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The '''syntonic-enneadecal equivalence continuum''' is a continuum of 5-limit temperaments which equate a number of [[81/80|syntonic commas (81/80)]] with the 19-comma ({{Monzo|-30 19}}).
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The '''syntonic–kleismic equivalence continuum''' (or '''syntonic–enneadecal equivalence continuum''') is a [[equivalence continuum|continuum]] of [[5-limit]] [[regular temperament|temperaments]] which equate a number of [[81/80|syntonic commas (81/80)]] with the [[19-comma]] ({{monzo| -30 19 }}).


All temperaments in the continuum satisfy (81/80)<sup>''k''</sup> ~ {{monzo|-30 19}}. Varying ''k'' results in different temperaments listed in the table below. It converges to [[meantone]] as ''k'' approaches infinity. If we allow non-integer and infinite ''k'', the continuum describes the set of all [[5-limit]] temperaments supported by [[19edo]] (due to it being the unique equal temperament that tempers both commas and thus tempers all combinations of them). The just value of ''k'' is approximately 6.376..., and temperaments having ''k'' near this value tend to be the most accurate ones.
All temperaments in the continuum satisfy {{nowrap|(81/80)<sup>''n''</sup> ~ {{monzo| -30 19 }}}}. Varying ''n'' results in different temperaments listed in the table below. It converges to [[meantone]] as ''n'' approaches infinity. If we allow non-integer and infinite ''n'', the continuum describes the set of all [[5-limit]] temperaments [[support]]ed by [[19edo]] (due to it being the unique equal temperament that tempers out both commas and thus tempers out all combinations of them). The just value of ''n'' is approximately 6.376…, and temperaments having ''n'' near this value tend to be the most accurate ones.


This continuum can be expressed as the relationship between 81/80 and the [[enneadeca]] ({{Monzo|-14 -19 19}}). That is, (81/80)<sup>''n''</sup> ~ {{monzo|-14 -19 19}}. In this case, ''n'' = 3''k'' - 19.
This continuum can also be expressed as the relationship between 81/80 and the [[enneadeca]] ({{monzo| -14 -19 19 }}). That is, {{nowrap|(81/80)<sup>''k''</sup> ~ {{monzo| -14 -19 19 }}}}. In this case, {{nowrap| ''k'' {{=}} 3''n'' 19 }}.


{| class="wikitable center-1 center-2"
{| class="wikitable center-1 center-2"
|+ Temperaments in the continuum
|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | Temperaments with integer ''n''
|-
|-
! rowspan="2" | ''k''
! rowspan="2" | ''n''
! rowspan="2" | Temperament
! rowspan="2" | Temperament
! colspan="2" | Comma
! colspan="2" | Comma
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|-
|-
| 0
| 0
| 19 &amp; 19c
| [[Graywood]]
| [[19-comma|1162261467/1073741824]]
| [[19-comma|1162261467/1073741824]]
| {{monzo|-30 19}}
| {{Monzo| -30 19 }}
|-
|-
| 1
| 1
| Lalayo
| 7c & 12c
| [[71744535/67108864]]
| [[71744535/67108864]]
| {{monzo|-26 15 1}}
| {{Monzo| -26 15 1 }}
|-
|-
| 2
| 2
| [[High badness temperaments#Hogzilla|Hogzilla]]
| [[Hogzilla]]
| [[4428675/4194304]]
| [[4428675/4194304]]
| {{monzo|-22 11 2}}
| {{monzo|-22 11 2}}
|-
|-
| 3
| 3
| [[High badness temperaments#Stump|Stump]]
| [[Stump]]
| [[273375/262144]]
| [[273375/262144]]
| {{monzo|-18 7 3}}
| {{Monzo| -18 7 3 }}
|-
|-
| 4
| 4
| [[Negri]]
| [[Negri]]
| [[16875/16384]]
| [[16875/16384]]
| {{monzo|-14 3 4}}
| {{Monzo| -14 3 4 }}
|-
|-
| 5
| 5
| [[Magic]]
| [[Magic]]
| [[3125/3072]]
| [[3125/3072]]
| {{monzo|-10 -1 5}}
| {{Monzo| -10 -1 5 }}
|-
|-
| 6
| 6
| [[Hanson]]
| [[Hanson]]
| [[15625/15552]]
| [[15625/15552]]
| {{monzo|-6 -5 6}}
| {{Monzo| -6 -5 6 }}
|-
|-
| 7
| 7
| [[Sensi]]
| [[Sensipent]]
| [[78732/78125]]
| [[78732/78125]]
| {{monzo|2 9 -7}}
| {{Monzo| 2 9 -7 }}
|-
|-
| 8
| 8
| [[Unicorn]]
| [[Unicorn]]
| [[1594323/1562500]]
| [[1594323/1562500]]
| {{monzo|-2 13 -8}}
| {{Monzo| -2 13 -8 }}
|-
|-
| 9
| 9
| 19 &amp; 51c
| [[Xenial]]
| [[129140163/125000000]]
| [[129140163/125000000]]
| {{monzo|-6 17 -9}}
| {{Monzo| -6 17 -9 }}
|-
|-
| …
| …
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| [[Meantone]]
| [[Meantone]]
| [[81/80]]
| [[81/80]]
| {{monzo| -4 4 -1}}
| {{Monzo| -4 4 -1 }}
|}
|}


