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[[29edo]] is notable for being the first equal division to have a more precise [[3/2]] than [[12edo]], and the first tuning to be consistent in the [[15-odd-limit]]. 29th-octave temperaments occur naturally when temperament-merging edos whose greatest common divisor is 29.
[[29edo]] is notable for being the first equal division to have a more precise [[3/2]] than [[12edo]], and the first tuning to be consistent in the [[15-odd-limit]]. 29th-octave temperaments occur naturally when temperament-merging edos whose greatest common divisor is 29.


Temperaments discussed elsewhere include:
== Mystery (5-limit) ==
* ''[[Mystery]]'', → [[Hemifamity temperaments#Mystery|Hemifamity temperaments]]
: ''Main article: [[Mystery]] and for higher-limit versions see [[Hemifamity temperaments #Mystery]]''


Mystery is notable for having a separate page.
The mystery temperament in the 5-limit is described by tempering out the comma {{monzo| 46 -29 }}, where a circle of 29 fifths closes on 17 octaves, and it is supported by small multiples of 29edo.
 
Subgroup: 2.3.5
 
[[Comma]]: {{monzo| 46 -29 }}
 
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 29 46 0 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 }}]
 
Mapping generators: ~531441/524288, ~5
 
[[POTE generator]]: ~5/4 = 387.408
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 29, 58, 87, 232, 319 }}
 
[[Badness]]: 1.020556


== Copper ==
== Copper ==
Copper temperament is derived from a 5-limit comma called [[copper comma]], because it is constructed the same way towards 29edo as [[Kirnberger's atom]] is towards 12edo. A fifth of each of these tunings is modified by a tiny amount, then a circle of these fifths is set to close eventually at the octave.
Copper temperament is derived from a 5-limit comma called [[copper comma]], because it is constructed the same way towards 29edo as [[Kirnberger's atom]] is towards 12edo. A fifth of each of these tunings is modified by a tiny amount, then a circle of these fifths is set to close eventually at the octave.


Surprisingly, despite 29edo's fifth being closer to 3/2 than 12edo's, copper has a higher TE error than [[atomic]] and is not a [[very high accuracy temperaments|very high accuracy temperament]].
It is worth noting that despite 29edo's fifth being closer to 3/2 than 12edo's, copper has a higher TE error than [[atomic]] and hence is not a [[very high accuracy temperaments|very high accuracy temperament]].


Subgroup: 2.3.5
Subgroup: 2.3.5
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Optimal tuning (CTE): ~3/2 = 701.905
Optimal tuning (CTE): ~3/2 = 701.905


[[Support]]ing [[ET]]s: {{EDOs|23, 754, 783, 812, 1566, 1537, 2320, 3103, 3132}}, ...
[[Support]]ing [[ET]]s: {{EDOs|29, 754, 783, 812, 1566, 1537, 2320, 3103, 3132}}, ...
 
{{Navbox fractional-octave}}


[[Category:29edo]]
[[Category:29edo]]
[[Category:Temperament collections]]
{{Todo| review }}

Latest revision as of 16:55, 22 March 2026

29edo is notable for being the first equal division to have a more precise 3/2 than 12edo, and the first tuning to be consistent in the 15-odd-limit. 29th-octave temperaments occur naturally when temperament-merging edos whose greatest common divisor is 29.

Mystery (5-limit)

Main article: Mystery and for higher-limit versions see Hemifamity temperaments #Mystery

The mystery temperament in the 5-limit is described by tempering out the comma [46 -29, where a circle of 29 fifths closes on 17 octaves, and it is supported by small multiples of 29edo.

Subgroup: 2.3.5

Comma: [46 -29

Mapping: [29 46 0], 0 0 1]]

Mapping generators: ~531441/524288, ~5

POTE generator: ~5/4 = 387.408

Optimal ET sequence29, 58, 87, 232, 319

Badness: 1.020556

Copper

Copper temperament is derived from a 5-limit comma called copper comma, because it is constructed the same way towards 29edo as Kirnberger's atom is towards 12edo. A fifth of each of these tunings is modified by a tiny amount, then a circle of these fifths is set to close eventually at the octave.

It is worth noting that despite 29edo's fifth being closer to 3/2 than 12edo's, copper has a higher TE error than atomic and hence is not a very high accuracy temperament.

Subgroup: 2.3.5

Comma list: [-481 261 29

Mapping: [29 0 481], 0 1 -9]]

Mapping generators: ~[-199 12 108 = 1\29, ~3/2 = 701.905

Optimal tuning (CTE): ~3/2 = 701.905

Supporting ETs: 29, 754, 783, 812, 1566, 1537, 2320, 3103, 3132, ...

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