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[[File:porcupine.png|thumb|Porcupine equates three minor thirds ( | {{Infobox regtemp | ||
[[File:porcupinesymmetricminor22edo.mp3|thumb|Symmetric minor mode of the | | Title = Porcupine | ||
'''Porcupine''' is a [[ | | Subgroups = 2.3.5, 2.3.5.11, 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
| Comma basis = [[250/243]] (2.3.5);<br>[[55/54]], [[100/99]] (2.3.5.11);<br>[[55/54]], [[64/63]], [[100/99]] (2.3.5.7.11) | |||
| Mapping = 1; -3 -5 6 -4 | |||
| Edo join 1 = 15 | Edo join 2 = 22 | |||
| Generators = 10/9 | |||
| Generators tuning = 163 | |||
| Optimization method = CWE | |||
| MOS scales = [[1L 6s]], [[7L 1s]], [[7L 8s]] | |||
| Pergen = (P8, P4/3) | |||
| Color name = Triyoti | |||
| Odd limit 1 = 5 | Mistuning 1 = 9.8 | Complexity 1 = 7 | |||
| Odd limit 2 = 11-limit 15 | Mistuning 2 = 19.9 | Complexity 2 = 15 | |||
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[[File:porcupine.png|thumb|Porcupine equates three minor thirds (6/5, in red) with two perfect fourths (4/3, in green). To do so, it tempers out 250/243, which implies a generator of a flat 10/9.|600x600px]] | |||
[[File:porcupinesymmetricminor22edo.mp3|thumb|Symmetric minor mode of the Porcupine[7] scale, containing two equal tetrachords with a major wholetone between them, in [[22edo]] tuning.]] | |||
'''Porcupine''' is a [[regular temperament|temperament]] that is [[generator|generated]] by a [[10/9|minor whole tone]] which is tuned flat to around 160–165 [[cent]]s. Two generators (stacked) represent [[6/5]], and three represent [[4/3]], so that the [[250/243|porcupine comma (250/243)]] is [[tempering out|tempered out]]; from this, the generator itself represents a very flat 10/9. This is in stark contrast to [[meantone]] temperaments, including [[12edo]], where 10/9 is tuned sharp and equated with [[9/8]] so that two of them reach a ''major'' third of [[5/4]]. The "equal tetrachord" formed by dividing 4/3 into 3 equal parts is a characteristic feature of many of porcupine's scales. | |||
One may also note that in [[just intonation]], a stack of three 6/5's is flat of the classical minor seventh [[9/5]] by [[25/24]], and a stack of two 4/3's is the Pythagorean minor seventh [[16/9]], which is flat of 9/5 by [[81/80]]. Thus, it can be determined that porcupine equates the syntonic comma 81/80 with the 5-limit chromatic semitone [[25/24]], which simplifies the 5-limit to a rank-2 structure in a simple way distinct from temperaments that reduce it to a strong extension of [[pythagorean]] (such as [[meantone]] and [[schismic]]). | |||
Porcupine can be thought of as a [[2.3.5.11 subgroup|2.3.5.11-subgroup]] temperament (sometimes called ''porkypine'') without much additional damage compared to the 5-limit; the generator here represents not only 10/9, but also [[11/10]] and [[12/11]] (equivalently, [[55/54]], [[100/99]], and [[121/120]] are tempered out), with the consequence that the [[11/9]] interval, usually considered a neutral third, is in porcupine identical to the 6/5 minor third, due to the extreme flatness of 10/9. This also means that [[27/20]], the 5-limit "acute fourth", is equivalent to [[11/8]] (rather than becoming 4/3 as in meantone), found at −4 generators (tuned to about 540–560 cents). This is because as the syntonic comma has been expanded, sharpening a fourth by a comma now leads to a significantly sharp interval close to the 11th harmonic. Porcupine is one of the most efficient temperaments in the 2.3.5.11 subgroup at a certain standard of accuracy. | |||
See [[Porcupine family #Porcupine]] for technical data. See [[Porcupine extensions]] for a discussion on [[13-limit]] [[extension]]s. | It is also very easy to extend porcupine to prime 7, because the 16/9, found at +6 generators (tuned to about 960–990{{c}}), has already been flattened to merge it with (6/5)<sup>3</sup>, and therefore can be equated to [[7/4]]. This makes porcupine a weak extension of [[archy]], splitting its generator into three parts; its Pythagorean major third is mapped to [[9/7]], and its fifth is tuned sharp, ranging from around 705–720{{c}}, with the best tunings around 711–712{{c}}, which roughly splits the damage on 7/4 and 9/7. This extension sets [[7/6]], 6/5, 5/4, and 9/7 equidistant, thus tempering out [[875/864]], making porcupine a [[keemic temperaments|keemic temperament]]. | ||
