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!1st
!1st
!2
!2
|28/27
|[[28/27]]
|56/54
|56/54
|63.0
|63.0
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!2nd
!2nd
!3
!3
|19/18
|[[19/18]]
|57/54
|57/54
|93.6
|93.6
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!3rd
!3rd
!4
!4
|29/27
|[[29/27]]
|58/54
|58/54
|123.7
|123.7
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!4th
!4th
!8
!8
|31/27
|[[31/27]]
|62/54
|62/54
|239.2
|239.2
|8\41 + 5.0¢
|8\41 + 5.0¢
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These valves make the subharmonic series 15-note fragment 71::54, with 70 and 55 missing. Adjusting the cents of each valve slightly will improve the tuning, but not by much.   
These valves make the subharmonic series 15-note fragment 71::54, with 70 and 55 missing. Slightly adjusting the cents of each valve may slightly improve the intonation.   


In the chart below, ○ is a closed/released valve and ● is an open/depressed valve. The fingering chart assumes the valves run in order with 1st = 2\41, 2nd = 3\41, 3rd = 4\41 and 4th = 8\41. The largest errors are '''bolded'''. Notes are for a Bb trumpet. Many notes have alternate fingerings. Notes in parentheses have an alternate fingering with markedly better intonation.   
In the chart below, ○ is a closed/released valve and ● is an open/depressed valve. The fingering chart assumes the valves run in order with 1st = 2\41, 2nd = 3\41, 3rd = 4\41 and 4th = 8\41. The largest errors are '''bolded'''. Notes are for a Bb trumpet. Many notes have alternate fingerings. Notes in parentheses have an alternate fingering with markedly better intonation.   
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Note that 69/54 or 23/18 is almost exactly midway between 15\41 and 14\41. And 71/54 is 17\41 - 23.7¢, which is actually 16\41 + 5.5¢. Thus 2+3+4+8 is actually 16! This is fortuitous because 4/3 is 17\41 and 16 edosteps neatly fills the gap between the 3rd and 4th harmonics.
Note that 69/54 or 23/18 is almost exactly midway between 15\41 and 14\41. And 71/54 is 17\41 - 23.7¢, which is actually 16\41 + 5.5¢. Thus 2+3+4+8 is actually 16! This is fortuitous because 4/3 is 17\41 and 16 edosteps neatly fills the gap between the 3rd and 4th harmonics.


The error from 41edo is the sum of the valve ratio's error and the harmonic's error. For example, 28/27 is 4.4¢ flat of 2\41 and the 5th harmonic is 5.8¢ sharp of 13\41, so the error for C# is 1.4¢.
The error from 41edo is the sum of the valve ratio's error and the harmonic's error. For example, 28/27 is 4.4¢ flat of 2\41 and the 5th harmonic is 5.8¢ sharp of 13\41, so the error for the 5th harmonic's C# is 1.4¢.


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Here are the full 2 octaves produced by a Bb trumpet. Note that the bolded notes for the two largest errors often have alternative fingerings.


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Here are the full 2 octaves produced by a Bb trumpet. The low vF and the high vC are missing.
 


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