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::I really think it may be best to simply notate the diesis as C-Dbb, rather than C-C^ or anything else. For two reasons: first, from a "tonal" standpoint, that that's what this interval really is: a double diminished second. Consider the chord progression Cmaj -> Am -> Emaj -> C#m -> G#maj -> E#m -> B#maj -- you have now modulated and are a diesis lower than you started. But this interval may be different sizes in different tunings, and flatter than 19-EDO, the diesis is larger than the chromatic semitone! But even though it is larger, you can still "feel" that you have modulated to the "same place" on the chain of fifths, so there is an interesting perceptual effect there. This is true even if you do the above chord progression in a flattone tuning like 26-EDO for instance, where it's 92 cents, or in a superpyth tuning like 17-EDO, where it's -70 cents! So while the diesis may change in size - it always "feels" like a diesis - much like a chromatic semitone always "feels" like a chromatic semitone whether it's 19-EDO or 17-EDO. But, just my thought... [[User:Battaglia01|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01|talk]]) 07:26, 24 September 2018 (UTC) | ::I really think it may be best to simply notate the diesis as C-Dbb, rather than C-C^ or anything else. For two reasons: first, from a "tonal" standpoint, that that's what this interval really is: a double diminished second. Consider the chord progression Cmaj -> Am -> Emaj -> C#m -> G#maj -> E#m -> B#maj -- you have now modulated and are a diesis lower than you started. But this interval may be different sizes in different tunings, and flatter than 19-EDO, the diesis is larger than the chromatic semitone! But even though it is larger, you can still "feel" that you have modulated to the "same place" on the chain of fifths, so there is an interesting perceptual effect there. This is true even if you do the above chord progression in a flattone tuning like 26-EDO for instance, where it's 92 cents, or in a superpyth tuning like 17-EDO, where it's -70 cents! So while the diesis may change in size - it always "feels" like a diesis - much like a chromatic semitone always "feels" like a chromatic semitone whether it's 19-EDO or 17-EDO. But, just my thought... [[User:Battaglia01|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01|talk]]) 07:26, 24 September 2018 (UTC) | ||
:::Removing the diesis from the notation is a modification and the resulting notation is no longer [[Extended meantone notation]]. So you just proposed not to use [[Extended meantone notation]], which is off-topic. [[User:PiotrGrochowski|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski|talk]]) 15:59, 24 September 2018 (UTC) | :::Removing the diesis from the notation is a modification and the resulting notation is no longer [[Extended meantone notation]]. So you just proposed not to use [[Extended meantone notation]], which is off-topic. [[User:PiotrGrochowski|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski|talk]]) 15:59, 24 September 2018 (UTC) | ||
* ok, i changed Y/Z (diesis) to ^/v, and y/z (kleisma) to +/-, just to make the page less 'under construction'. i'm not attached to these, so change them if you want... [[User:Spt3125|Spt3125]] ([[User talk:Spt3125|talk]]) 00:14, 2 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
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