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The '''ragismic family''' of temperaments are rank-3 microtemperaments which temper out [[4375/4374]].
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">Comma: 4375/4374


7-limit minimax
Temperaments discussed elsewhere include:
[|1 0 0 0&gt;, |-1/7 0 4/7 1/7&gt;,
* ''[[Sensigh]]'' → [[Sensamagic family #Sensigh|Sensamagic family]]
|0 0 1 0&gt;, |0 0 0 1&gt;]
* ''[[Catakleismoid]]'' → [[Marvel family #Catakleismoid|Marvel family]]
Eigenmonzos: 2, 5, 7
* ''[[Ennealimmic]]'' → [[Breed family #Ennealimmic|Breed family]]


9-limit minimax
Considered below are beyla, ulmo, thor, heimdall, bragi, and vidar.
||1 0 0 0&gt;, |0 1 0 0&gt;,  
|1/5 7/5 1/5 -1/5&gt;, |1/5 7/5 -4/5 4/5&gt;]
Eigenmonzos: 2, 3, 7/5


Map: [&lt;1 0 0 1|, &lt;0 1 0 7|, &lt;0 0 1 -4|]
== Ragismic ==
Generators: 2, 3, 5
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
Edos: 7, 19, 26, 27, 45, 46, 53, 65, 72, 80, 91, 99, 171, 270, 441, 612, 935, 1106, 1277, 1376, 1547, 1718, 1889, 2923, 3166, 3436, 3877, 3535, 4390, 5496, 5937, 6450, 9058


==11 limit children==
[[Comma list]]: [[4375/4374]]


===Thor===
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 1 | 0 1 0 7 | 0 0 1 -4 }}
Commas: 4375/4374, 3025/3024


Minimax tuning
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~5
[|1 0 0 0 0&gt;, |3/4 0 1/2 1/2 -1/2&gt;,  
|25/16 0 7/8 5/8 -7/8&gt;, |0 0 0 1 0&gt;,
|25/16 0 -1/8 5/8 1/8&gt;]
Eigenmonzos: 2, 11/10, 8/7


Map: [&lt;2 0 0 2 5|, &lt;0 1 0 7 5|, &lt;0 0 1 -4 -3|]
[[Mapping to lattice]]: [{{val| 0 -1 -1 -3 }}, {{val| 0 -1 -2 1 }}]
Generators: 99/70, 3, 5


13-limit
Lattice basis:
: 10/9 length = 0.789, 6/5 length = 0.921
: Angle (10/9, 6/5) = 105.299°


====Donar====
[[Minimax tuning]]:
Commas: 4375/4374, 3025/3024, 4225/4224
* [[7-odd-limit]] [[Eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.5.7
* [[9-odd-limit]] [[Eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.3.7/5


13-limit
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, 27, 45, 46, 53, 72, 99, 171, 441, 612, 935, 1106, 1277, 1547, 1718, 4983, 6701, 8419, 17279c }}
||1 0 0 0 0 0&gt;, |3/4 0 1/2 1/2 -1/2 0&gt;,  
|25/16 0 7/8 5/8 -7/8 0&gt;, |0 0 0 1 0 0&gt;,  
|25/16 0 -1/8 5/8 1/8 0&gt;,  
|99/32 0 -11/16 -1/16 11/16 0&gt;]
Eigenmonzos: 2, 11/10, 8/7


15-limit minimax
[[Projection pair]]: ~7 = ~4374/625
[|1 0 0 0 0 0&gt;, |1/2 1/3 1/3 1/3 -1/3 0&gt;,
|9/8 7/12 7/12 1/3 -7/12 0&gt;, |0 0 0 1 0 0&gt;,
|13/8 -1/12 -1/12 2/3 1/12 0&gt;,
|55/16 -11/24 -11/24 1/6 11/24 0&gt;]
Eigenmonzos: 2, 8/7, 15/11


Lattice basis: 44/39 length = 0.3480 6/5 length = 0.7828
Scales: [[Ragismic19]], [[Ragismic chromatic]]
Angle(44/39, 6/5) = 85.3977
Map to lattice: [&lt;0 2 2 6 4 1|, &lt;0 -1 -2 1 1 2|]


Map: [&lt;2 0 1 -2 2 7|, &lt;0 1 0 7 5 3|, &lt;0 0 2 -8 -6 -5|]
== Beyla ==
Generators: 99/70, 3, 220/117
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
Edos: 46, 80, 92, 126, 144, 178, 190, 224, 494, 684, 954, 1178, 1942, 3120, 3390


