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{{Wikipedia|Diatonic scale}}


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Among the most well-known forms of this scale are the diatonic scale of [[12edo]], the Pythagorean diatonic scale, and scales produced by meantone systems.
==Name ==
[[TAMNAMS]] suggests the temperament-agnostic name '''diatonic''' for this scale, which commonly refers to a scale with 5 whole steps and 2 small steps. Under TAMNAMS and for all scale pattern pages on the wiki, '''the term ''diatonic'' exclusively refers to 5L 2s'''.


The term ''diatonic'' may also refer to scales produced using [[Tetrachord|tetrachords]], [[just intonation]], or in general have more than one size of whole tone. Such scales, such as [[Zarlino]], [[blackdye]] and [[diasem]], are specifically called ''[[Detempering|detempered]] diatonic scales'' (for an RTT-based philosophy) or ''deregularized diatonic scales'' (for an RTT-agnostic philosophy). The terms ''diatonic-like'' or ''diatonic-based'' may also be used to refer such scales, depending on what's contextually the most appropriate.
The familiar pattern of 5 whole steps and 2 half steps, commonly written as WWHWWWH for the major scale, takes on a generalized form of LLsLLLs, where the large and small steps—denoted as ''L''{{'s}} and ''s''{{`s}}—represent whole number step sizes, thus producing different [[edo]]s. These [[step ratio]]s affect the sizes of the diatonic scale's intervals and correspond to different tuning systems.
==Notation==
 
===Intervals ===
Among the most well-known forms of this scale are the Pythagorean diatonic scale, and scales produced by meantone systems (including [[12edo]]).
Intervals are identical to that of standard notation. As such, the usual [[Interval quality|interval qualities]] of major/minor and augmented/perfect/diminished apply here.
 
{| class="wikitable"
== Name ==
! rowspan="2" |Interval class
{{TAMNAMS name}} "Mosdiatonic" may also be used for the sake of specificity.
! colspan="2" |Large variety
 
! colspan="2" | Small variety
== Notation ==
|-
: ''This article assumes [[TAMNAMS]] for naming step ratios.''
!Size
 
!Quality
== Scale characteristics ==
! Size
{{TAMNAMS use}}
!Quality
 
|-
=== Intervals ===
|'''1st (unison)'''
{{MOS intervals}}
| 0
 
|Perfect
=== Generator chain ===
|0
{{MOS genchain}}
|Perfect
 
|-
=== Modes ===
|2nd
{{MOS mode degrees}}
| L
 
|Major
Diatonic modes have standard names from classical music theory.
|s
{{MOS modes}}
|Minor
 
|-
=== Note names ===
|3rd
Note names are identical to that of standard notation. Thus, the basic gamut for 5L 2s is the following:  
|2L
{{MOS gamut}}
| Major
 
|L + s
== Theory ==
|Minor
=== Temperament interpretations ===
|-
{{Main| {{PAGENAME}}/Temperaments }}
|4th
5L 2s has several rank-2 temperament interpretations, such as:
|3L
* [[Meantone]], with generators around 696.2{{c}}. This includes:
|Augmented
** [[Flattone]], with generators around 693.7{{c}}.
|2L + 1s
* [[Schismic]], with generators around 702{{c}}.
|Perfect
* [[Leapfrog]], with generators around 704.7{{c}}.
|-
* [[Archy]], with generators around 709.3{{c}}. This includes:
|5th
** Supra, with generators around 707.2{{c}}
| 3L + 1s
** [[Superpyth]], with generators around 710.3{{c}}
|Perfect
** [[Ultrapyth]], with generators around 713.7{{c}}.
|2L + 2s
 
| Diminished
=== Generator chain ===
|-
{{MOS genchain}}
|6th
|4L + 1s
|Major
|3L + 2s
|Minor
|-
| 7th
| 5L + 1s
| Major
|4L + 2s
|Minor
|-
|'''8th (octave)'''
|5L + 2s
| Perfect
|5L + 2s
|Perfect
|}
===Note names ===
Note names are identical to that of standard notation. Thus, the basic (12edo) gamut for 5L 2s is the following:


{{MOS gamut|Scale Signature=5L 2s}}
=== Warped diatonic scales ===
==Theory ==
Because of most listeners' familiarity with the 5L 2s diatonic scale, listeners may sometimes experience an effect like pareidolia, hearing 5L 2s even when it isn’t there.  
===Introduction to step sizes===<!-- The 5L 2s page already had an introduction to step sizes, but this may be worth moving to its own page. -->
:''Main article: [[Scale tree]] and [[TAMNAMS#Step ratio spectrum]]''
The familiar pattern of 5 whole steps and 2 half steps, commonly written as WWHWWWH for the major scale, has step sizes of 2 (whole step) and 1 (half step), producing [[12edo]]. This can be generalized into the form LLsLLLs, with whole-number sizes for the large steps and small steps, denoted as "L" and "s" respectively.


Different edos are produced by using different ratios of step sizes. A few examples are shown below.
A larger scale can be constructed so that it contains chains of 5L&nbsp;2s, but then breaks the pattern, exploiting that pareidolic effect to surprise and disorient the listener. Scales which have this effect are called [[warped diatonic]] scales.
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!Step ratio (L:s)
!Step pattern
!EDO
!Selected multiples
|-
|1:1
|1 1 1 1 1 1 1
|[[7edo]]
|[[14edo]], [[21edo]], etc.
|-
|4:3
| 4 4 3 4 4 4 3
|[[26edo]]
|
|-
|3:2
|3 3 2 3 3 3 2
|[[19edo]]
|[[38edo]]
|-
|5:3
|5 5 3 5 5 5 3
|[[31edo]]
|
|-
|2:1
|2 2 1 2 2 2 1
|[[12edo]] (standard tuning)
|[[24edo]], [[36edo]], etc.
|-
|5:2
|5 5 2 5 5 5 2
|[[29edo]]
|
|-
|3:1
|3 3 1 3 3 3 1
|[[17edo]]
|[[34edo]]
|-
|4:1
|4 4 1 4 4 4 1
|[[22edo]]
|
|-
|1:0
|1 1 0 1 1 1 0
|[[5edo]]
|[[10edo]], [[15edo]], etc.
|}Edos that are multiples of the examples above can be reached by entering non-simplified step ratios. For example, edos that are multiples of 12 are reached by using larger values whose ratio simplifies to 2:1, such as 4:2 for [[24edo]].


All step ratios lie on a spectrum from 1:1 to 1:0, referred to on the wiki as a scale tree. The step ratios 1:1 and 1:0 represent the limits for valid step ratios. A step ratio that approaches 1:1, where the large and small step are equal to one another, approaches [[7edo]], and a step ratio that approaches 1:0, where the small step "collapses" to zero, approaches [[5edo]].
=== Interval categories ===
''See [[5L&nbsp;2s/Interval categories]]''.


TAMNAMS has names for regions of this spectrum based on whether they are "soft" (between 1:1 and 2:1) or "hard" (between 2:1 and 1:0).
== Tuning ranges ==
===Temperament interpretations===
{{Todo|Verify|inline=1|text=Populate/verify tables}}
:''Main article: [[5L 2s/Temperaments]]''
5L 2s has several rank-2 temperament interpretations, such as:
*[[Meantone]], with generators around 696.2¢. This includes:
**[[Flattone]], with generators around 693.7¢.
*[[Schismic]], with generators around 702¢.
*[[Parapyth]], with generators around 704.7¢.
*[[Archy]], with generators around 709.3¢. This includes:
** Supra, with generators around 707.2¢
**Superpyth, with generators around 710.3¢
** Ultrapyth, with generators around 713.7¢.


==Tuning ranges==
=== Simple tunings ===
===Simple tunings===
[[17edo]] and [[19edo]] are the smallest edos that offer a greater variety of pitches than 12edo. Note that any enharmonic equivalences that 12edo has no longer hold for either 17edo or 19edo, as shown in the table below.
[[17edo]] and [[19edo]] are the smallest edos that offer a greater variety of pitches than 12edo. Note that any enharmonic equivalences that 12edo has no longer hold for either 17edo or 19edo, as shown in the table below.{{MOS degrees|Scale Signature=5L 2s|Step Ratio=2/1; 3/1; 3/2|Genchain Extend=7}}
{{MOS tunings|JI Ratios=Int Limit: 30; Complements Only: 1|Tolerance=20}}
===Parasoft tunings===
:''Main article: [[Flattone]]''
Parasoft tunings (4:3 to 3:2) correspond to flattone temperaments, characterized by flattened perfect 5ths ([[3/2]], flat of 702¢) to produce major 3rds that are flatter than [[5/4]] (386¢).


