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| Title = Myna
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| Subgroups = 2.3.5.7, 2.3.5.7.11
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| Comma basis = [[126/125]], [[1728/1715]] (7-limit); <br> [[126/125]], [[176/175]], [[243/242]] (11-limit)
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| Edo join 1 = 27 | Edo join 2 = 31
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| Generator = 6/5 | Generator tuning = 310.1 | Optimization method = POTE
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| MOS scales = [[3L 1s]], [[4L 3s]], [[4L 7s]], ... [[4L 23s]], [[27L 4s]]
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">See [[Starling temperaments#Myna%20temperament]].
| Mapping = 1; 10 9 7 25
| Pergen = (P8, ccP5/10)
| Odd limit 1 = 7 | Mistuning 1 = ? | Complexity 1 = 23
| Odd limit 2 = (2.3.5.7.11) 21 | Mistuning 2 = ? | Complexity 2 = 58
}}


Note: "myna" is pronounced /&lt;span style="font-size: 120%;"&gt;&lt;span class="IPA"&gt;ˈ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;ma&lt;span class="IPA"&gt;ɪ&lt;/span&gt;n&lt;span class="IPA"&gt;ə/, like [[@http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myna|the bird]], but is also as a pun on "minor".&lt;/span&gt;
'''Myna''' is a [[rank-2]] [[temperament]] that is [[generator|generated]] by a flattened minor third of [[6/5]], so that seven generators reach [[7/4]], nine reach [[5/4]] and ten reach [[3/2]]. It can be thought of in terms of a series of equidistances between thirds, that is, making [[8/7]] - [[7/6]] - 6/5 - [[49/40]] - [[5/4]] - [[9/7]] - [[21/16]] all equidistant (the distances between which are [[36/35]], [[49/48]], and [[50/49]]), or otherwise tuning the pental thirds outwards so that the chroma between them ([[25/24]]) is twice the size of the interval between the pental and septimal thirds, 36/35. This is one of two major options for how the thirds are organized in [[EDO]]s of medium size - the other one being [[keemic temperaments]], such as [[superkleismic]] and [[magic]], where the gap between 6/5 and 5/4 is compressed to equal that between 7/6 and 6/5 instead of widened to equal twice it. Both have their characteristic sets of damage, but myna leaves space for an exact neutral third in between 6/5 and 5/4; [[11-limit]] myna then arises from equating this neutral third to [[11/9]] and 13-limit myna adds the interpretation of [[16/13]] to it as well.


=Spectrum of Myna Tunings by Eigenmonzos=  
It can be described as the 27e & 31 temperament; [[27edo]] and [[31edo]] represent natural endpoints of its tuning range, and 27+31 = [[58edo]] and 58+31 = [[89edo]] are very good tunings. In terms of [[commas]], the most characteristic comma that myna [[tempering out|tempers out]] is [[126/125]], the starling comma, so that two generators reach [[10/7]] and four reach the distinctive 36/35[[~]]50/49 chroma. Additionally, {{S|6/S7}} = [[1728/1715]], the orwellisma, is tempered out to equate 36/35 with 49/48, and so is [[2401/2400]], the breedsma, to equate 49/48 and 50/49 (and find a neutral third at 49/40). In the 11-limit, [[176/175]], [[243/242]], [[441/440]], and [[540/539]] are tempered out; in the 13-limit, [[144/143]] and [[352/351]] are additionally tempered out.
||~ Eigenmonzo ||~ Minor Third ||
|| 7/5 || 308.744 ||
|| 11/9 || 309.482 ||
|| 5/4 || 309.590 ||
|| 8\31 || 309.677 ||
|| 8/7 || 309.832 ||
|| 16/15 || 309.909 ||
|| 15/14 || 309.953 ||
|| 12/11 || 309.958 ||
|| 11/8 || 310.053 ||
|| 23\89 || 310.112 ||
|| 14/11 || 310.138 ||
|| 4/3 || 310.196 (5, 7, 9 and 11 limit minimax; 5, 7, 11 and 13 limit POTT) ||
|| 11/10 || 310.313 ||
|| 15/13 || 310.323 (15 limit minimax) ||
|| 15\58 || 310.345 ||
|| 13/11 || 310.360 (13 limit minimax) ||
|| 9/7 || 310.391 ||
|| 13/10 || 310.413 ||
|| 15/11 || 310.508 ||
|| 18/13 || 310.535 ||
|| 22\85 || 310.588 ||
|| 10/9 || 310.691 ||
|| 14/13 || 310.692 ||
|| 13/12 || 310.762 ||
|| 7/6 || 311.043 ||
|| 7\27 || 311.111 ||
|| 16/13 || 311.894 ||
|| 6/5 || 315.641 ||</pre></div>
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Myna&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;See &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Starling%20temperaments#Myna%20temperament"&gt;Starling temperaments&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note: &amp;quot;myna&amp;quot; is pronounced /&lt;span style="font-size: 120%;"&gt;&lt;span class="IPA"&gt;ˈ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;ma&lt;span class="IPA"&gt;ɪ&lt;/span&gt;n&lt;span class="IPA"&gt;ə/, like &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myna" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"&gt;the bird&lt;/a&gt;, but is also as a pun on &amp;quot;minor&amp;quot;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h1 id="toc0"&gt;&lt;a name="Spectrum of Myna Tunings by Eigenmonzos"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 --&gt;Spectrum of Myna Tunings by Eigenmonzos&lt;/h1&gt;