====Thunor====
[[Comma list]]: 385/384, 4375/4374
Commas: 4375/4374, 3025/3024, 1716/1715


13 and 15 limit minimax
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 1 6 | 0 1 0 7 -6 | 0 0 1 -4 3 }}
[|1 0 0 0 0 0&gt;, |7/10 4/5 0 -2/5 0 1/5&gt;,
|9/8 3/2 0 -3/4 0 1/4&gt;, |7/5 -2/5 0 1/5 0 2/5&gt;, |21/8 -1/2 0 1/4 0 1/4&gt;, |0 0 0 0 0 1&gt;]
Eigenmonzos: 2, 16/13, 9/7


Lattice basis: 10/9 length 0.4234 6/5 length 0.8426
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 19, 26, 45, 46, 53, 72, 118, 190, 315e, 361e, 433de, 623cdee }}
Angle(10/9, 6/5) = 84.126 degrees
Map to lattice: [&lt;0 -1 -2 -3 -2 -7|, &lt;0 -1 -2 1 1 1|] 


Map: [&lt;2 0 0 2 5 -3|, &lt;0 1 0 7 5 15|, &lt;0 0 1 -4 -3 -8|]
[[Badness]]: 0.721 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
Generators: 99/70, 3, 5
Edos: 26, 46, 72, 178, 224, 270, 494


====Rym====
=== 13-limit ===
Commas: 4375/4374, 3025/3024, 4096/4095
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


===Tyr===
Comma list: 169/168, 325/324, 385/384
Commas: 4375/4374, 131072/130977


===Veur===
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 1 6 2 | 0 1 0 7 -6 4 | 0 0 1 -4 3 -2 }}
Commas: 4375/4374, 100663296/100656875


===Veod===
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 19, 26, 46, 53, 72, 118f, 125f, 171ef, 190ff, 197ef, 243eff }}
Commas: 4375/4374, 2097152/2096325</pre></div>
 
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Badness: 0.840 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
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&lt;br /&gt;
== Ulmo ==
7-limit minimax&lt;br /&gt;
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
[|1 0 0 0&amp;gt;, |-1/7 0 4/7 1/7&amp;gt;, &lt;br /&gt;
 
|0 0 1 0&amp;gt;, |0 0 0 1&amp;gt;]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Comma list]]: 176/175, 2200/2187
Eigenmonzos: 2, 5, 7&lt;br /&gt;
 
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 1 -3 | 0 1 0 7 7 | 0 0 1 -4 -2 }}
9-limit minimax&lt;br /&gt;
 
||1 0 0 0&amp;gt;, |0 1 0 0&amp;gt;, &lt;br /&gt;
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 39, 46, 53, 80, 126, 179, 259cd, 385bcd }}
|1/5 7/5 1/5 -1/5&amp;gt;, |1/5 7/5 -4/5 4/5&amp;gt;]&lt;br /&gt;
 
Eigenmonzos: 2, 3, 7/5&lt;br /&gt;
[[Badness]]: 1.23 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
&lt;br /&gt;
 
Map: [&amp;lt;1 0 0 1|, &amp;lt;0 1 0 7|, &amp;lt;0 0 1 -4|]&lt;br /&gt;
=== 13-limit ===
Generators: 2, 3, 5&lt;br /&gt;
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Edos: 7, 19, 26, 27, 45, 46, 53, 65, 72, 80, 91, 99, 171, 270, 441, 612, 935, 1106, 1277, 1376, 1547, 1718, 1889, 2923, 3166, 3436, 3877, 3535, 4390, 5496, 5937, 6450, 9058&lt;br /&gt;
 
&lt;br /&gt;
Comma list: 169/168, 176/175, 325/324
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&lt;br /&gt;
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 1 -3 2 | 0 1 0 7 7 4 | 0 0 1 -4 -2 -2 }}
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Commas: 4375/4374, 3025/3024&lt;br /&gt;
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 39, 46, 53, 80, 133d, 179, 312cdf }}
&lt;br /&gt;
 
Minimax tuning&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.932 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
[|1 0 0 0 0&amp;gt;, |3/4 0 1/2 1/2 -1/2&amp;gt;, &lt;br /&gt;
 
|25/16 0 7/8 5/8 -7/8&amp;gt;, |0 0 0 1 0&amp;gt;, &lt;br /&gt;
== Thor ==
|25/16 0 -1/8 5/8 1/8&amp;gt;]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
Eigenmonzos: 2, 11/10, 8/7&lt;br /&gt;
 