See [[Porcupine family #Porcupine]] for technical data and alternative 7-limit extensions. See [[Porcupine extensions]] for a discussion on [[13-limit]] [[extension]]s. | |||
== Interval chain == | == Interval chain == | ||
{{Main|Porcupine intervals}} | {{Main| Porcupine intervals }} | ||
In the following table, odd harmonics 1–11 are in '''bold'''. | In the following table, odd harmonics 1–11 are in '''bold'''. | ||
{| class="wikitable center-all right-2 left-3 right- | {| class="wikitable center-all right-2 left-3 right-7 left-8" | ||
! colspan=" | |- | ||
! colspan=" | ! colspan="5" | Up from the tonic, and fourthward | ||
! colspan="5" | Down from the octave, and fifthward | |||
|- | |- | ||
! # | ! # | ||
! Cents | ! Cents* | ||
! Ratios | ! Ratios | ||
! Porcupine<br>notation | |||
! Ups and downs<br>notation | ! Ups and downs<br>notation | ||
! # | ! # | ||
! Cents | ! Cents* | ||
! Ratios | ! Ratios | ||
! Porcupine<br>notation | |||
! Ups and downs<br>notation | ! Ups and downs<br>notation | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Line 36: | Line 57: | ||
| 0.0 | | 0.0 | ||
| '''1/1''' | | '''1/1''' | ||
| P1 | |||
| P1 | | P1 | ||
| 0 | | 0 | ||
| 1200.0 | | 1200.0 | ||
| '''2/1''' | | '''2/1''' | ||
| P8 | |||
| P8 | | P8 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Line 45: | Line 68: | ||
| 162.8 | | 162.8 | ||
| 10/9, 11/10, 12/11 | | 10/9, 11/10, 12/11 | ||
| P2 | |||
| vM2 = ^^m2 | | vM2 = ^^m2 | ||
| | | −1 | ||
| 1037.2 | | 1037.2 | ||
| 9/5, 11/6, 20/11 | | 9/5, 11/6, 20/11 | ||
| P7 | |||
| ^m7 = vvM7 | | ^m7 = vvM7 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Line 54: | Line 79: | ||
| 325.6 | | 325.6 | ||
| 6/5, 11/9 | | 6/5, 11/9 | ||
| m3 | |||
| ^m3 = vvM3 | | ^m3 = vvM3 | ||
| | | −2 | ||
| 874.4 | | 874.4 | ||
| 5/3, 18/11 | | 5/3, 18/11 | ||
| M6 | |||
| vM6 = ^^m6 | | vM6 = ^^m6 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Line 63: | Line 90: | ||
| 488.4 | | 488.4 | ||
| 4/3 | | 4/3 | ||
| m4 | |||
| P4 | | P4 | ||
| | | −3 | ||
| 711.6 | | 711.6 | ||
| '''3/2''' | | '''3/2''' | ||
| M5 | |||
| P5 | | P5 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Line 72: | Line 101: | ||
| 651.3 | | 651.3 | ||
| 16/11, 22/15 | | 16/11, 22/15 | ||
| m5 | |||
| v5 = ^^d5 | | v5 = ^^d5 | ||
| | | −4 | ||
| 548.7 | | 548.7 | ||
| '''11/8''', 15/11 | | '''11/8''', 15/11 | ||
| M4 | |||
| ^4 = vvA4 | | ^4 = vvA4 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Line 81: | Line 112: | ||
| 814.1 | | 814.1 | ||
| 8/5 | | 8/5 | ||
| m6 | |||
| ^m6 = vvM6 | | ^m6 = vvM6 | ||
| | | −5 | ||
| 385.9 | | 385.9 | ||
| '''5/4''' | | '''5/4''' | ||
| M3 | |||
| vM3 = ^^m3 | | vM3 = ^^m3 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Line 90: | Line 123: | ||
| 976.9 | | 976.9 | ||
| '''7/4''', 16/9 | | '''7/4''', 16/9 | ||
| d7 | |||
| m7 | | m7 | ||
| | | −6 | ||
| 223.1 | | 223.1 | ||
| 8/7, '''9/8''' | | 8/7, '''9/8''' | ||
| A2 | |||
| M2 | | M2 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 7 | | 7 | ||
| 1139.7 | | 1139.7 | ||
| 48/25, | | 35/18, 48/25, 64/33 | ||
| d8 | |||
| v8 = ^^d8 | | v8 = ^^d8 | ||
| | | −7 | ||
| 60.3 | | 60.3 | ||
| 25/24, | | 25/24, 33/32, 36/35 | ||
| A1 | |||
| ^1 = vvA1 | | ^1 = vvA1 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Line 108: | Line 145: | ||
| 102.5 | | 102.5 | ||
| 16/15, 21/20 | | 16/15, 21/20 | ||
| d2 | |||
| ^m2 = vvM2 | | ^m2 = vvM2 | ||
| | | −8 | ||
| 1097.5 | | 1097.5 | ||
| 15/8, 40/21 | | 15/8, 40/21 | ||
| A7 | |||
| vM7 = ^^m7 | | vM7 = ^^m7 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Line 117: | Line 156: | ||
| 265.3 | | 265.3 | ||
| 7/6 | | 7/6 | ||
| d3 | |||
| m3 | | m3 | ||
| | | −9 | ||
| 934.7 | | 934.7 | ||
| 12/7 | | 12/7 | ||
| A6 | |||
| M6 | | M6 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Line 126: | Line 167: | ||
| 428.2 | | 428.2 | ||
| 14/11 | | 14/11 | ||
| d4 | |||
| v4 = ^^d4 | | v4 = ^^d4 | ||
| | | −10 | ||
| 771.8 | | 771.8 | ||
| 11/7 | | 11/7 | ||
| A5 | |||
| ^5 = vvA5 | | ^5 = vvA5 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Line 135: | Line 178: | ||
| 591.0 | | 591.0 | ||
| 7/5 | | 7/5 | ||
| d5 | |||
| ^d5 = vv5 | | ^d5 = vv5 | ||
| | | −11 | ||
| 609.0 | | 609.0 | ||
| 10/7 | | 10/7 | ||
| A4 | |||
| vA4 = ^^4 | | vA4 = ^^4 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Line 144: | Line 189: | ||
| 753.8 | | 753.8 | ||
| 14/9 | | 14/9 | ||
| d6 | |||
| m6 | | m6 | ||
| | | −12 | ||
| 446.2 | | 446.2 | ||
| 9/7 | | 9/7 | ||
| A3 | |||
| M3 | | M3 | ||
