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These temper out the keema, {{monzo| -5 -3 3 1 }} = [[875/864]] = {{S|5/S6}}, whose fundamental equivalence entails that [[6/5]] is sharpened so that it stacks three times to reach [[7/4]], and the interval between 6/5 and [[5/4]] is compressed so that [[7/6]] - 6/5 - 5/4 - [[9/7]] are set equidistant from each other. As the [[Keemic family#Undecimal supermagic|canonical extension]] of rank-3 keemic to the [[11-limit]] tempers out the commas [[100/99]] and [[385/384]] (whereby ([[6/5]])<sup>2</sup> is identified with [[16/11]]), this provides a clean way to extend the various keemic temperaments to the 11-limit as well.
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These temper out the keema, |-5 -3 3 1&gt; = 875/864. Keemic temperaments include magic, keemun, flattone, porcupine, doublewide, superkleismic, sycamore and quasitemp.
Full [[7-limit]] keemic temperaments discussed elsewhere are:
* [[Keemun]] (+49/48) → [[Kleismic family #Keemun|Kleismic family]]
* ''[[Doublewide]]'' (+50/49) → [[Jubilismic clan #Doublewide|Jubilismic clan]]
* [[Porcupine]] (+64/63) → [[Porcupine family #Septimal porcupine|Porcupine family]]
* [[Flattone]] (+81/80) → [[Meantone family #Flattone|Meantone family]]
* [[Magic]] (+225/224) → [[Magic family #Septimal magic|Magic family]]
* ''[[Sycamore]]'' (+686/675) → [[Sycamore family #Septimal sycamore|Sycamore family]]
* [[Superkleismic]] (+1029/1024) → [[Gamelismic clan #Superkleismic|Gamelismic clan]]
* ''[[Undeka]]'' (+3200/3087) → [[11th-octave temperaments #Undeka|11th-octave temperaments]]


=Quasitemp=
Discussed below are quasitemp, chromo, barbad, hyperkleismic, and sevond.
Comma: 6103515625/5804752896


POTE generator: ~3125/2592 = 292.702
== Quasitemp ==
: ''For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Quasitemp]].''


Map: [&lt;1 5 5|, &lt;0 -14 -11|]
Quasitemp is a full 7-limit strong extension of [[gariberttet]], the 2.5/3.7/3 subgroup temperament defined by tempering out [[3125/3087]]. In gariberttet, three generators reach [[5/3]] and five reach [[7/3]], so that the generator itself has the interpretation of [[25/21]] (which is equated to [[13/11]] in the 13-limit extension). This implies that 3:5:7 and 5:6:7 chords are reached rather quickly. In quasitemp, tempering out 875/864 entails that [[8/7]] is found after 9 generators, from which the mappings of 3 and 5 follow.
EDOs: 37, 41
Badness: 0.7678


==7-limit==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
Commas: 875/854, 2401/2400


POTE generator ~25/21 = 292.710
[[Comma list]]: 875/864, 2401/2400


Map: [&lt;1 5 5 5|, &lt;0 -14 -11 -9|]
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 5 5 5 | 0 -14 -11 -9 }}
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;14 11 9 -15 -25 -10||
EDOs: 37, 41
Badness: 0.0603


==11-limit==
: Mapping generators: ~2, ~25/21
Commas: 100/99, 385/384, 1375/1372


POTE generator: ~25/21 = 292.547
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~25/21 = 292.710


Map: [&lt;1 5 5 5 2|, &lt;0 -14 -11 -9 6|]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 4, 37, 41 }}
EDOs: 37, 41, 119, 160c, 201ce
Badness: 0.0432


==Quato==
[[Badness]]: 0.060269
Commas: 243/242, 441/440, 625/616


POTE generator: ~25/21 = 292.851
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Map: [&lt;1 5 5 5 12|, &lt;0 -14 -11 -9 -35|]
Comma list: 100/99, 385/384, 1375/1372
EDOs: 41, 127cd, 168cd
Badness: 0.0412


===13-limit===
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 5 5 5 2 | 0 -14 -11 -9 6 }}
Commas: 105/104, 243/242, 275/273, 325/324


POTE generator: ~13/11 = 292.928
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~25/21 = 292.547


Map: [&lt;1 5 5 5 12 12|, &lt;0 -14 -11 -9 -35 -34|]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 4, 37, 41, 119 }}
EDOs: 41, 86ce, 127cd
 
Badness: 0.0301
Badness: 0.043209
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==== 13-limit ====
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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
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Comma list: 100/99, 196/195, 275/273, 385/384
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 5 5 5 2 2 | 0 -14 -11 -9 6 7 }}
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Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~13/11 = 292.457
These temper out the keema, |-5 -3 3 1&amp;gt; = 875/864. Keemic temperaments include magic, keemun, flattone, porcupine, doublewide, superkleismic, sycamore and quasitemp.&lt;br /&gt;
 
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 4, 37, 41, 78, 119f }}
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Comma: 6103515625/5804752896&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.032913
&lt;br /&gt;
 
POTE generator: ~3125/2592 = 292.702&lt;br /&gt;
=== Quato ===
&lt;br /&gt;
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Map: [&amp;lt;1 5 5|, &amp;lt;0 -14 -11|]&lt;br /&gt;
 
EDOs: 37, 41&lt;br /&gt;
Comma list: 243/242, 441/440, 625/616
Badness: 0.7678&lt;br /&gt;
 
&lt;br /&gt;
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 5 5 5 12 | 0 -14 -11 -9 -35 }}
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Commas: 875/854, 2401/2400&lt;br /&gt;
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~25/21 = 292.851
&lt;br /&gt;
 
