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87edo contains [[3edo]] and [[29edo]] as subset edos.
87edo contains [[3edo]] and [[29edo]] as subset edos.


[[348edo]], which slices the edostep in four, provides a good correction of the 7th harmonic.
[[348edo]], which slices the edostep in four, provides a good correction of the 7th harmonic. Multiples like [[696edo]] and [[783edo]] are also of theoretical interest.
 
One step of 87edo is ''extremely'' close to [[126/125]], with the associated comma, 87-126/125-comma ({{monzo|86 174 -261 87}}) being tempered in equal temperaments well over 100,000 and with less than 0.001{{c}} error, with the [[optimal patent val]] for the 7-limit temperament being an enormous [[425082edo]]. But more notably, 87edo itself does the mapping consistently, making it a true circle of 126/125's.
 
See also [[87th-octave temperaments]].


== Intervals ==
== Intervals ==
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87edo can be written using [[Kite's ups and downs notation]]. Note that quudsharp (quadruple-down sharp) is equivalent to quip (quintuple-up) and that quupflat (quadruple-up flat) is equivalent to quid (quintuple-down):
87edo can be written using [[Kite's ups and downs notation]]. Note that quudsharp (quadruple-down sharp) is equivalent to quip (quintuple-up) and that quupflat (quadruple-up flat) is equivalent to quid (quintuple-down):
{{Ups and downs sharpness}}
{{Ups and downs sharpness}}
Mapping an arrow to 2\87 rather than 1\87 is an alternative approach which takes advantage of 87edo being a tuning of akea temperament. This way, one arrow is equivalent to 81/80~64/63, and two arrows are eqivalent to 33/32~1053/1024.
Mapping an arrow to 2\87 rather than 1\87 is an alternative approach which takes advantage of 87edo being a tuning of akea temperament. This way, one arrow is equivalent to 81/80~64/63, and two arrows are equivalent to 33/32~1053/1024.


== Approximation to JI ==
== Approximation to JI ==
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== Scales ==
== Scales ==
=== Mos scales ===
=== Harmonic scales ===
{{main|List of MOS scales in 87edo}}
87edo very accurately approximates [[Overtone scale|modes]] up to 8 of the [[harmonic series]], and the only interval pair not distinct is 14/13 and 15/14. It can also do mode 12 decently.
 
==== (Mode 6) ====
{| class="wikitable center-all"
|-
! Overtones
| 12
| 14
| 16
| 18
| 20
| 22
| 24
|-
! JI Ratios
| 1/1
| 7/6
| 4/3
| 3/2
| 5/3
| 11/6
| 2/1
|-
! … in cents
| 0.0
| 266.9
| 498.0
| 702.0
| 884.4
| 1049.4
| 1200.0
|-
! Degrees in 87edo
| 0
| 19
| 36
| 51
| 64
| 76
| 87
|-
! … in cents
| 0.0
| 262.1
| 496.6
| 703.4
| 882.8
| 1048.3
| 1200.0
|}


=== Harmonic scales ===
The scale in adjacent steps is '''19 17 15 13 12 11'''.  
87edo accurately approximates the mode 8 of [[harmonic series]], and the only interval pair not distinct is 14/13 and 15/14. It can also do mode 12 decently.  


==== (Mode 8) ====
==== (Mode 8) ====
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|}
|}


The scale in adjacent steps is 15, 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 9, 8.  
The scale in adjacent steps is '''15 13 12 11 10 9 9 8'''.  


==== (Mode 12) ====
==== (Mode 12) ====
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|}


The scale in adjacent steps is 10, 9, 9, 8, 7, 7, 6, 6, 6, 6, 5.  
The scale in adjacent steps is '''10 9 9 8 7 7 6 6 6 6 5'''.  


13, 15, 16, 18, 20, and 22 are close matches.  
13, 15, 16, 18, 20, and 22 are close matches.  