|} | |} | ||
<nowiki/>* In 11-limit [[CWE tuning]], octave reduced | |||
In the ups and downs notation, the [[enharmonic unison]] is the trudsharp, the triple-down augmented unison. The porcupine notation does not have an enharmonic unison. | |||
Besides the specific tuning shown here, there is a range of acceptable porcupine tunings that includes generators as small as 160{{c}} ([[15edo]]) and as large as 165.5{{c}} ([[29edo]]). However, the 29edo patent val does not support full 11-limit porcupine proper, since it does not temper out [[64/63]]. | |||
== Chords and harmony == | |||
{{Main| Chords of porcupine }} | |||
[[12/11]], [[11/10]], and [[10/9]] are all represented by the same interval, the generator. This makes chords such as 8:9:10:11:12 exceptionally common and easy to find. | [[12/11]], [[11/10]], and [[10/9]] are all represented by the same interval, the generator. This makes chords such as 8:9:10:11:12 exceptionally common and easy to find. | ||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
|- | |||
| [[File:OtonalPentad_JI.mp3]] | | [[File:OtonalPentad_JI.mp3]] | ||
| [[File:OtonalPentad_22edo.mp3]] | | [[File:OtonalPentad_22edo.mp3]] | ||
| [[File:OtonalPentad_29edo.mp3]] | | [[File:OtonalPentad_29edo.mp3]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 8:9:10:11:12 chord, in just intonation. <br> All intervals are slightly different. | | 8:9:10:11:12 chord, in just intonation.<br>All intervals are slightly different. | ||
| Porcupine-tempered 8:9:10:11:12 chord, in [[22edo]]. <br> Except the first, the intervals are the same. | | Porcupine-tempered 8:9:10:11:12 chord, in [[22edo]].<br>Except the first, the intervals are the same. | ||
| Porcupine-tempered 8:9:10:11:12 chord, in [[29edo]]. <br> Except the first, the intervals are the same. | | Porcupine-tempered 8:9:10:11:12 chord, in [[29edo]].<br>Except the first, the intervals are the same. | ||
|} | |} | ||
The [[ | The interval representing both [[25/24]] and [[81/80]] can be found in this interval chain at −7 steps, and ranges from about 45 to 80{{c}} depending on the tuning. This can be considered the "chroma" of porcupine temperament. | ||
== Scales == | |||
[[File:porcupine8.jpg|thumb|Porcupine[8]]] | |||
{{Main| Porcupine scales }} | |||
{{Main| | |||
; Mos scales, tuning optimized on the 2.3.5.11 subgroup | ; Mos scales, tuning optimized on the 2.3.5.11 subgroup | ||
* [[Porkypine7]] | * [[Porkypine7]] | ||
| Line 178: | Line 231: | ||
* [[Porkypine15]] | * [[Porkypine15]] | ||
; Mos scales, 8/5.12/7 [[Eigenmonzo|eigenmonzo (unchanged | ; Mos scales, 8/5.12/7 [[Eigenmonzo|eigenmonzo (unchanged interval)]] tuning: | ||
* [[Porcupinewoo15]] | * [[Porcupinewoo15]] | ||
* [[Porcupinewoo22]] | * [[Porcupinewoo22]] | ||
| Line 184: | Line 237: | ||
== Tunings == | == Tunings == | ||
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" | {| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" | ||
|+ style="font-size: 105%; white-space: nowrap;" | 5-limit | |+ style="font-size: 105%; white-space: nowrap;" | 5-limit norm-based tunings | ||
|- | |- | ||
! rowspan="2" | | ! rowspan="2" | | ||
! colspan=" | ! colspan="3" | Euclidean | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Constrained !! Constrained & skewed | ! Constrained !! Constrained & skewed !! Destretched | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Equilateral | ! Equilateral | ||
| CEE: ~10/9 = 163.6049{{c}} | | CEE: ~10/9 = 163.6049{{c}} | ||
| CSEE: ~10/9 = 163.2835{{c}} | | CSEE: ~10/9 = 163.2835{{c}} | ||
| POEE: ~10/9 = 163.9280{{c}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
! Tenney | ! Tenney | ||
| CTE: ~10/9 = 164.1659{{c}} | | CTE: ~10/9 = 164.1659{{c}} | ||
| CWE: ~10/9 = 164.0621{{c}} | | CWE: ~10/9 = 164.0621{{c}} | ||
| POTE: ~10/9 = 163.9504{{c}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
! Benedetti, <br>Wilson | ! Benedetti, <br>Wilson | ||
| CBE: ~10/9 = 164.3761{{c}} | | CBE: ~10/9 = 164.3761{{c}} | ||
| CSBE: ~10/9 = 164.3761{{c}} | | CSBE: ~10/9 = 164.3761{{c}} | ||
| POBE: ~10/9 = 164.1610{{c}} | |||
|} | |} | ||
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" | {| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" | ||
|+ style="font-size: 105%; white-space: nowrap;" | 2.3.5.11-subgroup | |+ style="font-size: 105%; white-space: nowrap;" | 2.3.5.11-subgroup norm-based tunings | ||
|- | |- | ||
! rowspan="2" | | ! rowspan="2" | | ||
