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{{Infobox fractional-octave|35}}
[[35edo]] is a tuning system that's not remarkable in its own right from a regular temperament theory perspective, but some of its multiples are either [[zeta]] edos like [[3395edo]], have an exceptionally precise perfect fifth like [[665edo]], or have high consistency limits like [[525edo]]. In addition, one step of 35edo is close to [[50/49]] in low limits and [[51/50]] in the higher limits.
[[35edo]] is a tuning system that's not remarkable in its own right from a regular temperament theory perspective, but some of its multiples are either [[zeta]] edos like [[3395edo]], have an exceptionally precise perfect fifth like [[665edo]], or have high consistency limits like [[525edo]]. In addition, one step of 35edo is close to [[50/49]] in low limits and [[51/50]] in the higher limits.
== Insanobromismic ==
{{Main|Insanobromisma}}
This is the comma that identifies [[51/50]] with 1 step of 35edo.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
Comma list: {{monzo|36 -35 70 0 0 0 -35}}
Mapping: [{{val|35 0 0 0 0 0 36}}, {{val|0 1 0 0 0 0 -1}}, {{val|0 0 1 0 0 0 2}}, {{val|0 0 0 1 0 0 0}}, {{val|0 0 0 0 1 0 0}}, {{val|0 0 0 0 0 1 0}}]
: mapping generators: ~51/50 = 1\35, ~3, ~5, ~7, ~11, ~13
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1|35f, 140, 280, 385, 525, 665, 805, 1190, 1330, 2205, 2590, 2730, 3395, 7315, 10045, 10710, 10850, 14420, 16625, 17955, 18480, 20020, 20895, 21875, 24605, 25270, 28000, 31920, ...}}
\* optimal patent val: [[589400edo|589400]]
=== Insanobromic ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.17
Comma list: {{monzo|36 -35 70 -35}}
{{Mapping|legend=2|35 0 0 36|0 1 0 -1|0 0 1 2}}
: mapping generators: ~51/50 = 1\35, ~3, ~5,
[[Support]]ing [[ET]]s: {{EDOs|140, 525, 665, 2730, 3395, 3920, 7980, 16625, 28000}}, ...


== Bromine ==
== Bromine ==
Bromine is named after the 35th chemical element.
Bromine is named after the 35th chemical element, and is made by combining two notable high-accuracy edos divisible by 35, [[665edo]] and [[3395edo]] - described as the 665 & 3395 temperament.  
 
In the 7-limit, [[1400edo]] is also a tuning.
 
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
 
[[Comma list]]: {{monzo|47 -7 -7 -7}}, {{monzo|6 -37 13 8}}
 
[[Mapping]]: [{{val|35 0 -418 653}}, {{val|0 1 9 -10}}]
 
: mapping generators: ~38263752/37515625 = 1\35, ~3
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~38263752/37515625 = 34.286{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.969{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.006, 0.009, -0.001, 0.002 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~38263752/37515625 = 34.286{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.973{{c}}
: error map: {{val| -0.000, 0.018, 0.012, 0.018 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1|70d, 665, 2065, 2730, 3395, 10850, 14245, 17640}}
 
Badness: 4.681
 
=== 11-limit ===
 
While 665edo still tunes bromine in the 11-limit, it is not recommended due to error on the 11th harmonic. [[2730edo]] or [[3395edo]] are better tunings. Alternately, considering bromine as a no-11s temperament keeps it within the realm of [[very high accuracy temperaments]], having [[TE error]] of less than 0.005 cents per octave.
 
If a strong 11th harmonic is needed, [[6125edo]] is the tuning for that.
 
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
Comma list: 151263/151250, 115091701760/115063885233, 45137758519296/45135986328125


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Mapping: [{{val|35 0 -418 653 2451}}, {{val|0 1 9 -10 -42}}]


Comma list: {{monzo|47 -7 -7 -7}}, {{monzo|6 -37 13 8}}
: mapping generators: ~1203125/1179648 = 1\35, ~3


Mapping: [{{val|35 0 -418 653}}, {{val|0 1 9 -10}}]
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~1203125/1179648 = 34.286{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.970{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.007, 0.008, 0.012, -0.020, 0.014 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~1203125/1179648 = 34.286{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.975{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000, 0.020, 0.029, -0.000, 0.035 }}


Mapping generators: ~38263752/37515625 = 1\35, ~3
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1|665, 2065e, 2730, 3395, 6125, 9520, 12915}}


Optimal tuning (CTE): ~3/2 = 701.973
[[Badness]]: 4.891


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1|665, 2065, 2730, 3395, 4060, 7455}}
=== 13-limit ===


=== 2.3.5.7.13 subgroup ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.13
Comma list: 123201/123200, 151263/151250, 1990656/1990625, 8683257856/8681088735


Comma list: 1990656/1990625, 1686616064/1686498489, 44302336000/44295075909
Mapping: [{{val|35 0 -418 653 2451 1239}}, {{val|0 1 9 -10 -42 -20}}]


Sval mapping: [{{val|35 0 -418 653 1239}}, {{val|0 1 9 -10 -20}}]
Mapping generators: ~1485/1456 = 1\35, ~3


Sval mapping generators: ~38263752/37515625 = 1\35, ~3
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~1485/1456 = 34.286{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.970{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.006, 0.010, 0.013, -0.014, 0.027, -0.035 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~1485/1456 = 34.286{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.975{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000, 0.019, 0.027, 0.002, 0.043, -0.016 }}


Optimal tuning (CTE): ~3/2 = 701.973
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1|665, 2065e, 2730, 3395, 9520, 12915}}


Supporting ETs: 665, 3395, ...
[[Badness]]: 2.328


=== 2.3.5.7.13.17 subgroup ===
=== 17-limit ===


The period is mapped to ~51/50.
The period is finally mapped to true ~51/50.


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.13.17
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17


Comma list: 426496/426465, 1990656/1990625, 6251648/6251175, 51200000/51195483
Comma list: 12376/12375, 123201/123200, 194481/194480, 1713660/1713481, 24635975/24634368


Mapping: [{{val|35 0 -418 653 1239}}, {{val|0 1 9 -10 -20}}]
Mapping: [{{val|35 0 -418 653 2451 1239 -800}}, {{val|0 1 9 -10 -42 -20 17}}]


Mapping generators: ~51/50 = 1\35, ~3
Mapping generators: ~51/50 = 1\35, ~3


Optimal tuning (CTE): ~3/2 = 701.973
Optimal tuning (CTE): ~3/2 = 701.97...
 
Supporting ETs: {{EDOs|665, 2730, 3395, 6125, 7455, 10185}}...


Supporting ETs: 665, 3395, ...
=== 19-limit ===
 
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
 
[[Comma list]]: 12376/12375, 12636/12635, 13377/13376, 14080/14079, 14365/14364, 486400/486387
 
[[Mapping]]: [{{val|35 0 -418 653 2451 1239 -800 152}}, {{val|0 1 9 -10 -42 -20 17 -7}}]
 
[[Mapping]] [[generator]]s: ~51/50 = 1\35, ~3
 
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~3/2 = 701.97...
 
[[Support]]ing [[ET]]s: {{EDOs|665, 2730, 3395, 6125, 6790h, 7455eh}}...


== Tritonopodismic (rank-3) ==
== Tritonopodismic (rank-3) ==
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Optimal tuning (CTE): ~5/4 = 386.174
Optimal tuning (CTE): ~5/4 = 386.174
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