Edos include [[19edo]], [[26edo]], [[45edo]], and [[64edo]].{{MOS degrees|Scale Signature=5L 2s|Step Ratio=3/2; 4/3; 7/5; 10/7|Genchain Extend=0, 5}}
=== Ultrasoft tunings ===
===Hyposoft tunings ===
{{See also| Superflat }}
:''Main article: [[Meantone]]''
In this range, the major third is so flat that it can best be approximated by [[16/13]], tempering out [[1053/1024]].
Hyposoft tunings (3:2 to 2:1) correspond to meantone temperaments, characterized by flattened perfect 5ths (flat of 702¢) to produce diatonic major 3rds that approximate 5/4 (386¢).
{{MOS tunings|Step Ratios=Ultrasoft|JI Ratios=NONE}}
 
=== Parasoft tunings ===
{{See also| Flattone }}
 
Parasoft diatonic tunings (4:3 to 3:2) correspond to flattone temperaments, characterized by flattened perfect 5ths ([[3/2]], flat of 702{{c}}) to produce major 3rds that are flatter than [[5/4]] (386{{c}}).
 
Edos include [[19edo]], [[26edo]], [[45edo]], and [[64edo]].
{{MOS tunings|Step Ratios=4/3; 7/5; 10/7; 3/2|JI Ratios=Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.13; Int Limit: 27; Complements Only: 1; Tenney Height: 10|Tolerance=20}}
 
=== Hyposoft tunings ===
{{See also| Meantone }}
 
Hyposoft diatonic tunings (3:2 to 2:1) correspond to meantone temperaments, characterized by flattened perfect 5ths (flat of 702{{c}}) to produce diatonic major 3rds that approximate 5/4 (386{{c}}).
 
Edos include [[19edo]], [[31edo]], [[43edo]], and [[50edo]].
{{MOS tunings|Step Ratios=3/2; 5/3; 8/5; 7/4; 2/1|JI Ratios=Subgroup:2.3.5; Int Limit: 40; Tenney Height: 10|Tolerance=15}}
 
=== Hypohard tunings ===
: ''See also: [[Pythagorean tuning]] and [[Schismatic family #Schismatic aka helmholtz|schismatic temperament]]''


Edos include [[19edo]], [[31edo]], [[43edo]], and [[50edo]].{{MOS degrees|Scale Signature=5L 2s|Step Ratio=3/2; 5/3; 7/4; 8/5|Genchain Extend=0, 5}}
===Hypohard tunings===
:''Main article: [[Pythagorean tuning]] and [[Schismatic family#Schismatic aka Helmholtz|schismatic temperament]]''
The range of hypohard tunings can be divided into a minihard range (2:1 to 5:2) and quasihard range (5:2 to 3:1).
The range of hypohard tunings can be divided into a minihard range (2:1 to 5:2) and quasihard range (5:2 to 3:1).
==== Minihard tunings====
{{MOS tunings|Step Ratios=Hypohard|JI Ratios=NONE}}
Minihard tunings correspond to Pythagorean tuning and schismatic temperament, characterized by having a perfect 5th that is as close to just (701.96¢) as possible, resulting in a major 3rd of [[81/64]] (407¢).
 
==== Minihard tunings ====
Minihard diatonic tunings correspond to Pythagorean tuning and schismatic temperament, characterized by having a perfect 5th that is as close to just (701.96{{c}}) as possible, resulting in a major 3rd of [[81/64]] (407{{c}}).
 