! colspan=" | ! colspan="3" | Euclidean | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Constrained !! Constrained & skewed | ! Constrained !! Constrained & skewed !! Destretched | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Equilateral | ! Equilateral | ||
| CEE: ~11/10 = 163.1459{{c}} | | CEE: ~11/10 = 163.1459{{c}} | ||
| CSEE: ~11/10 = 162.8445{{c}} | | CSEE: ~11/10 = 162.8445{{c}} | ||
| POEE: ~11/10 = 164.1867{{c}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
! Tenney | ! Tenney | ||
| CTE: ~11/10 = 163.8867{{c}} | | CTE: ~11/10 = 163.8867{{c}} | ||
| CWE: ~11/10 = 163.9951{{c}} | | CWE: ~11/10 = 163.9951{{c}} | ||
| POTE: ~11/10 = 164.0777{{c}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
! Benedetti, <br>Wilson | ! Benedetti, <br>Wilson | ||
| CBE: ~11/10 = 164.2393{{c}} | | CBE: ~11/10 = 164.2393{{c}} | ||
| CSBE: ~11/10 = 164.4623{{c}} | | CSBE: ~11/10 = 164.4623{{c}} | ||
| POBE: ~11/10 = 164.2221{{c}} | |||
|} | |||
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" | |||
|+ style="font-size: 105%; white-space: nowrap;" | 11-limit norm-based tunings | |||
|- | |||
! rowspan="2" | | |||
! colspan="3" | Euclidean | |||
|- | |||
! Constrained !! Constrained & skewed !! Destretched | |||
|- | |||
! Equilateral | |||
| CEE: ~11/10 = 162.4448{{c}} | |||
| CSEE: ~11/10 = 162.2333{{c}} | |||
| POEE: ~11/10 = 162.2522{{c}} | |||
|- | |||
! Tenney | |||
| CTE: ~11/10 = 163.1055{{c}} | |||
| CWE: ~11/10 = 162.8156{{c}} | |||
| POTE: ~11/10 = 162.7474{{c}} | |||
|- | |||
! Benedetti, <br>Wilson | |||
| CBE: ~11/10 = 163.5299{{c}} | |||
| CSBE: ~11/10 = 163.2310{{c}} | |||
| POBE: ~11/10 = 163.0304{{c}} | |||
|} | |} | ||
| Line 228: | Line 311: | ||
{| class="wikitable center-all left-4" | {| class="wikitable center-all left-4" | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | ! EDO<br>generator | ||
! [[Eigenmonzo| | ! [[Eigenmonzo|Unchanged interval<br>(eigenmonzo)]]* | ||
! Generator (¢) | ! Generator (¢) | ||
! Comments | ! Comments | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 1\8 | | '''[[8edo|1\8]]''' | ||
| | | | ||
| 150.000 | | '''150.000''' | ||
| Lower bound of 5-odd-limit diamond monotone | | '''Lower bound of 5-odd-limit diamond monotone''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | ||
| 12/11 | | [[12/11]] | ||
| 150.637 | | 150.637 | ||
| Lower bound of 11-odd-limit diamond tradeoff | | Lower bound of 11-odd-limit and 11-limit 15-odd-limit diamond tradeoff | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | ||
| 6/5 | | [[6/5]] | ||
| 157.821 | | 157.821 | ||
| | | 1/2-comma; lower bound of 5-, 7-, and 9-odd-limit diamond tradeoff | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 2\15 | | '''[[15edo|2\15]]''' | ||
| | | | ||
| 160.000 | | '''160.000''' | ||
| Lower bound of 7- | | '''Lower bound of 7-odd-limit to 11-limit 15-odd-limit diamond monotone''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | ||
| | | [[7/4]] | ||
| 161.471 | | 161.471 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |||
| [[52edo|7\52]] | |||
| | |||
| 161.538 | |||
| 52b val | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | ||
| 14/11 | | [[14/11]] | ||
| 161.751 | | 161.751 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | ||
| 7/5 | | [[7/5]] | ||
| 162.047 | | 162.047 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 5\37 | | [[37edo|5\37]] | ||
| | | | ||
| 162.162 | | 162.162 | ||
| Line 274: | Line 362: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | ||
| 11 | | [[16/11]] | ||
| 162.171 | | 162.171 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 8\59 | | [[96edo|13\96]] | ||
| | |||
| 162.500 | |||
| 96b val | |||
|- | |||
| [[59edo|8\59]] | |||
| | | | ||
| 162.712 | | 162.712 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | ||
| 5 | | [[8/5]] | ||
| 162.737 | | 162.737 | ||
| 5- and 7-odd-limit minimax | | 2/5-comma, 5- and 7-odd-limit minimax | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | ||
| 15 | | [[28/15]] | ||
| 162.897 | | 162.897 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | ||
| 7/6 | | [[7/6]] | ||
| 162.986 | | 162.986 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 3\22 | | '''[[22edo|3\22]]''' | ||
| | | | ||
| 163.636 | | '''163.636''' | ||
| Upper bound of 7- | | '''Upper bound of 7-odd-limit to 11-limit 15-odd-limit diamond monotone''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | ||
| 9 | | [[14/9]] | ||
| 163.743 | | 163.743 | ||