14 and 21 are flat; 17, 19, and 23 are sharp. Still decent all things considered.
14 and 21 are flat; 17, 19, and 23 are sharp. Still decent all things considered.
=== Mos scales ===
{{main|List of MOS scales in 87edo}}
* [[Kleismic]][7]: 5 18 5 18 5 18 18
* Kleismic[15]: 5 8 5 5 5 8 5 5 5 8 5 5 5 8 5
* Kleismic[19]: 5 5 3 5 5 5 5 3 5 5 5 3 5 5 5 5 3 5 5
* Kleismic[34]: 3 2 3 2 3 2 3 2 3 3 2 3 2 3 2 3 2 3 3 2 3 2 3 2 3 3 2 3 2 3 2 3 2 3
* [[Misty]][6]: 22 7 22 7 22 7
* Misty[12]: 7 8 7 7 7 8 7 7 7 8 7 7
* Misty[15]: 7 7 1 7 7 7 7 1 7 7 7 7 1 7 7
* Misty[27]: 1 6 1 6 1 6 1 6 1 1 6 1 6 1 6 1 6 1 1 6 1 6 1 6 1 6 1
* Misty[39]: 1 5 1 1 5 1 1 1 5 1 1 5 1 1 5 1 1 5 1 1 1 5 1 1 5 1 1 5 1 1 5 1 1 1 5 1 1 5 1
* [[Luna]][6]: 17 14 14 14 14 14
* Luna[13]: 3 11 3 11 3 11 3 11 3 11 3 11 3
* Luna[19]: 3 8 3 3 8 3 3 8 3 3 3 8 3 3 8 3 3 8 3
* Luna[25]: 3 3 5 3 3 3 5 3 3 3 5 3 3 3 5 3 3 3 5 3 3 3 5 3 3
* Luna[31]: 3 3 2 3 3 3 3 2 3 3 3 3 2 3 3 3 3 3 2 3 3 3 3 2 3 3 3 3 2 3 3
* Luna[56]: 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2
* [[Rodan]][5]: 17 17 17 17 19
* Rodan[11]: 2 15 2 15 2 15 2 15 2 15 2
* Rodan[16]: 2 13 2 2 13 2 2 2 13 2 2 13 2 2 13 2
* Rodan[21]: 2 2 11 2 2 2 11 2 2 2 11 2 2 2 11 2 2 2 11 2 2
* Rodan[36]: 2 2 2 5 2 2 2 2 2 2 5 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 5 2 2 2 2 2 2 5 2 2 2 2 2 2 5 2 2 2
* Rodan[41]: 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 2


=== Other scales ===
=== Other scales ===
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== Music ==
== Music ==
=== Modern renderings ===
; {{W|Stomach Book}}
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rINJKiMQE78 ''Circuit Bent''] (2024) – microtonal cover in 87edo by [[Bryan Deister]] (2025)
=== 21st century ===
; [[ALLY195]]
; [[ALLY195]]
* [https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV16h411g7QM/ ''Root note and subharmonic series cadence - 103EDO, 87EDO, 94EDO''] (2023)
* [https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV16h411g7QM/ ''Root note and subharmonic series cadence – 103EDO, 87EDO, 94EDO''] (2023)
* [https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1N84y1T792/ ''A comparison between 87edo and 12edo''] (2023)
* [https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1N84y1T792/ ''A comparison between 87edo and 12edo''] (2023)


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* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ecxELXmkYAs ''microtonal improvisation in 87edo''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ecxELXmkYAs ''microtonal improvisation in 87edo''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5OH9OOGeuX4 ''87edo waltz''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5OH9OOGeuX4 ''87edo waltz''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rINJKiMQE78 ''Circuit Bent - Stomach Book (microtonal cover in 87edo)''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8mHBYBfRjy4 ''87edo improv''] (2026-07-11)
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wHPyCHQn55A ''87edo improv''] (2026-09-28)


; [[Gene Ward Smith]]
; [[Gene Ward Smith]]
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