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Comma list]]: 3025/3024, 4375/4374
Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 0 2 5|, &amp;lt;0 1 0 7 5|, &amp;lt;0 0 1 -4 -3|]&lt;br /&gt;
 
Generators: 99/70, 3, 5&lt;br /&gt;
{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 0 0 2 5 | 0 1 0 7 5 | 0 0 1 -4 -3 }}
&lt;br /&gt;
 
13-limit&lt;br /&gt;
: mapping generators: ~99/70, ~3, ~5
&lt;br /&gt;
 
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[[Minimax tuning]]:
Commas: 4375/4374, 3025/3024, 4225/4224&lt;br /&gt;
* [[11-odd-limit]] [[Eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.7.11/5
&lt;br /&gt;
 
13-limit&lt;br /&gt;
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 26, 34d, 46, 72, 118, 152, 224, 270, 342, 494, 612, 836, 1106, 1448, 2554, 4002e, 5720e, 7168cee }}
||1 0 0 0 0 0&amp;gt;, |3/4 0 1/2 1/2 -1/2 0&amp;gt;, &lt;br /&gt;
 
|25/16 0 7/8 5/8 -7/8 0&amp;gt;, |0 0 0 1 0 0&amp;gt;, &lt;br /&gt;
[[Badness]]: 0.0888 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
|25/16 0 -1/8 5/8 1/8 0&amp;gt;, &lt;br /&gt;
 
|99/32 0 -11/16 -1/16 11/16 0&amp;gt;]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Projection pair]]s: 2 = ~9801/4900, ~7 = ~21434787/3062500, ~11 = ~2310905821257/210087500000 to 3.5.14/11
Eigenmonzos: 2, 11/10, 8/7&lt;br /&gt;
 
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Thunor ===
15-limit minimax&lt;br /&gt;
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
[|1 0 0 0 0 0&amp;gt;, |1/2 1/3 1/3 1/3 -1/3 0&amp;gt;, &lt;br /&gt;
 
|9/8 7/12 7/12 1/3 -7/12 0&amp;gt;, |0 0 0 1 0 0&amp;gt;, &lt;br /&gt;
Comma list: 1716/1715, 2080/2079, 3025/3024
|13/8 -1/12 -1/12 2/3 1/12 0&amp;gt;, &lt;br /&gt;
 
|55/16 -11/24 -11/24 1/6 11/24 0&amp;gt;]&lt;br /&gt;
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 0 2 5 -3 | 0 1 0 7 5 15 | 0 0 1 -4 -3 -8 }}
Eigenmonzos: 2, 8/7, 15/11&lt;br /&gt;
 
&lt;br /&gt;
Mapping to lattice: [{{val| 0 -1 -2 -3 -2 -7 }}, {{val| 0 -1 -2 1 1 1 }}] 
Lattice basis: 44/39 length = 0.3480 6/5 length = 0.7828&lt;br /&gt;
 
Angle(44/39, 6/5) = 85.3977&lt;br /&gt;
Lattice basis:
Map to lattice: [&amp;lt;0 2 2 6 4 1|, &amp;lt;0 -1 -2 1 1 2|]&lt;br /&gt;
: 10/9 length = 0.4234, 6/5 length = 0.8426
&lt;br /&gt;
: Angle (10/9, 6/5) = 84.126°
Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 1 -2 2 7|, &amp;lt;0 1 0 7 5 3|, &amp;lt;0 0 2 -8 -6 -5|]&lt;br /&gt;
 
Generators: 99/70, 3, 220/117&lt;br /&gt;
Minimax tuning:
Edos: 46, 80, 92, 126, 144, 178, 190, 224, 494, 684, 954, 1178, 1942, 3120, 3390&lt;br /&gt;
* 13- and 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/7.13
&lt;br /&gt;
 
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{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 26, 46, 72, 152f, 198, 224, 270, 494, 764, 1258 }}
Commas: 4375/4374, 3025/3024, 1716/1715&lt;br /&gt;
 
&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.341 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
13 and 15 limit minimax&lt;br /&gt;
 
[|1 0 0 0 0 0&amp;gt;, |7/10 4/5 0 -2/5 0 1/5&amp;gt;, &lt;br /&gt;
=== Rym ===
|9/8 3/2 0 -3/4 0 1/4&amp;gt;, |7/5 -2/5 0 1/5 0 2/5&amp;gt;, |21/8 -1/2 0 1/4 0 1/4&amp;gt;, |0 0 0 0 0 1&amp;gt;]&lt;br /&gt;
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Eigenmonzos: 2, 16/13, 9/7&lt;br /&gt;
 