Examples of temperaments with fractional values of ''k'':
Examples of temperaments with fractional values of ''k'':


* 19 &amp; 8c (''k'' = 3.5)
{| class="wikitable"
* [[High badness temperaments#Unsmate|Unsmate]] (''k'' = 4.5)
|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | Notable temperaments of fractional ''n''
* [[Sycamore family#Sycamore|Sycamore]] (''k'' = 5.5)
|-
* [[Counterhanson]] (''k'' = 25/4 = 6.25)
! Temperament !! ''n'' !! Comma
* [[Enneadecal]] (''k'' = 19/3 = 6.{{overline|3}})
|-
* [[Very high accuracy temperaments#Egads|Egads]] (''k'' = 51/8 = 6.375)
| [[Unsmate]] || 9/2 = 4.5 || {{monzo| -24 2 9 }}
* [[Acrokleismic]] (''k'' = 32/5 = 6.4)
|-
* 19 &amp; 506 (''k'' = 58/9 = 6.{{overline|4}})
| [[Sycamore]] || 11/2 = 5.5 || {{monzo| -16 -6 11 }}
* [[Parakleismic]] (''k'' = 6.5)
|-
* [[Countermeantone]] (''k'' = 20/3 = 6.{{overline|6}})
| [[Counterhanson]] || 25/4 = 6.25 || {{monzo| -20 -24 25 }}
* [[Mowgli]] (''k'' = 7.5)
|-
| [[Enneadecal]] || 19/3 = 6.{{overline|3}} || {{monzo| -14 -19 19 }}
|-
| [[Egads]] || 51/8 = 6.375 || {{monzo| -36 -52 51 }}
|-
| [[Acrokleismic]] || 32/5 = 6.4 || {{monzo| 22 33 -32 }}
|-
| [[Parakleismic]] || 13/2 = 6.5 || {{monzo| 8 14 -13 }}
|-
| [[Countermeantone]] || 20/3 = 6.{{overline|6}} || {{monzo| 10 23 -20 }}
|-
| [[Mowgli]] || 15/2 = 7.5 || {{monzo| 0 22 -15 }}
|}
 
== Graywood ==
Named by [[CompactStar]] in 2024, graywood tempers out the [[19-comma]], corresponding to {{nowrap| ''n'' {{=}} 0 }}. It takes [[19edo]]'s closed [[circle of fifths]], but adds an independent generator for [[prime interval|prime]] [[5/1|5]]. 19 is the only equal temperament that makes it to the optimal ET sequence as all the small edo tunings, e.g. [[38edo|38c-edo]] or [[57edo|57c-edo]], are not nearly as accurate as 19 itself.
 
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
 
[[Comma list]]: 1162261467/1073741824
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 19 30 0 | 0 0 1 }}
: mapping generators: ~2187/2048, ~5
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2187/2048 = 63.2773{{c}}, ~5/4 = 381.7568{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +2.268 -3.637 -0.020 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2187/2048 = 63.1579{{c}}, ~5/4 = 382.7889{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -7.218 -3.525 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19 }}
 
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 32.4
 
== Hogzilla ==
: ''For extensions, see [[Semaphoresmic clan #Helayo]].''
 
Hogzilla is similar to [[godzilla]] in that it is generated by a [[semitwelfth]]. It corresponds to {{nowrap| ''n'' {{=}} 2 }}.
 
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
 
[[Comma list]]: 4428675/4194304
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 11 | 0 2 -11 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~2048/1215
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1202.5490{{c}}, ~2048/1215 = 949.3637{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +2.549 -3.228 -1.275 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~2048/1215 = 947.2462{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -7.463 -6.022 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 14, 19 }}
 
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 9.96
 
== Stump ==
: ''For extensions, see [[Marvel temperaments #Triton]] and [[Sensamagic clan #Pycnic]].''
 