| 9- and 11-odd-limit minimax | | 9-, 11-, and 11-limit 15-odd-limit minimax | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | ||
| 16/15 | | [[16/15]] | ||
| 163.966 | | 163.966 | ||
| | | 3/8-comma | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 7\51 | | [[51edo|7\51]] | ||
| | | | ||
| 164.706 | | 164.706 | ||
| | | 51d val | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | ||
| 11/10 | | [[11/10]] | ||
| 165.004 | | 165.004 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 4\29 | | [[29edo|4\29]] | ||
| | | | ||
| 165.517 | | 165.517 | ||
| | | 29d val | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | ||
| 15 | | [[22/15]] | ||
| 165.762 | | 165.762 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | ||
| 4/3 | | [[4/3]] | ||
| 166.015 | | 166.015 | ||
| | | 1/3-comma; upper bound of 5- and 7-odd-limit diamond tradeoff | ||
|- | |||
| [[36edo|5\36]] | |||
| | |||
| 166.667 | |||
| 36cde val | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 1\7 | | '''[[7edo|1\7]]''' | ||
| | | | ||
| 171.429 | | '''171.429''' | ||
| Upper bound of 5-odd-limit diamond monotone | | '''Upper bound of 5-odd-limit diamond monotone''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | ||
| 11/9 | | [[11/9]] | ||
| 173.704 | | 173.704 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | ||
| 10/9 | | [[10/9]] | ||
| 182.404 | | 182.404 | ||
| | | Untempered generator; upper bound of 9- to 15-odd-limit diamond tradeoff | ||
|} | |} | ||
<nowiki/>* Besides the octave | |||
== History == | == History == | ||
Porcupine temperament/scales were discovered by [[Dave Keenan]], but did not have a name until [[Herman Miller]] mentioned that his Mizarian Porcupine Overture in 15et had a section that pumps the 250/243 comma. Although this music did not use a porcupine mos or [[modmos]] (which would have 7 or 8 notes), the name was adopted for such scales as well, once the essentially one-to-one relationship between vanishing commas and sequences of [[ | Porcupine temperament/scales were discovered by [[Dave Keenan]], but did not have a name until [[Herman Miller]] mentioned that his ''Mizarian Porcupine Overture'' in 15et had a section that pumps the 250/243 comma. Although this music did not use a porcupine mos or [[modmos]] (which would have 7 or 8 notes), the name was adopted for such scales as well, once the essentially one-to-one relationship between vanishing commas and sequences of [[MOS]] scales was fully evident. It was clear that even though Herman's piece was in 15edo, 22edo was a porcupine tuning par excellence, and that was an interesting development in itself. | ||
== See also == | == See also == | ||
* [[Porcupine | * [[Porcupine notation]] | ||
* [[Porcupine modes]] | * [[Porcupine modes]] | ||
* [[Porcupine temperament modal harmony]] | |||
* [[Porcupine Album Project]] | * [[Porcupine Album Project]] | ||
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=== 20th century === | === 20th century === | ||
; [[Herman Miller]] | ; [[Herman Miller]] | ||
* [https://sites.google.com/site/teamouse/home#TOC-Mizarian-music ''Mizarian Porcupine Overture''] (1999) – in [[15edo]] tuning, namesake of the temperament | * [https://sites.google.com/site/teamouse/home#TOC-Mizarian-music ''Mizarian Porcupine Overture''] (1999) – [https://web.archive.org/web/20201127014859/http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/micro/gene_ward_smith/Others/Herman/MizarianPorcupineOverture.mp3 play] – in [[15edo]] tuning, namesake of the temperament | ||
=== 21st century === | === 21st century === | ||
; [[Flora Canou]] | ; [[Flora Canou]] | ||
* [https://soundcloud.com/floracanou/april-porkfest?in=floracanou/sets/totmc-suite | * [https://soundcloud.com/floracanou/april-porkfest?in=floracanou/sets/totmc-suite "April Porkfest"] from [https://soundcloud.com/floracanou/sets/totmc-suite ''TOTMC Suite''] (2023–2025) – in 11-limit CTE tuning | ||
; [[User:CellularAutomaton|CellularAutomaton]] | ; [[User:CellularAutomaton|CellularAutomaton]] | ||
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; [[Jake Freivald]] | ; [[Jake Freivald]] | ||
* [ | * ''[https://soundcloud.com/jdfreivald/porcupine-comma-pump Porcupine Comma Pump]'' | ||
; [[Cody Hallenbeck]] | ; [[Cody Hallenbeck]] | ||
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; [[Chris Vaisvil]] | ; [[Chris Vaisvil]] | ||
