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== Theory ==
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59edo's best [[3/2|fifth]] is stretched about 9.91 cents from the just interval, and yet its [[5/4]] is nearly pure (stretched only 0.127{{c}}), as the denominator of a convergent to log<sub>2</sub>5. It is a good [[porcupine]] tuning, giving in fact the [[optimal patent val]] for [[11-limit]] porcupine. This patent val tempers out [[250/243]] in the [[5-limit]], [[64/63]] and [[16875/16807]] in the [[7-limit]], and [[55/54]], [[100/99]] and [[176/175]] in the [[11-limit]].
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<h4>Original Wikitext content:</h4>
Using the flat fifth instead of the sharp one allows for the {{nowrap|12 &amp; 35}} temperament, which is a kind of bizarre cousin to [[garibaldi]] with a generator of an approximate 15/14, tuned to the size of a whole tone, rather than a fifth. The flat fifth also acts as a generator for [[flattertone]] temperament in the 59bcd val, a variant of meantone with very flat fifths.
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">The //59 equal division// divides the octave into 59 equal steps of 20.339 cents each. Its best fifth is very (9.9 cents) sharp, and yet its major third is nearly pure. It is a good [[Porcupine family]] porcupine tuning, giving in fact the [[optimal patent val]] for 11-limit porcupine. This patent val tempers out 250/243 in the 5-limit, 64/63 and 16875/16807 in the 7-limit, and 55/54, 100/99 and 176/175 in the 11-limit. Using the flat fifth instead of the sharp one gives the apparently rather uninteresting 12&amp;35 temperament.</pre></div>
 
<h4>Original HTML content:</h4>
As every other step of [[118edo]], 59edo is an excellent tuning for the 2.9.5.21.11 11-limit [[k*N subgroups|2*59 subgroup]], on which it takes the same tuning and tempers out the same commas. This can be extended to the 19-limit 2*59 subgroup 2.9.5.21.11.39.17.57, for which the [[50edo|50]] &amp; 59 temperament with a subminor third generator provides an interesting temperament.
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;59edo&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;The &lt;em&gt;59 equal division&lt;/em&gt; divides the octave into 59 equal steps of 20.339 cents each. Its best fifth is very (9.9 cents) sharp, and yet its major third is nearly pure. It is a good &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Porcupine%20family"&gt;Porcupine family&lt;/a&gt; porcupine tuning, giving in fact the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/optimal%20patent%20val"&gt;optimal patent val&lt;/a&gt; for 11-limit porcupine. This patent val tempers out 250/243 in the 5-limit, 64/63 and 16875/16807 in the 7-limit, and 55/54, 100/99 and 176/175 in the 11-limit. Using the flat fifth instead of the sharp one gives the apparently rather uninteresting 12&amp;amp;35 temperament.&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
 
=== Odd harmonics ===
{{Harmonics in equal|59|columns=13}}
 
=== Subsets and supersets ===
59edo is the 17th [[prime edo]], following [[53edo]] and before [[61edo]]. As noted above, 118edo is a superset that yields most of the same tuning properties, but it also adds a near-just third harmonic to enable strong full 11-limit tuning.
 
== Intervals ==
{{Interval table}}{{Todo|text=ADD 3|inline=1}}
 
== Notation ==
 
=== Sagittal notation ===
==== Best fifth notation ====
This notation uses the same sagittal sequence as [[66edo#Sagittal notation|66-EDO]].
 
===== Evo flavor =====
<imagemap>
File:59-EDO_Evo_Sagittal.svg
desc none
rect 80 0 300 50 [[Sagittal_notation]]
rect 300 0 743 80 [https://sagittal.org#periodic-table Periodic table of EDOs with sagittal notation]
rect 20 80 190 106 [[Fractional_3-limit_notation#Bad-fifths_apotome-fraction_notation | apotome-fraction notation]]
rect 190 80 320 106 [[144/143]]
rect 320 80 430 106 [[81/80]]
rect 430 80 570 106 [[1053/1024]]
default [[File:59-EDO_Evo_Sagittal.svg]]
</imagemap>
 
===== Revo flavor =====
<imagemap>
File:59-EDO_Revo_Sagittal.svg
desc none
rect 80 0 300 50 [[Sagittal_notation]]
rect 300 0 743 80 [https://sagittal.org#periodic-table Periodic table of EDOs with sagittal notation]
rect 20 80 190 106 [[Fractional_3-limit_notation#Bad-fifths_apotome-fraction_notation | apotome-fraction notation]]
rect 190 80 320 106 [[144/143]]
rect 320 80 430 106 [[81/80]]
rect 430 80 570 106 [[1053/1024]]
default [[File:59-EDO_Revo_Sagittal.svg]]
</imagemap>
 
In the diagrams above, a sagittal symbol followed by an equals sign (=) means that the following comma is the symbol's [[Sagittal notation#Primary comma|primary comma]] (the comma it ''exactly'' represents in JI), while an approximately equals sign (≈) means it is a secondary comma (a comma it ''approximately'' represents in JI). In both cases the symbol exactly represents the tempered version of the comma in this EDO.
 