Stump splits the [[3/1|3rd]] [[harmonic]] into three equal parts, each for [[~]][[64/45]]. It corresponds to {{nowrap| ''n'' {{=}} 3 }}.
 
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
 
[[Comma list]]: 273375/262144
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 6 | 0 3 -7 }}
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1202.6288{{c}}, ~64/45 = 633.1214{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +2.629 -2.591 -2.391 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~64/45 = 631.6779{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -6.921 -8.059 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 17, 19, 207bbccc }}
 
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 4.71
 
== Negri (5-limit) ==
{{Main| Negri }}
: ''For extensions, see [[Semaphoresmic clan #Negri]].''
 
The 5-limit version of negri tempers out the [[negri comma]], spliting a perfect fourth into four ~16/15 generators. It corresponds to {{nowrap| ''n'' {{=}} 4 }}. The only 7-limit extension that make any sense to use is to map the hemifourth to 7/6~8/7.  


== Lalayo ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
[[Comma list]]: {{Monzo|-26 15 1}} = 71744535/67108864


[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 2 -4 }}, {{val| 0 -1 15 }}]
[[Comma list]]: 16875/16384


[[POTE generator]]: ~4/3 = 505.348 cents
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 2 2 | 0 -4 3 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~16/15


{{Val list|legend=1| 7c, 12c, 19 }}
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1202.3403{{c}}, ~16/15 = 126.0002{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +2.340 -1.275 -3.633 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~16/15 = 125.6610{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -4.599 -9.331 }}


[[Badness]]: 0.803397
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 9, 10, 19, 67c, 86c, 105c }}


== Lalasepyo (8c &amp; 19) ==
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.04
[[Comma list]]: {{Monzo|-32 10 7}} = 4613203125/4294967296


[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 -1 6 }}, {{val| 0 7 -10 }}]
== Xenial ==
: ''For extensions, see [[Starling temperaments #Xenial]] and [[Sensamagic clan #Xenia]].''


[[POTE generator]]: ~675/512 = 442.2674 cents
Named by [[User:Xenllium|Xenllium]] in 2026, xenial splits the [[8/3|perfect eleventh]] into nine equal parts, each for ~[[10/9]]. It corresponds to {{nowrap| ''n'' {{=}} 9 }}. Its [[ploidacot]] is zeta-enneacot, and from this it derives its name.


{{Val list|legend=1| 8c, 11, 19 }}
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5


[[Badness]]: 1.061630
[[Comma list]]: 129140163/125000000
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -6 -12 | 0 9 17 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~9/5
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.2802{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.2914{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.280 -2.013 +2.278 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.0762{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -2.269 +1.982 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, 70, 89, 108, 127 }}
 
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 8.84
 
== Lalasepyo (8c & 11) ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
 
[[Comma list]]: 4613203125/4294967296
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -1 6 | 0 7 -10 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~675/512
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1202.5641{{c}}, ~675/512 = 443.2124{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +2.564 -2.033 -3.053 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~675/512 = 442.2692{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -6.071 -9.006 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 8c, 11, 19 }}
 
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 24.9


[http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=19_8c&limit=5 The temperament finder - 5-limit 19 & 8c]
[http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=19_8c&limit=5 The temperament finder - 5-limit 19 & 8c]


== Counterhanson ==
== Unsmate ==
{{See also|Ragismic microtemperaments #Counterkleismic}}
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
 
[[Comma list]]: 17578125/16777216
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -6 4 | 0 9 -2 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~1875/1024
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1201.8892{{c}}, ~1875/1024 = 1012.5428{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +1.889 -0.405 -3.843 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~1875/1024 = 1011.0348{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -2.642 -8.383 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 6b, 13, 19, 89c, 108c, 127c, 146cc }}
 
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 10.8
 
== Parakleismic ==
{{Main| Parakleismic }}
: ''For extensions, see [[Ragismic microtemperaments #Parakleismic]] and [[Starling temperaments #Paraguay]].''
 
The 5-limit version of parakleismic tempers out the [[parakleisma]]. It corresponds to {{nowrap| ''n'' {{=}} 13/2 }}, and 13 generator steps give the interval class of [[3/1|3]].
 
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
 
[[Comma list]]: 1224440064/1220703125
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -8 -8 | 0 13 14 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~5/3
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.971{{c}}, ~5/3 = 884.7383{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.029 -0.127 +0.253 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~5/3 = 884.8576{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.106 +0.293 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, 61, 80, 99, 118, 453, 571, 689, 1496 }}
 
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.02
 
== Mowgli ==
: ''For extensions, see [[Hemimean clan #Mowglic]].''
 
