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'''The Jacobins''' is a collection of microtemperaments of different ranks which all temper out the jacobin comma, [[6656/6655]]. | '''The Jacobins''' is a collection of microtemperaments of different ranks which all temper out the jacobin comma, [[6656/6655]]. | ||
The main focus here will be on the 2.5.11.13 [[subgroup]], the subgroup of the comma. Besides, in the full 13-limit the jacobin comma often functions as a part of a basis of other temperaments of other families and groups, like [[vidar]]. | The main focus here will be on the 2.5.11.13 [[subgroup]], the subgroup of the comma. Besides, in the full 13-limit the jacobin comma often functions as a part of a basis of other temperaments of other families and groups, like [[vidar]]. | ||
Quite coincidentally, [[1789edo]] supports an enormous amount of these temperaments. Since 1789edo has a bad approximation to the 3rd harmonic, 2.5.7.11.13 is also the main subgroup for many temperaments, and 7-limit extensions to 2.5.11.13 temperaments are named "septimal …" after the original temperament. | Quite coincidentally, [[1789edo]] supports an enormous amount of these temperaments ― and it is consistent to distance 2 in the 2.5.11.13 subgroup, subgroup of the comma. Since 1789edo has a bad approximation to the 3rd harmonic, 2.5.7.11.13 is also the main subgroup for many temperaments, and 7-limit extensions to 2.5.11.13 temperaments are named "septimal …" after the original temperament. | ||
== Jacobin == | == Jacobin == | ||
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Optimal tuning (CTE): ~16/11 = 648.608 | Optimal tuning (CTE): ~16/11 = 648.608 | ||
== Barton == | |||
{{See also| Chromatic pairs #Barton }} | |||
Barton may be described as the 11 & 13 temperament in the 2.5.11.13 subgroup. It was named after [[Jacob Barton]] by [[Gene Ward Smith]] and [[Carl Lumma]] in 2006<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_14632.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | "father" variant?]</ref>. [[Scott Dakota]] rediscovered this same temperament in 2025 and named it "hem"{{idio}}. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.11.13 | |||
[[Comma list]]: [[2200/2197]], [[6656/6655]] | |||
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 6 3 6 | 0 -8 1 -5 }} | |||
{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 0 6 0 3 6 | 0 0 -8 0 1 -5 }} | |||
: gencom: [2 11/8; 2200/2197 6656/6655] | |||
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~11/8 = 551.699 | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 11, 13, 24, 37, 50, 87, 298, 385, 472, 559, 1590cd }} | |||
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.0822 cents | |||
== Huguenot == | |||
Huguenot, named after French calvinists who fled to Ireland, tempers out the [[4225/4224|leprechaun comma]] together with the jacobin comma. | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 4225/4224, 6656/6655 | |||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 4 2 2 1 | 0 1 4 0 -3 -5 | 0 0 -5 0 4 7 | 0 0 0 1 0 0 }} | |||
[[Optimal tuning]]s: | |||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.009{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.954{{c}}, ~96/55 = 964.312{{c}}, 7/4 = 968.809{{c}} | |||
: [[error map]]: {{val| 0.009, 0.008, -0.025, -0.000, 0.087, -0.102 }} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.953{{c}}, ~96/55 = 964.309{{c}}, 7/4 = 968.807{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000, -0.002, -0.045, -0.019, 0.058, -0.132 }} | |||
[[Support]]ing [[ET]]s: {{EDOs|87, 224, 270, 311, 494, 581, 764, 814, 1084, 1308}} | |||
[[Badness]]: 0.508 | |||
== Genojacobin == | == Genojacobin == | ||
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Subgroup: 2.5.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.5.11.13 | ||
Comma list: 6656/6655, {{monzo| | Comma list: 6656/6655, {{monzo|-177 76 -79 74}} | ||
Sval mapping: {{Val|1 100 -99 -206}}, {{Val|0 -143 150 307}} | Sval mapping: {{Val|1 100 -99 -206}}, {{Val|0 -143 150 307}} | ||
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{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1|183, 1057f, 1240, 1423, 1606, 1789, 3395 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1|183, 1057f, 1240, 1423, 1606, 1789, 3395 }} | ||
=== Acroquanharuk === | |||
Described as 183 & 1240 temperament in the full 13-limit, and named by analogy with acrosextilifourths (see below) as a more large-edo expansion upon quanharuk. 1789d val is chosen as it is simpler. | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 729/728, 6656/6655, 1016064/1015625, 14085981/14080000 | |||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -43 -104 51 101 | 0 5 143 337 -150 -307 }} | |||
Optimal tuning (CWE): ~1755/1408 = 380.323 | |||
[[Support]]ing [[ET]]s: {{EDOs|183, 1057f, 1240, 1403, 1789d}} | |||
== Onzonic == | == Onzonic == | ||
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== Sextilimeans == | == Sextilimeans == | ||
Sextilimeans is like | Sextilimeans is like [[sextilifourths]], but the fourth that is divided into 6 in sextilifourths is tuned to a meantone fourth in the optimal tuning, or about 1/4.26-commma meantone. It should be noted, however, that this meantone fourth is not ~4/3 despite that the name may suggest so. In fact, the 3rd harmonic is not mapped in this temperament at all. It is described as the 229 & 1789 temperament. | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.7.11.13 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.5.7.11.13 | ||
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== Pure bastille == | == Pure bastille == | ||
{{Main| Bastille }} | |||
Subgroup: 2.5.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.5.11.13 | ||
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{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1|1407eff, 1789, 4985eff}} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1|1407eff, 1789, 4985eff}} | ||
== Double bastille == | |||
{{See also| No-threes subgroup temperaments #Bastille }} | |||
Described as the 1789 & 2814 temperament, and named because 2814 divided in two is 1407. | Described as the 1789 & 2814 temperament, and named because 2814 divided in two is 1407. | ||
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{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1|1789, 2814, }} ... | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1|1789, 2814, }} ... | ||
== | == Acrosextilifourths == | ||
Discovered by [[Aura]] and defined as the 159 & 1619 temperament, with prefix acro- denoting the fact that it's a more precise version of | Discovered by [[Aura]] and defined as the 159 & 1619 temperament, with prefix acro- denoting the fact that it's a more precise version of sextilifourths, with fourth divided into 6 parts in 1619edo just as it is in 159edo. | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
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== Eternal revolutionary == | == Eternal revolutionary == | ||
Described as the 91 & 1880 temperament, or 1789bd & 1880 temperament, and is named after a [[Wikipedia: | Described as the 91 & 1880 temperament, or 1789bd & 1880 temperament, and is named after a [[Wikipedia:uk:Вічний революціонер|poem by Ivan Franko]] <sup>[UA, no EN]</sup> which was written in the year 1880, hence the name. | ||
Subgroup: 2.5.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.5.11.13 | ||
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Sval mapping: [{{Val|1 261 -159 -225}}, {{Val|0 -535 336 473}}] | Sval mapping: [{{Val|1 261 -159 -225}}, {{Val|0 -535 336 473}}] | ||
Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2.5.11.13 {{monzo| | Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2.5.11.13 {{monzo|294 -46 7 -57}} = 580.212 | ||
[[Support]]ing [[ET]]s: {{EDOs|91, 1698, 1789, 1880, 3487, 3669, 5458, 7247}}, ... | [[Support]]ing [[ET]]s: {{EDOs|91, 1698, 1789, 1880, 3487, 3669, 5458, 7247}}, ... | ||