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: That's interesting. I had the opposite experience. Where did you learn about the name? – [[User:Sintel|Sintel🎏]] ([[User_talk:Sintel|talk]]) 20:11, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

:: I don't know. I guess it's because my basic conception of the temperament was in the 2.3.7 limit, and the full 7-limit extension was just an... extra thing defined for the purpose of having a full 7-limit version, basically, since you're probably not interested in the 5-limit in the first place if you're using (a strong extension of) archy.

== Tuning spectrum error ==

I get why FloraC reverted the tuning spectrum changes, but isn't the diamond monotone still wrong? Tunings flatter than 22edo swap 7/5 and 10/7.--[[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 22:02, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

: You're right. Fixed. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 11:38, 7 October 2025 (UTC)

== Chords page ==

Many temperaments like [[meantone]], [[orwell]], and [[miracle]] have pages listing all of their chords, most often in the [[11-limit]]. This temperament is important and needs to have its own chords page as well. As of now, I have made a draft at [[User:Overthink/Chords of superpyth]].--[[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 17:05, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

== Chromatic alterations ==

In the chords section, it says:<blockquote>1–9/8–9/7–3/2 chord may be altered to 1–9/8–11/8–3/2 (8:9:11:12), which is impressive-sounding, resembling a sus4 but with even more tension; it resolves quite nicely to 1–9/8–9/7–3/2.</blockquote>

The alteration from 9/7 to 11/8 is +16 - (+4) = +12 [[generator]]s. The page should clarify what it means by a "chromatic" alteration. This was copied from the page for [[17edo]], where the chromatic semitone is 2 steps. The chromatic semitone is +7 generators, which would alter the chord to 1–9/8–7/5–3/2. In superpyth the most important interval for alterations is actually the limma, representing [[256/243]], [[28/27]], [[36/35]], and [[81/80]]. Here, 1–9/8–9/7–3/2 still can't be altered to 1–9/8–11/8–3/2, but can instead be altered to 1–9/8–5/4–3/2 or 1–10/9–9/7–3/2. The info about chromatic alterations should make sense in superpyth, not 17edo.

Also, the 6:7:8 paragraph should be expanded to include larger chords like [[28:36:42:49]].

--[[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 03:28, 3 January 2026 (UTC)

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 : That's interesting. I had the opposite experience. Where did you learn about the name? – [[User:Sintel|Sintel🎏]] ([[User_talk:Sintel|talk]]) 20:11, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
+:: I don't know. I guess it's because my basic conception of the temperament was in the 2.3.7 limit, and the full 7-limit extension was just an... extra thing defined for the purpose of having a full 7-limit version, basically, since you're probably not interested in the 5-limit in the first place if you're using (a strong extension of) archy.
+== Tuning spectrum error ==
+I get why FloraC reverted the tuning spectrum changes, but isn't the diamond monotone still wrong? Tunings flatter than 22edo swap 7/5 and 10/7.--[[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 22:02, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
+: You're right. Fixed. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 11:38, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
+== Chords page ==
+Many temperaments like [[meantone]], [[orwell]], and [[miracle]] have pages listing all of their chords, most often in the [[11-limit]]. This temperament is important and needs to have its own chords page as well. As of now, I have made a draft at [[User:Overthink/Chords of superpyth]].--[[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 17:05, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
+== Chromatic alterations ==
+In the chords section, it says:<blockquote>1–9/8–9/7–3/2 chord may be altered to 1–9/8–11/8–3/2 (8:9:11:12), which is impressive-sounding, resembling a sus4 but with even more tension; it resolves quite nicely to 1–9/8–9/7–3/2.</blockquote>
+The alteration from 9/7 to 11/8 is +16 - (+4) = +12 [[generator]]s. The page should clarify what it means by a "chromatic" alteration. This was copied from the page for [[17edo]], where the chromatic semitone is 2 steps. The chromatic semitone is +7 generators, which would alter the chord to 1–9/8–7/5–3/2. In superpyth the most important interval for alterations is actually the limma, representing [[256/243]], [[28/27]], [[36/35]], and [[81/80]]. Here, 1–9/8–9/7–3/2 still can't be altered to 1–9/8–11/8–3/2, but can instead be altered to 1–9/8–5/4–3/2 or 1–10/9–9/7–3/2. The info about chromatic alterations should make sense in superpyth, not 17edo.
+Also, the 6:7:8 paragraph should be expanded to include larger chords like [[28:36:42:49]].
+--[[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 03:28, 3 January 2026 (UTC)