Edos include [[41edo]] and [[53edo]].
{{MOS tunings|Step Ratios=2/1; 7/3; 5/2; 9/4|JI Ratios=Prime Limit:3; Int Limit: 1024|Tolerance=10}}


Edos include [[41edo]] and [[53edo]].{{MOS degrees|Scale Signature=5L 2s|Step Ratio=7/3; 9/4|Genchain Extend=0, 5}}
==== Quasihard tunings ====
==== Quasihard tunings ====
Quasihard tunings correspond to "neogothic" or "parapyth" systems whose perfect 5th is slightly sharper than just, resulting in major 3rds that are sharper than 81/64 and minor 3rds that are slightly flat of [[32/27]] (294¢).
Quasihard diatonic tunings correspond to "neogothic" or "parapyth" systems whose perfect 5th is slightly sharper than just, resulting in major 3rds that are sharper than 81/64 and minor 3rds that are slightly flat of [[32/27]] (294{{c}}).


Edos include [[17edo]], [[29edo]], and [[46edo]]. 17edo is considered to be on the sharper end of the neogothic spectrum, with a major 3rd that is more discordant than flatter neogothic tunings.{{MOS degrees|Scale Signature=5L 2s|Step Ratio=3/1; 5/2; 8/3|Genchain Extend=0, 5}}
Edos include [[17edo]], [[29edo]], and [[46edo]]. 17edo is considered to be on the sharper end of the neogothic spectrum, with a major 3rd that is more discordant than flatter neogothic tunings.
===Parahard and ultrahard tunings===
{{MOS tunings|Step Ratios=Quasihard|JI Ratios=Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13; Int Limit: 30; Complements Only: 1|Tolerance=15}}
:''Main article: [[Archy]]''
Parahard (3:1 to 4:1) and ultrahard tunings (4:1 to 1:0) correspond to archy systems, with perfect 5ths that are significantly sharper than than 702¢.


Edos include [[17edo]], [[22edo]], [[27edo]], and [[32edo]], among others.{{MOS degrees|Scale Signature=5L 2s|Step Ratio=3/1; 4/1; 5/1; 6/1|Genchain Extend=0, 5}}
=== Parahard and ultrahard tunings ===
==Modes==
{{See also| Archy }}
Diatonic modes have standard names from classical music theory:


{{MOS modes}}
Parahard (3:1 to 4:1) and ultrahard (4:1 to 1:0) diatonic tunings correspond to archy systems, with perfect 5ths that are significantly sharper than than 702{{c}}.
Each mode has the following scale degrees, reached by raising or lowering certain naturals by a chroma.
 
{| class="wikitable"
Edos include [[17edo]], [[22edo]], [[27edo]], and [[32edo]], among others.
! colspan="2" |Mode
{{MOS tunings|Step Ratios=3/1; 4/1; 5/1; 6/1|JI Ratios=Subgroup: 2.3.7 ; Int Limit: 80; Complements Only: 1|Tolerance=15}}
! colspan="8" |Scale degree (on C)
 
|-
== Scales ==
!UDP
=== Subset and superset scales ===
!Step pattern
5L&nbsp;2s has a parent scale of [[2L&nbsp;3s]], a pentatonic scale, meaning 2L&nbsp;3s is a subset. 5L&nbsp;2s also has two child scales, which are supersets of 5L&nbsp;2s:
!1st
* [[7L&nbsp;5s]], a chromatic scale produced using soft-of-basic step ratios.
!2nd
* [[5L&nbsp;7s]], a chromatic scale produced using hard-of-basic step ratios.
!3rd
12edo, the equalized form of both 7L&nbsp;5s and 5L&nbsp;7s, is also a superset of 5L&nbsp;2s.
!4th
!5th
!6th
!7th
!8th
|-
|<nowiki>6|0</nowiki>
|LLLsLLs
|Perfect (C)
|Major (D)
|Major (E)
|Augmented (F#)
|Perfect (G)
|Major (A)
|Major (B)
|Perfect (C)
|-
|<nowiki>5|1</nowiki>
|LLsLLLs
|Perfect (C)
|Major (D)
|Major (E)
|Perfect (F)
|Perfect (G)
|Major (A)
|Major (B)
|Perfect (C)
|-
|<nowiki>4|2</nowiki>
|LLsLLsL
|Perfect (C)
|Major (D)
|Major (E)
|Perfect (F)
|Perfect (G)
|Major (A)
|Minor (Bb)
|Perfect (C)
|-
|<nowiki>3|3</nowiki>
|LsLLLsL
|Perfect (C)
|Major (D)
|Minor (Eb)
|Perfect (F)
|Perfect (G)
|Major (A)
|Minor (Bb)
|Perfect (C)
|-
|<nowiki>2|4</nowiki>
|LsLLsLL
|Perfect (C)
|Major (D)
|Minor (Eb)
|Perfect (F)
|Perfect (G)
|Minor (Ab)
|Minor (Bb)
|Perfect (C)
|-
|<nowiki>1|5</nowiki>
|sLLLsLL
|Perfect (C)
|Minor (Db)
|Minor (Eb)
|Perfect (F)
|Perfect (G)
|Minor (Ab)
|Minor (Bb)
|Perfect (C)
|-
|<nowiki>0|6</nowiki>
|sLLsLLL
|Perfect (C)
|Minor (Db)
|Minor (Eb)
|Perfect (F)
|Diminished (Gb)
|Minor (Ab)
|Minor (Bb)
|Perfect (C)
|}
==Scales==
===Subset and superset scales===
5L 2s has a parent scale of [[2L 3s]], a pentatonic scale, meaning 2L 3s is a subset. 5L 2s also has the two child scales, which are supersets of 5L 2s:
*[[7L 5s]], a chromatic scale produced using soft-of-basic step ratios.
*[[5L 7s]], a chromatic scale produced using hard-of-basic step ratios.
12edo also contains 5L 2s as the equalized form of both 5L 7s and 7L 5s.
===MODMOS scales and muddles===
{{main| 5L 2s MODMOSes }} ''and [[5L 2s Muddles]]''