&lt;br /&gt;
Comma list: 3025/3024, 4096/4095, 4375/4374
Lattice basis: 10/9 length 0.4234 6/5 length 0.8426&lt;br /&gt;
 
Angle(10/9, 6/5) = 84.126 degrees&lt;br /&gt;
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 0 2 5 22 | 0 1 0 7 5 -9 | 0 0 1 -4 -3 3 }}
Map to lattice: [&amp;lt;0 -1 -2 -3 -2 -7|, &amp;lt;0 -1 -2 1 1 1|]  &lt;br /&gt;
 
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 46, 72f, 106, 118, 152, 224, 270, 494, 764, 1106, 1376, 1870 }}
Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 0 2 5 -3|, &amp;lt;0 1 0 7 5 15|, &amp;lt;0 0 1 -4 -3 -8|]&lt;br /&gt;
 
Generators: 99/70, 3, 5&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.549 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
Edos: 26, 46, 72, 178, 224, 270, 494&lt;br /&gt;
 
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Donar ===
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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Commas: 4375/4374, 3025/3024, 4096/4095&lt;br /&gt;
 
&lt;br /&gt;
Comma list: 3025/3024, 4225/4224, 4375/4374
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:10:&amp;lt;h3&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h3 id="toc5"&gt;&lt;a name="x-11 limit children-Tyr"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:10 --&gt;Tyr&lt;/h3&gt;
 
Commas: 4375/4374, 131072/130977&lt;br /&gt;
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 1 -2 2 7 | 0 1 0 7 5 3 | 0 0 2 -8 -6 -5 }}
&lt;br /&gt;
 
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:12:&amp;lt;h3&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h3 id="toc6"&gt;&lt;a name="x-11 limit children-Veur"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:12 --&gt;Veur&lt;/h3&gt;
: mapping generators: ~99/70, ~3, ~220/117
Commas: 4375/4374, 100663296/100656875&lt;br /&gt;
 
&lt;br /&gt;
Mapping to lattice: [{{val| 0 2 2 6 4 1 }}, {{val| 0 -1 -2 1 1 2 }}]
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:14:&amp;lt;h3&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h3 id="toc7"&gt;&lt;a name="x-11 limit children-Veod"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:14 --&gt;Veod&lt;/h3&gt;
 
Commas: 4375/4374, 2097152/2096325&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
Lattice basis:
: 44/39 length = 0.3480, 6/5 length = 0.7828
: Angle (44/39, 6/5) = 85.3977°
 
Minimax tuning:
* 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.7.11/5
* 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.7.15/11
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 34d, 46, 80, 144, 178, 190, 224, 494, 684, 764, 954, 1178, 1448, 6970ceeff, 8418ceeff }}
 
Badness: 0.322 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
 
Scales: [[Donar46]]
 
== Heimdall ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
 
[[Comma list]]: 4375/4374, 117649/117612
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 1 2 | 0 2 0 14 37 | 0 0 1 -4 -12 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~2, ~343/198, ~5
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 72, 198, 270, 342, 612, 954, 1205, 1475, 1547, 1817, 2159, 4660, 4930, 6819, 7089, 9590d, 11749d }}
 
== Bragi ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
 
[[Comma list]]: 4375/4374, 2097152/2096325
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 2 -7 8 | 0 1 0 7 -3 | 0 0 3 -12 2 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~320/297
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 46, 111d, 159d, 178, 205, 224, 270, 494, 764, 1053, 1277, 1323, 1547, 1817, 4128, 10073bdee, 14201bdeee }}
 
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 2080/2079, 4375/4374, 10985/10976
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 2 -7 8 -6 | 0 1 0 7 -3 7 | 0 0 3 -12 2 -13 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 46, 111df, 159df, 178, 205, 224, 270, 494, 764, 1258, 1771, 2041f, 2265, 2535f }}
 
== Vidar ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
 
[[Comma list]]: 4375/4374, 100663296/100656875
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 1 5 | 0 1 4 -9 -3 | 0 0 -5 20 4 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~96/55
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 46, 91, 133d, 137d, 178, 224, 270, 494, 764, 1395, 1619, 1665, 1889, 2159, 2653, 4812, 7735, 9894 }}
 
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 4225/4224, 4375/4374, 6656/6655
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 1 5 6 | 0 1 4 -9 -3 -5 | 0 0 -5 20 4 7 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 46, 87d, 91, 133d, 137d, 178, 224, 270, 494, 764, 1125, 1395, 1619, 1665, 1889, 4048, 4542, 6431f }}
 
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