[[TE]], [[CTE]] and [[POTE]] coincide at 126.7237{{c}} with pure octaves since prime 2 is not involved in the comma to begin with.
 
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
 
[[Comma list]]: 31381059609/30517578125
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 | 0 15 22 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~27/25


[[Comma list]]: {{Monzo|-20 -24 25}} = 298023223876953125/296148833645101056
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.9478{{c}}, ~27/25 = 126.7236{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.001 -1.100 +1.606 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~27/25 = 126.7237{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.100 +1.607 }}


[[Mapping]]: [{{val|1 -5 -4}}, {{val|0 25 24}}]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, 85c, 104c, 123, 142, 161, 303 }}


[[POTE generator]]: ~6/5 = 316.081 cents
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 15.3


{{Val list|legend=1| 19, 148, 167, 186, 205, 224, 429, 653, 1082, 1735c }}
== Enneadecal (5-limit) ==
: ''For extensions, see [[Ragismic microtemperaments #Enneadecal]].''


[[Badness]]: 0.317551
The 5-limit version of enneadecal tempers out the [[enneadeca]], which simply equates a stack of nineteen [[6/5]] minor thirds with five [[2/1|octaves]]. It corresponds to {{nowrap| ''n'' {{=}} 19/3 }}, with a 19th-octave period and a generator of a [[3/2|perfect fifth]].  


== 19 &amp; 506 ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
[[Comma list]]: {{Monzo| 38 61 -58 }}


[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 26 28 }}, {{val| 0 -58 -61 }}]
[[Comma list]]: 19073486328125/19042491875328


[[POTE generator]]: ~{{monzo|-12 -20 19}} = 505.1394 cents
{{Mapping|legend=1| 19 0 14 | 0 1 1 }}
: mapping generators: ~648/625, ~3


{{Val list|legend=1| 19, 468, 487, 506, 1031 }}
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~648/625 = 63.1579{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.9861{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.013 +0.044 -0.095 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~648/625 = 63.1579{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.9900{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.035 -0.113 }}


[[Badness]]: 2.105450
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, 95, 114, 133, 152, 171, 323, 494, 665, 1159, 1824, 2983, 7125c }}


[http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=19_506&limit=5 The temperament finder - 5-limit 19 & 506]
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.12


== Countermeantone ==
== Countermeantone ==
[[Comma list]]: {{Monzo|10 23 -20}} = 96402615118848/95367431640625
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5


[[Mapping]]: [{{val|1 10 12}}, {{val|0 -20 -23}}]
[[Comma list]]: {{monzo| 10 23 -20 }}


[[POTE generator]]: ~104976/78125 = 504.913 cents
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -10 -11 | 0 20 23 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~78125/52488


{{Val list|legend=1| 19, 126, 145, 164, 183, 713, 896c, 1079c, 1262c }}
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.9478{{c}}, ~78125/52488 = 695.0566{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.052 -0.301 +0.562 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~78125/52488 = 695.0846{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.264 +0.631 }}


[[Badness]]: 0.373477
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, …, 126, 145, 164, 183, 713, 896c, 1079c, 1262c, 1445c }}


== Mowgli ==
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 8.76
[[Comma list]]: {{Monzo|0 22 -15}}
 
== Counterhanson ==
: ''For extensions, see [[Ragismic microtemperaments #Counterkleismic]].''
 
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
 
[[Comma list]]: {{monzo| -20 -24 25 }}
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -5 -4 | 0 25 24 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~6/5
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.0419{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.0916{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.042 +0.126 -0.282 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.0021{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.097 -0.344 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, …, 148, 167, 186, 205, 224, 429, 653, 1082, 1735c }}
 
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 7.45
 
== Oviminor ==
{{See also| Ragismic microtemperaments #Oviminor }}
 
Oviminor is named after the facts that it takes 184 minor thirds of 6/5 to reach 4/3, the Roman consul was Eggius in the year 184 AD, and the Latin word for egg is ovum, and with prefix ovi-. It sets a new record of complexity for a chain of nineteen 6/5's past [[egads]], though it is less accurate.
 
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
 
[[Comma list]]: {{monzo| -134 -185 184 }}


[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 0 0 }}, {{val| 0 15 22 }}]
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -134 -134 | 0 184 185 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~5/3


[[POTE generator]]: ~27/25 = 126.7237 cents
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.0094{{c}}, ~5/3 = 884.2568{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.009 +0.033 -0.069 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~5/3 = 884.2499{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.026 -0.083 }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 19, 85c, 104c, 123, 142, 161 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, , 1600, 3219, 4819 }}


[[Badness]]: 0.653871
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 751


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