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20231228102528/http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20110619_millers_porcupine_7a.mp3 | * ''Gently Playing With Miller's Porcupine'' (2011) – [https://www.chrisvaisvil.com/four-pieces-in-porcupine-temperament/ blog] | [https://web.archive.org/web/20231228102528/http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20110619_millers_porcupine_7a.mp3 play] – in Porcupine[7], mode 3|3, 15edo tuning | ||
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20231121064756/http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20111231-porcupine15-indian.mp3 ''15 Porcupines in India''] – sarangi, tambura and sitar improvisation | * [https://web.archive.org/web/20231121064756/http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20111231-porcupine15-indian.mp3 ''15 Porcupines in India''] – sarangi, tambura and sitar improvisation | ||
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20240118050711/http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20111231-porcupine15-piano.mp3 ''15 Quills''] – piano solo | * [https://web.archive.org/web/20240118050711/http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20111231-porcupine15-piano.mp3 ''15 Quills''] – piano solo | ||
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* [https://soundcloud.com/pianodog/waltzing-in-candyland-15-edo ''Waltzing in Candyland''] (2015) – in Porcupine[8], 15edo tuning | * [https://soundcloud.com/pianodog/waltzing-in-candyland-15-edo ''Waltzing in Candyland''] (2015) – in Porcupine[8], 15edo tuning | ||
; [[Juhani Nuorvala]] | |||
[ | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAHkjOvplVg ''Kellot (Bells)''] (2025) – in 96edo tuning | ||
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Latest revision as of 00:22, 30 April 2026
| Porcupine |
55/54, 100/99 (2.3.5.11);
55/54, 64/63, 100/99 (2.3.5.7.11)
11-limit 15-odd-limit: 19.9 ¢
11-limit 15-odd-limit: 15 notes

Porcupine is a temperament that is generated by a minor whole tone which is tuned flat to around 160–165 cents. Two generators (stacked) represent 6/5, and three represent 4/3, so that the porcupine comma (250/243) is tempered out; from this, the generator itself represents a very flat 10/9. This is in stark contrast to meantone temperaments, including 12edo, where 10/9 is tuned sharp and equated with 9/8 so that two of them reach a major third of 5/4. The "equal tetrachord" formed by dividing 4/3 into 3 equal parts is a characteristic feature of many of porcupine's scales.
One may also note that in just intonation, a stack of three 6/5's is flat of the classical minor seventh 9/5 by 25/24, and a stack of two 4/3's is the Pythagorean minor seventh 16/9, which is flat of 9/5 by 81/80. Thus, it can be determined that porcupine equates the syntonic comma 81/80 with the 5-limit chromatic semitone 25/24, which simplifies the 5-limit to a rank-2 structure in a simple way distinct from temperaments that reduce it to a strong extension of pythagorean (such as meantone and schismic).
Porcupine can be thought of as a 2.3.5.11-subgroup temperament (sometimes called porkypine) without much additional damage compared to the 5-limit; the generator here represents not only 10/9, but also 11/10 and 12/11 (equivalently, 55/54, 100/99, and 121/120 are tempered out), with the consequence that the 11/9 interval, usually considered a neutral third, is in porcupine identical to the 6/5 minor third, due to the extreme flatness of 10/9. This also means that 27/20, the 5-limit "acute fourth", is equivalent to 11/8 (rather than becoming 4/3 as in meantone), found at −4 generators (tuned to about 540–560 cents). This is because as the syntonic comma has been expanded, sharpening a fourth by a comma now leads to a significantly sharp interval close to the 11th harmonic. Porcupine is one of the most efficient temperaments in the 2.3.5.11 subgroup at a certain standard of accuracy.
It is also very easy to extend porcupine to prime 7, because the 16/9, found at +6 generators (tuned to about 960–990 ¢), has already been flattened to merge it with (6/5)3, and therefore can be equated to 7/4. This makes porcupine a weak extension of archy, splitting its generator into three parts; its Pythagorean major third is mapped to 9/7, and its fifth is tuned sharp, ranging from around 705–720 ¢, with the best tunings around 711–712 ¢, which roughly splits the damage on 7/4 and 9/7. This extension sets 7/6, 6/5, 5/4, and 9/7 equidistant, thus tempering out 875/864, making porcupine a keemic temperament.