POTE generator ~25/21 = 292.710&lt;br /&gt;
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 41, 127cd, 168cd }}
&lt;br /&gt;
 
Map: [&amp;lt;1 5 5 5|, &amp;lt;0 -14 -11 -9|]&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.041170
Wedgie: &amp;lt;&amp;lt;14 11 9 -15 -25 -10||&lt;br /&gt;
 
EDOs: 37, 41&lt;br /&gt;
==== 13-limit ====
Badness: 0.0603&lt;br /&gt;
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
&lt;br /&gt;
 
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Comma list: 105/104, 243/242, 275/273, 325/324
Commas: 100/99, 385/384, 1375/1372&lt;br /&gt;
 
&lt;br /&gt;
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 5 5 5 12 12 | 0 -14 -11 -9 -35 -34 }}
POTE generator: ~25/21 = 292.547&lt;br /&gt;
 
&lt;br /&gt;
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~13/11 = 292.928
Map: [&amp;lt;1 5 5 5 2|, &amp;lt;0 -14 -11 -9 6|]&lt;br /&gt;
 
EDOs: 37, 41, 119, 160c, 201ce&lt;br /&gt;
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 41, 86ce, 127cd }}
Badness: 0.0432&lt;br /&gt;
 
&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.030081
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Commas: 243/242, 441/440, 625/616&lt;br /&gt;
== Chromo ==
&lt;br /&gt;
: ''For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Chromo]].''
POTE generator: ~25/21 = 292.851&lt;br /&gt;
Chromo represents the [[13edf]] chain as a rank-2 temperament, with [[6/5]] and [[5/4]] mapped to 6 and 7 steps, respectively. Since the difference of those two intervals is abbreviated considerably from just, keemic provides the most meaningful 7-limit extension (setting [[7/6]], 6/5, 5/4, [[9/7]] equidistant) so that the temperament then approximates the [[4:5:6:7]] tetrad with 0:7:13:18 generator steps.
&lt;br /&gt;
 
Map: [&amp;lt;1 5 5 5 12|, &amp;lt;0 -14 -11 -9 -35|]&lt;br /&gt;
Note that if one allows a more complex mapping for prime 7 and wants a larger prime limit, one may prefer [[escapade]].
EDOs: 41, 127cd, 168cd&lt;br /&gt;
 
Badness: 0.0412&lt;br /&gt;
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
&lt;br /&gt;
 
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[[Comma list]]: 875/864, 2430/2401
Commas: 105/104, 243/242, 275/273, 325/324&lt;br /&gt;
 
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 2 2 | 0 13 7 18 }}
POTE generator: ~13/11 = 292.928&lt;br /&gt;
 
&lt;br /&gt;
: Mapping generators: ~2, ~25/24
Map: [&amp;lt;1 5 5 5 12 12|, &amp;lt;0 -14 -11 -9 -35 -34|]&lt;br /&gt;
 
EDOs: 41, 86ce, 127cd&lt;br /&gt;
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~25/24 = 53.816
Badness: 0.0301&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 22, 45, 67c }}
 
[[Badness]]: 0.090769
 
== Barbad ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
 
[[Comma list]]: 875/864, 16875/16807
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 9 7 11 | 0 -19 -12 -21 }}
 
: Mapping generators: ~2, ~98/75
 
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~98/75 = 468.331
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 18, 23d, 41 }}
 
[[Badness]]: 0.110448
 
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
Comma list: 245/242, 540/539, 625/616
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 9 7 11 14 | 0 -19 -12 -21 -27 }}
 
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~98/75 = 468.367
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 18e, 23de, 41, 228ccdd }}
 
Badness: 0.050105
 
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 144/143, 196/195, 245/242, 275/273
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 9 7 11 14 8 | 0 -19 -12 -21 -27 -11 }}
 
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~13/10 = 468.270
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 18e, 23de, 41 }}
 
Badness: 0.039183
 
== Hyperkleismic ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
 
[[Comma list]]: 875/864, 51200/50421
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -3 -2 2 | 0 17 16 3 }}
 
: Mapping generators: ~2, ~6/5
 
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~6/5 = 323.780
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 26, 37, 63 }}
 
[[Badness]]: 0.157830
 
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
Comma list: 100/99, 385/384, 2420/2401
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -3 -2 2 4 | 0 17 16 3 -2}}
 
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~6/5 = 323.796
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 26, 37, 63 }}
 
Badness: 0.065356
 
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 100/99, 169/168, 275/273, 385/384
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -3 -2 2 4 1 | 0 17 16 3 -2 10 }}
 
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~6/5 = 323.790
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 26, 37, 63 }}
 
Badness: 0.035724
 
== Sevond ==
10/9 is tempered to be exactly 1\7 of an octave. Therefore 3/2 is 1 generator sharp of a 7edo step and 5/4 is 2 generators sharp.
 
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
 
[[Comma list]]: 875/864, 327680/321489
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 7 0 -6 53 | 0 1 2 -3 }}
 
: Mapping generators: ~10/9, ~3
 
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~10/9 = 1\7, ~3/2 = 705.613
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 56, 63, 119 }}
 
[[Badness]]: 0.206592
 
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
Comma list: 100/99, 385/384, 6655/6561
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 7 0 -6 53 2 | 0 1 2 -3 2 }}
 
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~10/9 = 1\7, ~3/2 = 705.518
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 56, 63, 119 }}
 
Badness: 0.070437
 
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 100/99, 169/168, 352/351, 385/384
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 7 0 -6 53 2 37 | 0 1 2 -3 2 -1 }}
 
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~10/9 = 1\7, ~3/2 = 705.344
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 56, 63, 119 }}
 
Badness: 0.041238
 
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