 -3 | 0 -19 10 25 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 19 -10 -25 -60 -93 -30 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~75/64 = 278.800
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~75/64 = 278.800
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 2 2 | 0 29 16 40 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 2 2 | 0 29 16 40 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 29 16 40 -42 -18 48 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~686/675 = 24.217
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~686/675 = 24.217
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 -3 | 0 15 22 55 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 -3 | 0 15 22 55 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 15 22 55 0 45 66 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~27/25 = 126.706
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~27/25 = 126.706
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -4 -2 -8 | 0 31 24 60 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -4 -2 -8 | 0 31 24 60 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 31 24 60 -34 8 72 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~4375/3888 = 216.173
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~4375/3888 = 216.173
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -2 -8 | 0 11 30 75 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -2 -8 | 0 11 30 75 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 11 30 75 22 88 90 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~448/405 = 172.917
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~448/405 = 172.917
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RMS error: 0.5567 cents
RMS error: 0.5567 cents


Badness (Dirichlet): 0.195
Badness (Sintel): 0.195


=== Tridecimal didacus ===
=== Tridecimal didacus ===
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Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 6, 25, 31, 37 }}
Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 6, 25, 31, 37 }}


Badness (Dirichlet): 0.324
Badness (Sintel): 0.324


==== Mediantone ====
==== Mediantone ====
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In the full no-3's [[19-limit]], this temperament is a structure common to quite a few temperaments. It is a rank-2 version of [[orion]] with a mapping for primes 11 and 13. It is a no-3's version of 19-limit [[grosstone]] which can be seen as an extension of [[undecimal meantone]] according to the "mediant-tone" logic of this temperament, and which as aforementioned effectively doubles the complexity of the temperament as a result of finding the generator of [[~]][[19/17]][[~]][[28/25]] as ([[~]][[3/2]])<sup>2</sup>/[[2/1|2]]. It does not work so well as an extension for [[hemiwur]] to the full 19-limit, but if you want to try anyway (at the cost of primes 17 and 19), a notable patent-val tuning is [[37edo]], which finds prime 3 through the [[würschmidt]] mapping so that [[6/1]] is found at 16 generators.
In the full no-3's [[19-limit]], this temperament is a structure common to quite a few temperaments. It is a rank-2 version of [[orion]] with a mapping for primes 11 and 13. It is a no-3's version of 19-limit [[grosstone]] which can be seen as an extension of [[undecimal meantone]] according to the "mediant-tone" logic of this temperament, and which as aforementioned effectively doubles the complexity of the temperament as a result of finding the generator of [[~]][[19/17]][[~]][[28/25]] as ([[~]][[3/2]])<sup>2</sup>/[[2/1|2]]. It does not work so well as an extension for [[hemiwur]] to the full 19-limit, but if you want to try anyway (at the cost of primes 17 and 19), a notable patent-val tuning is [[37edo]], which finds prime 3 through the [[würschmidt]] mapping so that [[6/1]] is found at 16 generators.


Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13.17
Comma list: [[176/175]], [[640/637]], [[221/220]], [[1375/1372]]
Sval mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -3 -7 13 -18 | 0 2 5 9 -8 19 }}
: sval mapping generators: ~2, ~56/25
Optimal tuning (CWE): ~2 = 1\1, ~28/25 = 194.887
Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 6h, 31gh, 37, 80, 117d }}
Badness (Dirichlet): 0.612
===== 2.5.7.11.13.17.19 subgroup =====
Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13.17.19
Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13.17.19


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Optimal tuning (CWE): ~2 = 1\1, ~19/17 = 194.927
Optimal tuning (CWE): ~2 = 1\1, ~19/17 = 194.927


Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 6h, 31gh, 37, 80 }}
Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 6h, 31gh, 37, 80, 117d* }}
 
<nowiki />* 117d only appears without prime 19


Badness (Dirichlet): 0.618
Badness (Sintel): 0.618


==== Roulette ====
==== Roulette ====
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Roulette is an alternative no-threes 19-limit extension of tridecimal didacus to mediantone (the two mappings converging at [[37edo]]), equating (8/7)<sup>2</sup> to [[17/13]] in addition to 13/10, tempering out [[170/169]] and [[833/832]]; in doing so, it also tempers out the micro-comma [[2000033/2000000]] so that ([[50/49]])<sup>3</sup> is equated to [[17/16]]. The generator is then equated to 19/17 in the same way as in mediantone.
Roulette is an alternative no-threes 19-limit extension of tridecimal didacus to mediantone (the two mappings converging at [[37edo]]), equating (8/7)<sup>2</sup> to [[17/13]] in addition to 13/10, tempering out [[170/169]] and [[833/832]]; in doing so, it also tempers out the micro-comma [[2000033/2000000]] so that ([[50/49]])<sup>3</sup> is equated to [[17/16]]. The generator is then equated to 19/17 in the same way as in mediantone.


Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13.17
Comma list: [[170/169]], [[176/175]], [[640/637]], [[1375/1372]]
Sval mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 2 2 5 7 | 0 2 5 9 -8 -18 }}
: sval mapping generators: ~2, ~28/25
Optimal tuning (CWE): ~2 = 1\1, ~28/25 = 194.285
Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 6g, ... 31, 37, 68, 105 }}
Badness (Dirichlet): 0.685
===== 2.5.7.11.13.17.19 subgroup =====
Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13.17.19
Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13.17.19


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Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 6g, ... 31, 37, 68, 105 }}
Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 6g, ... 31, 37, 68, 105 }}


Badness (Dirichlet): 0.676
Badness (Sintel): 0.676


== Rectified hebrew ==
== Rectified hebrew ==
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