===Scala files===
=== MODMOS scales and muddles ===
*[[Meantone7]] – 19edo and 31edo tunings
{{Main|5L&nbsp;2s/MODMOSes|5L&nbsp;2s/Muddles}}
*[[Nestoria7]] – 171edo tuning
*[[Pythagorean7]] – Pythagorean tuning
*[[Garibaldi7]] – 94edo tuning
*[[Cotoneum7]] – 217edo tuning
*[[Pepperoni7]] – 271edo tuning
*[[Supra7]] – 56edo tuning
*[[Archy7]] – 472edo tuning


==Scale tree==
=== Scala files ===
{{Scale tree|depth=6|Comments=7/5:[[Flattone]] is in this region;21/13:[[Golden meantone]] (696.2145¢);5/3:[[Meantone]] is in this region;2/1:(Generators smaller than this are proper);9/4:The generator closest to a just [[3/2]] for EDOs less than 200;16/7:[[Garibaldi]] / [[Cassandra]];21/8:Golden neogothic (704.0956¢);8/3:[[Neogothic]] is in this region;4/1:[[Archy]] is in this region}}
* [[Meantone7]] – 19edo and 31edo tunings
* [[Nestoria7]] – 171edo tuning
* [[Pythagorean7]] – Pythagorean tuning
* [[Garibaldi7]] – 94edo tuning
* [[Cotoneum7]] – 217edo tuning
* [[Edson7]] – 29edo tuning
* [[Pepperoni7]] – 271edo tuning
* [[Supra7]] – 56edo tuning
* [[Archy7]] – 49edo tuning
 
== Scale tree ==
{{MOS tuning spectrum
| Depth = 6
| 7/5 = [[Flattone]] region
| 21/13 = [[Golden meantone]] (696.214{{c}})
| 5/3 = [[Meantone]] region
| 9/4 = [[Pythagorean tuning]] (701.955{{c}})
| 16/7 = [[Garibaldi]] / [[cassandra]]
| 5/2 = [[Dominant (temperament)|Dominant]] region
| 21/8 = Golden neogothic (704.096{{c}})
| 8/3 = [[Neogothic]] region
| 7/2 = [[Quasisuper]] region
| 9/2 = [[Superpyth]] region
| 11/2 = [[Quasiultra]] region
| 7/1 = [[Ultrapyth]] region
}}


=== Step ratio diagram ===
=== Step ratio diagram ===
[[File:5L2s.jpg|alt=5L2s.jpg|5L2s.jpg]]
[[File:5L2s.jpg|alt=5L2s.jpg|5L2s.jpg]]


==See also==
== See also ==
* [[Diatonic functional harmony]]
* [[Diatonic]] (disambiguation page)


* [[Diatonic functional harmony]]
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[[Category:7-tone scales]]