See Porcupine family #Porcupine for technical data and alternative 7-limit extensions. See Porcupine extensions for a discussion on 13-limit extensions.
Interval chain
In the following table, odd harmonics 1–11 are in bold.
| Up from the tonic, and fourthward | Down from the octave, and fifthward | ||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| # | Cents* | Ratios | Porcupine notation |
Ups and downs notation |
# | Cents* | Ratios | Porcupine notation |
Ups and downs notation |
| 0 | 0.0 | 1/1 | P1 | P1 | 0 | 1200.0 | 2/1 | P8 | P8 |
| 1 | 162.8 | 10/9, 11/10, 12/11 | P2 | vM2 = ^^m2 | −1 | 1037.2 | 9/5, 11/6, 20/11 | P7 | ^m7 = vvM7 |
| 2 | 325.6 | 6/5, 11/9 | m3 | ^m3 = vvM3 | −2 | 874.4 | 5/3, 18/11 | M6 | vM6 = ^^m6 |
| 3 | 488.4 | 4/3 | m4 | P4 | −3 | 711.6 | 3/2 | M5 | P5 |
| 4 | 651.3 | 16/11, 22/15 | m5 | v5 = ^^d5 | −4 | 548.7 | 11/8, 15/11 | M4 | ^4 = vvA4 |
| 5 | 814.1 | 8/5 | m6 | ^m6 = vvM6 | −5 | 385.9 | 5/4 | M3 | vM3 = ^^m3 |
| 6 | 976.9 | 7/4, 16/9 | d7 | m7 | −6 | 223.1 | 8/7, 9/8 | A2 | M2 |
| 7 | 1139.7 | 35/18, 48/25, 64/33 | d8 | v8 = ^^d8 | −7 | 60.3 | 25/24, 33/32, 36/35 | A1 | ^1 = vvA1 |
| 8 | 102.5 | 16/15, 21/20 | d2 | ^m2 = vvM2 | −8 | 1097.5 | 15/8, 40/21 | A7 | vM7 = ^^m7 |
| 9 | 265.3 | 7/6 | d3 | m3 | −9 | 934.7 | 12/7 | A6 | M6 |
| 10 | 428.2 | 14/11 | d4 | v4 = ^^d4 | −10 | 771.8 | 11/7 | A5 | ^5 = vvA5 |
| 11 | 591.0 | 7/5 | d5 | ^d5 = vv5 | −11 | 609.0 | 10/7 | A4 | vA4 = ^^4 |
| 12 | 753.8 | 14/9 | d6 | m6 | −12 | 446.2 | 9/7 | A3 | M3 |
* In 11-limit CWE tuning, octave reduced
In the ups and downs notation, the enharmonic unison is the trudsharp, the triple-down augmented unison. The porcupine notation does not have an enharmonic unison.
Besides the specific tuning shown here, there is a range of acceptable porcupine tunings that includes generators as small as 160 ¢ (15edo) and as large as 165.5 ¢ (29edo). However, the 29edo patent val does not support full 11-limit porcupine proper, since it does not temper out 64/63.
Chords and harmony
12/11, 11/10, and 10/9 are all represented by the same interval, the generator. This makes chords such as 8:9:10:11:12 exceptionally common and easy to find.
| 8:9:10:11:12 chord, in just intonation. All intervals are slightly different. |
Porcupine-tempered 8:9:10:11:12 chord, in 22edo. Except the first, the intervals are the same. |
Porcupine-tempered 8:9:10:11:12 chord, in 29edo. Except the first, the intervals are the same. |
The interval representing both 25/24 and 81/80 can be found in this interval chain at −7 steps, and ranges from about 45 to 80 ¢ depending on the tuning. This can be considered the "chroma" of porcupine temperament.