&lt;table class="wiki_table"&gt;
Note: "myna" is pronounced /'maɪnə/, like [[Wikipedia:Myna|the bird]], but is also as a pun on "minor".  
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;th&gt;Eigenmonzo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/th&gt;
        &lt;th&gt;Minor Third&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/th&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;7/5&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;308.744&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;11/9&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;309.482&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;5/4&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;309.590&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;8\31&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;309.677&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;8/7&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;309.832&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;16/15&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;309.909&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;15/14&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;309.953&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;12/11&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;309.958&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;11/8&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;310.053&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;23\89&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;310.112&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;14/11&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;310.138&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;4/3&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;310.196 (5, 7, 9 and 11 limit minimax; 5, 7, 11 and 13 limit POTT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;11/10&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;310.313&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;15/13&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;310.323 (15 limit minimax)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;15\58&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;310.345&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;13/11&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;310.360 (13 limit minimax)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;9/7&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;310.391&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;13/10&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;310.413&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;15/11&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;310.508&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;18/13&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;310.535&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;22\85&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;310.588&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;10/9&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;310.691&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;14/13&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;310.692&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;13/12&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;310.762&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;7/6&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;311.043&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;7\27&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;311.111&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;16/13&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;311.894&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;6/5&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;315.641&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;


&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
See [[Starling temperaments #Myna]] for more technical data.
 
== Interval chain ==
In the following table, prime harmonics are in '''bold'''.
 
{| class="wikitable center-1 right-2"
|-
! &#35;
! Cents*
! Approximate Ratios
|-
| 0
| 0.0
| '''1/1'''
|-
| 1
| 310.3
| 6/5
|-
| 2
| 620.6
| 10/7
|-
| 3
| 930.8
| 12/7
|-
| 4
| 41.1
| 36/35, 40/39, 45/44, 49/48, 50/49
|-
| 5
| 351.4
| 11/9, '''16/13'''
|-
| 6
| 661.7
| 22/15, 35/24
|-
| 7
| 971.9
| '''7/4'''
|-
| 8
| 82.2
| 21/20, 22/21, 25/24
|-
| 9
| 392.5
| '''5/4'''
|-
| 10
| 702.8
| '''3/2'''
|-
| 11
| 1013.0
| 9/5
|-
| 12
| 123.3
| 14/13, 15/14, 27/25
|-
| 13
| 433.6
| 9/7
|-
| 14
| 743.9
| 20/13
|-
| 15
| 1054.1
| 11/6, 24/13
|-
| 16
| 164.4
| 11/10
|-
| 17
| 474.7
| 21/16
|-
| 18
| 785.0
| 11/7
|-
| 19
| 1095.3
| 15/8
|-
| 20
| 205.5
| 9/8
|-
| 21
| 515.8
| 27/20
|-
| 22
| 826.1
| 21/13
|-
| 23
| 1136.4
| 27/14
|-
| 24
| 246.6
| 15/13
|-
| 25
| 556.9
| '''11/8''', 18/13
|-
| 26
| 867.1
| 33/20
|-
| 27
| 1177.5
| 55/28, 63/32, 77/39, 99/50
|}
<nowiki />* In 13-limit POTE tuning
 
== Chords ==
: ''Main article: [[Chords of myna]] and [[Chords of tridecimal myna]]''
 
== Scales ==
; MOS scales
* [[Myna7]]
* [[Myna11]]
* [[Myna15]]
 
; Transversal scales
* [[Myna19trans]]
* [[Myna19trans37]]
* [[Myna23trans]]
* [[Myna23trans37]]
* [[Myna27trans]]
* [[Myna27trans37]]
 
== Tuning spectrum ==
{| class="wikitable center-all"
|-
! ET<br />generator
! [[Eigenmonzo|Eigenmonzo<br />(unchanged interval)]])
! Minor<br />third (¢)
! Comments
|-
|
| 7/5
| 308.744
|
|-
|
| 11/9
| 309.482
|
|-
|
| 5/4
| 309.590
|
|-
| 8\31
|
| 309.677
|
|-
|
| 8/7
| 309.832
|
|-
|
| 16/15
| 309.909
|
|-
|
| 15/14
| 309.953
|
|-
|
| 12/11
| 309.958
|
|-
|
| 11/8
| 310.053
|
|-
| 23\89
|
| 310.112
|
|-
|
| 14/11
| 310.138
|
|-
|
| 4/3
| 310.196
| 5-, 7-, 9- and 11-odd-imit minimax; <br>5-, 7-, 11- and 13-limit POTT
|-
|
| 11/10
| 310.313
|
|-
|
| 15/13
| 310.323
| 15-odd-limit minimax
|-
| 15\58
|
| 310.345
|
|-
|
| 13/11
| 310.360
| 13-odd-limit minimax
|-
|
| 9/7
| 310.391
|
|-
|
| 13/10
| 310.413
|
|-
|
| 15/11
| 310.508
|
|-
|
| 18/13
| 310.535
|
|-
| 22\85
|
| 310.588
|
|-
|
| 10/9
| 310.691
|
|-
|
| 14/13
| 310.692
|
|-
|
| 13/12
| 310.762
|
|-
|
| 7/6
| 311.043
|
|-
| 7\27
|
| 311.111
|
|-
|
| 16/13
| 311.894
|
|-
|
| 6/5
| 315.641
|
|}
 
== Music ==
* ''[http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/micro/gene_ward_smith/Others/Igs/89versionof23Myna.mp3 Myna Music]'' by [[Igliashon Jones]]
 
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