==== Second-best fifth notation ====
This notation uses the same sagittal sequence as EDOs [[45edo#Sagittal notation|45]] and [[52edo#Sagittal notation|52]].
 
===== Evo flavor =====
<imagemap>
File:59b_Evo_Sagittal.svg
desc none
rect 80 0 300 50 [[Sagittal_notation]]
rect 300 0 687 80 [https://sagittal.org#periodic-table Periodic table of EDOs with sagittal notation]
rect 20 80 130 106 [[36/35]]
default [[File:59b_Evo_Sagittal.svg]]
</imagemap>
 
===== Revo flavor =====
<imagemap>
File:59b_Revo_Sagittal.svg
desc none
rect 80 0 300 50 [[Sagittal_notation]]
rect 300 0 695 80 [https://sagittal.org#periodic-table Periodic table of EDOs with sagittal notation]
rect 20 80 130 106 [[36/35]]
default [[File:59b_Revo_Sagittal.svg]]
</imagemap>
 
===== Evo-SZ flavor =====
<imagemap>
File:59b_Evo-SZ_Sagittal.svg
desc none
rect 80 0 300 50 [[Sagittal_notation]]
rect 300 0 655 80 [https://sagittal.org#periodic-table Periodic table of EDOs with sagittal notation]
rect 20 80 130 106 [[36/35]]
default [[File:59b_Evo-SZ_Sagittal.svg]]
</imagemap>
 
Because it contains no Sagittal symbols, this Evo-SZ Sagittal notation is also a Stein–Zimmerman notation.
 
== Octave stretch or compression ==
59edo’s approximations of 3/1, 7/1 and 11/1 are improved by [[93edt]], a [[Octave stretch|stretched-octave]] version of 59edo. The trade-off is a slightly worse 2/1 and 5/1.
 
[[ed12|211ed12]] is also a solid stretched-octave option, which improves 59edo's 3/1, doing a little, but not much, damage to most other primes.
 
If one prefers ''[[Octave shrinking|compressed octaves]]'', then [[ed6|153ed6]] is a viable option. It improves upon 59edo’s 3/1, 7/1 and 13/1 at the cost of a slightly worse 2/1 and 5/1, but substantially worse 11/1.
 
== Scales ==
; [[Porcupine]] scales
* Porcupine[7]: 8 8 8 11 8 8 8
* Porcupine[15]: 3 5 3 5 3 5 3 5 3 5 3 5 3 5 3
* Porcupine[22]: 3 2 3 3 2 3 3 2 3 3 3 2 3 3 2 3 3 2 3 3 2 3
* [[User:BudjarnLambeth/Antechinus|Antechinus]] (''nonoctave period'')
 
== Instruments ==
; Lumatone
 
See [[Lumatone mapping for 59edo]].
 
== Music ==
; [[Bryan Deister]]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UsnINWSvzo ''Microtonal improvisation in 59edo''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/unVwXrAWnzI ''icosa - Oliver Buckland (microtonal cover in 59edo)''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XYr4j6Abwlw ''Le Ciel - Malice Mizer (microtonal cover in 59edo)''] (2026)
 
; [[Francium]]
* "too powerful if i had social skills" from ''Melancholie'' (2023) – [https://open.spotify.com/track/1J8zDrAstQNKgLnXPjKwdm Spotify] | [https://francium223.bandcamp.com/track/too-powerful-if-i-had-social-skills Bandcamp] | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyzN0P6icf0 YouTube]
* "Stay Away From The Fog" from ''Void'' (2025) – [https://open.spotify.com/track/6swFGV70cPYwruPrnu3iHX Spotify] | [https://francium223.bandcamp.com/track/stay-away-from-the-fog Bandcamp] | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVsjM-LRjNo YouTube]
 
; [[Budjarn Lambeth]]
* [https://youtu.be/YDbqf3g88BE ''The Odd Effects of Breathing the Fairy Dust''] (2026)
 
; [[Ray Perlner]]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ4B47S1TUI ''Chinchillian Fugue''] – first mode of the Porcupine[7] scale in 59edo
 
[[Category:Porcupine]]
[[Category:Listen]]
[[Category:Todo:add rank 2 temperaments table]]
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