Scales

- Mos scales, tuning optimized on the 2.3.5.11 subgroup
- Mos scales, 8/5.12/7 eigenmonzo (unchanged interval) tuning
Tunings
| Euclidean | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Constrained | Constrained & skewed | Destretched | |
| Equilateral | CEE: ~10/9 = 163.6049 ¢ | CSEE: ~10/9 = 163.2835 ¢ | POEE: ~10/9 = 163.9280 ¢ |
| Tenney | CTE: ~10/9 = 164.1659 ¢ | CWE: ~10/9 = 164.0621 ¢ | POTE: ~10/9 = 163.9504 ¢ |
| Benedetti, Wilson |
CBE: ~10/9 = 164.3761 ¢ | CSBE: ~10/9 = 164.3761 ¢ | POBE: ~10/9 = 164.1610 ¢ |
| Euclidean | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Constrained | Constrained & skewed | Destretched | |
| Equilateral | CEE: ~11/10 = 163.1459 ¢ | CSEE: ~11/10 = 162.8445 ¢ | POEE: ~11/10 = 164.1867 ¢ |
| Tenney | CTE: ~11/10 = 163.8867 ¢ | CWE: ~11/10 = 163.9951 ¢ | POTE: ~11/10 = 164.0777 ¢ |
| Benedetti, Wilson |
CBE: ~11/10 = 164.2393 ¢ | CSBE: ~11/10 = 164.4623 ¢ | POBE: ~11/10 = 164.2221 ¢ |
| Euclidean | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Constrained | Constrained & skewed | Destretched | |
| Equilateral | CEE: ~11/10 = 162.4448 ¢ | CSEE: ~11/10 = 162.2333 ¢ | POEE: ~11/10 = 162.2522 ¢ |
| Tenney | CTE: ~11/10 = 163.1055 ¢ | CWE: ~11/10 = 162.8156 ¢ | POTE: ~11/10 = 162.7474 ¢ |
| Benedetti, Wilson |
CBE: ~11/10 = 163.5299 ¢ | CSBE: ~11/10 = 163.2310 ¢ | POBE: ~11/10 = 163.0304 ¢ |
Tuning spectrum
| EDO generator |
Unchanged interval (eigenmonzo)* |
Generator (¢) | Comments |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1\8 | 150.000 | Lower bound of 5-odd-limit diamond monotone | |
| 12/11 | 150.637 | Lower bound of 11-odd-limit and 11-limit 15-odd-limit diamond tradeoff | |
| 6/5 | 157.821 | 1/2-comma; lower bound of 5-, 7-, and 9-odd-limit diamond tradeoff | |
| 2\15 | 160.000 | Lower bound of 7-odd-limit to 11-limit 15-odd-limit diamond monotone | |
| 7/4 | 161.471 | ||
| 7\52 | 161.538 | 52b val | |
| 14/11 | 161.751 | ||
| 7/5 | 162.047 | ||
| 5\37 | 162.162 | ||
| 16/11 | 162.171 | ||
| 13\96 | 162.500 | 96b val | |
| 8\59 | 162.712 | ||
| 8/5 | 162.737 | 2/5-comma, 5- and 7-odd-limit minimax | |
| 28/15 | 162.897 | ||
| 7/6 | 162.986 | ||
| 3\22 | 163.636 | Upper bound of 7-odd-limit to 11-limit 15-odd-limit diamond monotone | |
| 14/9 | 163.743 | 9-, 11-, and 11-limit 15-odd-limit minimax | |
| 16/15 | 163.966 | 3/8-comma | |
| 7\51 | 164.706 | 51d val | |
| 11/10 | 165.004 | ||
| 4\29 | 165.517 | 29d val | |
| 22/15 | 165.762 | ||
| 4/3 | 166.015 | 1/3-comma; upper bound of 5- and 7-odd-limit diamond tradeoff | |
| 5\36 | 166.667 | 36cde val | |
| 1\7 | 171.429 | Upper bound of 5-odd-limit diamond monotone | |
| 11/9 | 173.704 | ||
| 10/9 | 182.404 | Untempered generator; upper bound of 9- to 15-odd-limit diamond tradeoff |
* Besides the octave
History
Porcupine temperament/scales were discovered by Dave Keenan, but did not have a name until Herman Miller mentioned that his Mizarian Porcupine Overture in 15et had a section that pumps the 250/243 comma. Although this music did not use a porcupine mos or modmos (which would have 7 or 8 notes), the name was adopted for such scales as well, once the essentially one-to-one relationship between vanishing commas and sequences of MOS scales was fully evident. It was clear that even though Herman's piece was in 15edo, 22edo was a porcupine tuning par excellence, and that was an interesting development in itself.
See also
Music
20th century
- Mizarian Porcupine Overture (1999) – play – in 15edo tuning, namesake of the temperament
21st century
- "April Porkfest" from TOTMC Suite (2023–2025) – in 11-limit CTE tuning
- Porcupine Walk (2019)
- Sanctus (2015)
- being a (2010) – in Porcupine[8], mode 1|6, 22edo tuning
- Porcupeen (2017)
- "Porcupine", from pato, with friends (2019)
- Second Breakfast (15edo) (2018)[dead link]
- Porcupine Experience (2012) – in 22edo tuning
- Flying Straight Down (2020) – in 22edo tuning
- Life on Mars (2014)
- Porcupine Lullaby (2020) – in 37edo tuning
- Porcupine[7] Modal Fugues – 7-piece playlist
- Night on Porcupine Mountain (archived 2010) – in 22edo tuning
- Gently Playing With Miller's Porcupine (2011) – blog | play – in Porcupine[7], mode 3|3, 15edo tuning
- 15 Porcupines in India – sarangi, tambura and sitar improvisation
- 15 Quills – piano solo
- Prickly Side of Love – rock band with vocals
- Porcupine Organ Composition
- Porcupine Prelude 1 – in 22edo tuning
- Porcupine Prelude 2 – in 22edo tuning
- Porcupine Prelude 3 – in 22edo tuning
- Porcupine Praeambulum – in 22edo tuning
- Porcupine Chorale with Prelude "Nature's Lament" – in 22edo tuning
- Porcupine Major Overture (2015) – in 22edo tuning
- Waltzing in Candyland (2015) – in Porcupine[8], 15edo tuning
- Kellot (Bells) (2025) – in 96edo tuning